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    Brake pads for the RS5

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    So I'm in need for brake pads for the RS. I need something that will be good on the street and track. Suggestions? I was suggested Stoptech 309's as a replacement. Along with R8 V10 (2012+) for the front and A6/S6 for the rears.

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    Since its just you and me, here's what I've found so far:

    for track only, Pagid RS29's are awesome pads. But they are expensive. About 500$ for the fronts
    For track, carbotech XP8's are good as well. About 260$ for the front. I spoke with carbotech and they said they will be ok for street, but will be noisy and quite dusty. The stock rs5 pads are pretty dusty anyways. They will take a bit to warm up to be effective. I've heard from a vendor (not carbotech) that the xp8's would not be suitable for a heavier car like ours and we should go with XP12.
    Also heard the stoptech 309's are comparable to stock, but are also 260$ for the front.

    So i'm in the middle right now. Leaning towards the XP8's. Deal with dust + noise (and no brake pad sensor). Give more pedal when driving first thing in the morning (to warm it up). Since I'm in cali, it doesnt get that cold either.

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    Although my RS5 had ceramics, I used EBC Redstuff on the rears for clean wheels.
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    For the fronts, I am running RS29's on the track and Axxis XBG's on the street. You'll be hard-pressed to find pads that work well in both conditions.

    The RS29's are perfect for the track, but noisy and dusty - not to mention expensive. You don't want to burn through them on the street. The XBG's are cheap (~$100), low-dusting, no-squeal and come with a wear sensor.

    For the rear I use plain OEM pads, although brakes are identical with the ones from the A6/A7/S6/S7. You should be able to use the same aftermarket pads.
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    Andre, yup. I've bought the RS29's. I might not swap them out for laguna, but I will be carrying them :) Maybe you can teach me how to change them? :) My stock pads still have more than 50%. Getting the brake fluid flushed and replaced with Motul and brakes bled.

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    Reviving an old thread. Any more info on successful track brake pad setups? I have been looking at Carbotech front pads (trying to choose which one) and stock rears for now. The first set of stock fronts lasted 40 min on track for me. I usually track a different, lighter car but it was in the shop so I figured the stock setup would be good for one day... not so much.

    Does Pagid or Carbotech come with a brake pad sensor? If not how do you deal with the sensor without soldering etc.? EBC yellow comes with a sensor I think; can they handle 2.5 hours on track?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS5 Ruminator View Post
    Reviving an old thread. Any more info on successful track brake pad setups? I have been looking at Carbotech front pads (trying to choose which one) and stock rears for now. The first set of stock fronts lasted 40 min on track for me. I usually track a different, lighter car but it was in the shop so I figured the stock setup would be good for one day... not so much.

    Does Pagid or Carbotech come with a brake pad sensor? If not how do you deal with the sensor without soldering etc.? EBC yellow comes with a sensor I think; can they handle 2.5 hours on track?
    I tried porterfield, they came with the sensor, but only lasted one track day.
    I am now installing ecs front rotors with carbotech xps10. Rears I am staying OEM rotor but carbotech xps8 pad.

    Carbotech had no sensor but you can tie them together and bypass so the alarm is not on. That's where I'm headed. If ur tracking the car, the heat is too high for the stairs anyway and they melt

    My other two car is lighter too, so I hear ya. But the handling of the rs5 is awesome for the size and the linear v8 power matched to the dct is of the charts at high speed. Shifting 2-3-4 is lightning fast with no unsettling of the car.
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    Let me know how the ECS rotors work out. I just replaced all 4 rotors with stock ones again.

    I agree on the by-pass of the sensor. The Pagid's don't come with sensors either and when you're doing 4-5 track weekends a year, you don't really need the sensors since you're swapping pads before / after every event.

    I heard you might need to go higher on the carbotech due to the weight of the car (for the fronts at least).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfw007 View Post
    I tried porterfield, they came with the sensor, but only lasted one track day.
    I am now installing ecs front rotors with carbotech xps10. Rears I am staying OEM rotor but carbotech xps8 pad.

    Carbotech had no sensor but you can tie them together and bypass so the alarm is not on. That's where I'm headed. If ur tracking the car, the heat is too high for the stairs anyway and they melt

    My other two car is lighter too, so I hear ya. Butt to have t the handling of the rs5 is awesome for the size and the linear v8 power matched to the dct is of the charts at high speed. Shifting 2-3-4 is lightning fast with no unsettling of the car.
    My plan was to leave XP8s on the rears and switch the fronts to XP12s for the track, then back to 1521s for the street in front, trying not to have to get out the VAGCOM and take the caliper off every time I want to switch to a track setup. Do you switch all 4 corners every time? I would consider leaving the XP8s on in the rear if they are not too obnoxious.

