RS7 0 to 60 times vs RS5..

[woodranch]

I recently saw that the new RS7 0 to 60 times will be about 3.9 sec vs 4.5 for the RS5. Do you think they make the RS7 faster because it will be more expensive and more money means a faster car? I am a little surprised that there is that big of a difference.I don't think a M6 or M5 is that much faster then the M3 unless I am mistaken.Any thoughts?

[svirk2]

Since the s8 is running under 4 secs, I won't be surprised if rs7 is running a sub 3.5. Also the rs5 has no torque compared to the tt v8.
I don't think Audi cares about their coupes being slower than their sedans

[Vixcan]

Since the s8 is running under 4 secs, I won't be surprised if rs7 is running a sub 3.5. Also the rs5 has no torque compared to the tt v8.
I don't think Audi cares about their coupes being slower than their sedans

+1

It makes me sad . But at this point, if the RS7 is really running sub 3.5's its faster than the R8 and already faster than the R8 V8 ...... Although if RS5's were to get a twin turbo or super chargers.............

[13S4]

I recently saw that the new RS7 0 to 60 times will be about 3.9 sec vs 4.5 for the RS5. Do you think they make the RS7 faster because it will be more expensive and more money means a faster car? I am a little surprised that there is that big of a difference.I don't think a M6 or M5 is that much faster then the M3 unless I am mistaken.Any thoughts?

You can really use magazine times like that. They are different drivers, different conditions, different techniques, roll out etc... The RS7 has the same engine as the S8 which as mentioned above is extremely fast. The RS7 should be lighter, and possibly tuned differently. If the S8 puts down close around 480hp to the wheels, the RS7 should break 500. The RS5 isn't even close to that, but it's also not even close to the price of an RS7.

I personally would rather have an RS5 and S4 since they are the same cost as the RS7.

[YelloJello]

You are comparing older tech to newer tech. Just wait for the next RS5. B8 and B8.5 chassis don't even have the newer "Audi Lightweight Technology" yet. B9 will be stronger and lighter... hopefully.

[Gspothit]

I've also heard about the S6 and the TT-RS taking only 3.9sec to 60mph before it went on sale and now it's more like 4.5sec so I am guessing the RS models are tight in their times, 4.5sec for all RS just like the S4, S5, S6 and S8 did at 4.9sec.

[Gspothit]

You can really use magazine times like that. They are different drivers, different conditions, different techniques, roll out etc... The RS7 has the same engine as the S8 which as mentioned above is extremely fast. The RS7 should be lighter, and possibly tuned differently. If the S8 puts down close around 480hp to the wheels, the RS7 should break 500. The RS5 isn't even close to that, but it's also not even close to the price of an RS7.

I personally would rather have an RS5 and S4 since they are the same cost as the RS7.

480hp to the wheels?? How about the 5.2 V10 in comparison??

[13S4]

480hp to the wheels?? How about the 5.2 V10 in comparison??

Look at this video @ 5:15.



RS7 Is rated higher (and should be) than the S8.

[GSS5]

0-60 times are stupid..imo.

[DinB]

Forget the RS5. RS5 is very fast for the money. Audi needs to improve the R8 times.

[mxrz]

0-60 times are stupid..imo.

It's for the armchair experts and their online discussions.

[Okan509]

you know what's fast for the money - MS3

[bknewtype]

It's for the armchair experts and their online discussions.

more like its for making retards on forums argue about it

[Gspothit]

Look at this video @ 5:15.



RS7 Is rated higher (and should be) than the S8.

DAMN!! wish S8 was less uglier, retarded headlamps design

[ad2330]

0-60 times are stupid..imo.

I would typically agree if you were talking about a tenth or two, but six tenths is quite a bump. Obviously TT V8 is why, and it just further strengthens the arguments against the 4.2 in the RS5. It was desperately begging for some forced induction and Audi botched it.

[IinsureU]

Forget the RS5. RS5 is very fast for the money. Audi needs to improve the R8 times.

AND, hasn't it been said many times that the 0-60 times for the RS5 and maybe Audi's in general are "understated" ??