    I am not in need of new rotors yet, so Carbotech may have to wait unless I can find a place to have the rotors turned. Have you tried Hawk DTC 70s? I was thinking of leaving their most aggressive street/track pad on in the rear (HP Plus?) and leaving them on, and switching to DTC 70s for the track and back to a street pad in front...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS5 Ruminator View Post
    My plan was to leave XP8s on the rears and switch the fronts to XP12s for the track, then back to 1521s for the street in front, trying not to have to get out the VAGCOM and take the caliper off every time I want to switch to a track setup. Do you switch all 4 corners every time? I would consider leaving the XP8s on in the rear if they are not too obnoxious.

    I am not in need of new rotors yet, so Carbotech may have to wait unless I can find a place to have the rotors turned. Have you tried Hawk DTC 70s? I was thinking of leaving their most aggressive street/track pad on in the rear (HP Plus?) and leaving them on, and switching to DTC 70s for the track and back to a street pad in front...
    I am going to try to leave the carbotech on for street and track. I know the 8s will be ok and am hoping the 10 is ok, not too loud. I don't care about dust. If the 10s cannot be street driven or suck at the track I will move to 12 on track and 1521 daily.

    ECS tuning who made the front rotors liked the hawks. I decided to go a different route. I think marz was running carbotech and I run them on my Aston vantage. Will let you know what I think next week.
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    How did you know the rotors were done? Cracks? Minimum thickness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS5 Ruminator View Post
    How did you know the rotors were done? Cracks? Minimum thickness?
    I took them to my after market shop, which happens to be our local Ferrari dealer, and they checked them for me. You can also visibly see grooves on the edges of the rotors which are deep, meaning the pads have dug into the rotors too far to be turned. No cracks and yes the minimum thickness is breached. I will try to take a pic in the sunlight of the edge groove so you can see what I mean.
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    Does anyone know the compound type of the oem rs5 Pads? Is it ceramic, organic, Metallic? Operating temp Range?
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    This thread has been quiet for a while, but I feel the question is still open: What are good aftermarket street-driving pads for a RS5 with the steel scalope-edged disks? I've even been asking the manufacturers and they seem stumped. Any help would be very much appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrtthx View Post
    This thread has been quiet for a while, but I feel the question is still open: What are good aftermarket street-driving pads for a RS5 with the steel scalope-edged disks? I've even been asking the manufacturers and they seem stumped. Any help would be very much appreciated!
    Hawk pads seem to be preferred around here. I just run my track pads on the street :o

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    That's supposed to be tough on the rotors. Do you happen to know the part numbers (front and rear?)

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    Carbotech 1521 compound for street (all four corners), Carbotech XP24 front/XP12 rear for track.
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    Fantastic. Thanks for the info.

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    Just got my Centric Posi pads. Great work from Dave at Zeckhausen Racing who just sent me the correct pads for the rears - when I read the instructions that were posted online about how there is a sensor for the rear and one needs a cut out for the senor to go.

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    Ordered the Carbotech pads today. Manufacturer direct. They seemed very knowledgable and service-oriented. Didn't have the rears in stock but will custom manufacture in about 4 days.

    Next question: anybody have a feel for how much life they are getting out of their (iron) RS5 rotors? At 21k on the odo I'm trying to anticipate if I'm going to be stuck for that bill as well as the pads. (no track time on my car... yet)

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    I have run stoptech 309s (street performance) for several years...

    Modest reduction in dust but they are linear and highly heat tolerant, which allows them to survive the occaisional track duty without disintegrating.

    On the street, they have proven to be consistent and quiet as well. My choice as Im to lazy to change pads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adbender View Post
    I have run stoptech 309s (street performance) for several years...

    Modest reduction in dust but they are linear and highly heat tolerant, which allows them to survive the occaisional track duty without disintegrating.

    On the street, they have proven to be consistent and quiet as well. My choice as Im to lazy to change pads.
    Did they come with sensors?

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    We have some pad options available: https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catal...e+Pads&x=0&y=0

    We also have some performance rotor options: https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catal...Rotors&x=0&y=0

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    If I remember correctly, one of the other benefits of the Carbotechs is you do not have to scrub the rotors to remove the bed-in layer when switching pad sets going from street to track and vice versa.

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    Can anyone give me the p/n for the Axxis XBG front brake pads for the RS5 and a good place to buy them?
    Thanks. (Have found byuing brake parts for the RS5 is more complicated and difficult than just about any car!)

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    Thank you.


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    Never thought it would be so dffcult to buy a set of front brake pads for my 2014 RS5 (steeel rotors) ! Looking for a strictly street pad with wear sensor connector, have talked to Axxis, Zuckhausen and Europarts amd NO ONE could help me. Does any one here have an exact P/N for a street Centric or Axxis front pad set with wear sensor connector? Thanks in advance !

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    Lots of manufacturers make pads for the RS5, just not Axxis. Ferodo, Akebono, Stoptech, Hawk, Porterfield, Carbotech, Ferodo, Centric, EBC, Girodisc, etc...those are the ones I can name off the top of my head.

    Centric is 100.10290

    Note, the standard iron rotor pads are identical for several models including; 08-17 R8, 07-09 RS4, 03-04 RS6, 13-15 RS5, LAMBORGHINI: 03-05 Gallardo and the new R

    Links to other Manufacturer search portals where you can look up brake pad part numbers

    Akebono- http://showmetheparts.com/akebono/
    Hawk- http://www.hawkperformance.com/parts-search
    Stoptech- http://www.stoptech.com/
    Porterfield- http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/search.php
    Carbotech- http://www.ctbrakes.com/pads.asp
    Centric- http://www.centricparts.com
    Girodisc- http://www.girodisc.com/Pads_c_1150.html
    Project Mu- http://www.project-mu.co.jp/usa/matching.html (European parts under construction at this time)
    Ferodo- http://www.ferodo.com/catalogue.html...e&brand_id=876
    EBC- https://ebcbrakes.com/Assets/ecatalo...2016.html#p=26
    Powerstop- https://www.powerstop.com/products/#...20Iron%20Discs
    Pagid- http://www.pagidracing.com/en/produc...s/vehicle.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandros View Post
    Never thought it would be so dffcult to buy a set of front brake pads for my 2014 RS5 (steeel rotors) ! Looking for a strictly street pad with wear sensor connector, have talked to Axxis, Zuckhausen and Europarts amd NO ONE could help me. Does any one here have an exact P/N for a street Centric or Axxis front pad set with wear sensor connector? Thanks in advance !
    This is what I put on my RS5 from Zeckhausen.com

    Posi Quiet Ceramic brake pads - front (D1029) [1 box required] 8 pad set, wear sensors on 2 pads Centric 63-105-1029

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    That is exactly what I decided to buy. I called them twice including a more recent call and left them a message to call back as they instructed. Still haven't heard back from them. How long ago was your purchase?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reggie View Post
    This is what I put on my RS5 from Zeckhausen.com

    Posi Quiet Ceramic brake pads - front (D1029) [1 box required] 8 pad set, wear sensors on 2 pads Centric 63-105-1029

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    July of 015. Right after I got the car

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    Finally got a call back yesterday from Dave at Zeckhausen. Very helpful and well informed guy. Ordered the pads and drop shipped today at my house with regular UPS freight. Great service. Hopefully installation (by me) tomorrow will be straight forward. (Any tricks I should know about?). Thanks to all who helped on this thread.
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    Did you download the service manual for brake maintenance?
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    No, I did not. Where can I find it?
    Wheel off but I cant see any wear sensor wire coming out of the caliper. Which pad position is the one with the sensor? Upper or lower, inboard or outboard?
    Thanks

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    Go here: https://erwin.audi.com/erwin/showHome.do

    Sign up for an account (it's free). Directions on how to use here: https://erwin.audi.com/erwin/showHome.do

    If I remember correctly, for a 24 hour pass, it's $39 and you can download each and every workshop manual specific to your car. I can't remember how many there are total but there are separate ones for everything from maintenance, to suspension, transmission, engine, brakes, electronics, etc...They're all in PDF form and you can use them offline. I just store them all in a folder on my laptop's desktop. I'll print them out if needed but I usually just pop the laptop open in the garage.
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    Thank you very much. i will purchase and download. In the meantime, do you remember which pad position has the wear sensor wire?
    Must add, I have the passengerside front wheel off and I cant see any sensor wire. Is the sensor only on the driverís side?
    Thanks

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    I donít! Iíve never replaced the pads on mine. I also have the ceramic setup so itís different on my car.
    2013 Audi RS5 Misano Red, 20x10 Klassen ID M10/JHM Stage 1 ECU Tune/AWE Tuning Touring Exhaust/Eventuri Intake/Bilstein PSS10/H&R Sways/STERN Upper Control Arms/CR-15 reinforcement bar/ECS Stainless Steel Brake Lines/Apikol Rear Diff Bushing/ECS rear diff inserts/ECS front end links/034 Motorsports subframe inserts/034 Rear End Links/Tranny insert/E-code head & tail lights/Black Lip Spoiler, Red Trim Start Button, black emblems/VCDS.

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    Active Member Two Rings
    Join Date
    Jul 29 2015
    AZ Member #
    345768
    Location
    Anaheim, California

    Thanks anyway! I was just told the sensor is on the drivers side front.

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