[yas]

0-60 doesn't mean much. Trap times and lap times (on a course that actually has turns) are what really matter. Regardless, the 7s are in a different price range, so it makes sense that they're faster.

Personal opinion: Audi had to put a beast of an engine in the RS 7 to make the ugly child feel welcome around the RS 5s beauty. ;)

[yas]

AND, hasn't it been said many times that the 0-60 times for the RS5 and maybe Audi's in general are "understated" ??

All of Audis 0-60 times are understated. The RS 7 could easily do sub 3.5.

[mxrz]

further strengthens the arguments against the 4.2 in the RS5. It was desperately begging for some forced induction and Audi botched it.

You proved his point.

[M3_WC]

What is the redline on the RS7?

Edit: Nevermind just found it. 6,700 rpm...ehhh not exactly exciting.

[M3_WC]

I would typically agree if you were talking about a tenth or two, but six tenths is quite a bump. Obviously TT V8 is why, and it just further strengthens the arguments against the 4.2 in the RS5. It was desperately begging for some forced induction and Audi botched it.

Once the German brands figure out how to spin these TT engines past 8,000 rpm's reliably. Then I will be interested.

[superswiss]

Once the German brands figure out how to spin these TT engines past 8,000 rpm's reliably. Then I will be interested.

That and a dual-clutch that can handle the torque.

[svirk2]

Once the German brands figure out how to spin these TT engines past 8,000 rpm's reliably. Then I will be interested.

Im not a fan of high revving engines. You always have to be in the right gear at the right time and have no power under 6k. Torque is so much better, engine has power at any moment. Unless you go to the track everyday, 8k is annoying for everyday driving

[superswiss]

Im not a fan of high revving engines. You always have to be in the right gear at the right time and have no power under 6k. Torque is so much better, engine has power at any moment. Unless you go to the track everyday, 8k is annoying for everyday driving

It's a matter of preference and driving style. BTW, the RS5 develops full torque at 4k. You must be thinking of the outgoing RS4. I'm not a fan of FI engines. Turbo lag, slow throttle response and runs out of puff at the top end. I prefer an engine that pulls linearly all the way to redline. Here's how I see the 0-60 between the RS7 and RS5. Fitted with a slushbox and obligatory turbo lag, the RS7 needs the low end torque to get off the ground and make enough headway before it runs out of puff and needs to shift. The RS5 on the other hand says screw low end torque and takes off screaming at 5k and pulls all the way to redline where it shifts in a blink of a second to the already selected 2nd gear w/o loosing pull. To me the latter just sounds like so much more fun, but to each their own. Nobody buys these cars to toil around town, but to have fun driving after all.

[Marshall_Placid]

Look at this video @ 5:15.



RS7 Is rated higher (and should be) than the S8.

AHA!

I love when the editor points out, with proof (mind you), that BMW OVERSTATED their specs while Audi understated their specs.

That is good news for all Audi drivers out there while making BMW drivers look bad from buying "overstated-spec" cars.

And, also, the editor pointed out that the AWD's "differential" (or something akin to that) actually has more HP than stated, than the BMW's RWD.

[AZ Audi]

For daily fun, I think the RS5 will still be more fun to drive than the RS7, but the RS7 will no doubt be faster, at least in a straight line, even considering the slush box. I am guessing the magazines test the RS7 at 3.1 to 3.3 seconds. They tested the RS5 sub 4 seconds. The RS5 will be one of the last affordable (relative) none turbo/supercharger motor. Enjoy it while it lasts. You can't beat the fun and the looks.

[13S4]

It's a matter of preference and driving style. BTW, the RS5 develops full torque at 4k. You must be thinking of the outgoing RS4. I'm not a fan of FI engines. Turbo lag, slow throttle response and runs out of puff at the top end. I prefer an engine that pulls linearly all the way to redline. Here's how I see the 0-60 between the RS7 and RS5. Fitted with a slushbox and obligatory turbo lag, the RS7 needs the low end torque to get off the ground and make enough headway before it runs out of puff and needs to shift. The RS5 on the other hand says screw low end torque and takes off screaming at 5k and pulls all the way to redline where it shifts in a blink of a second to the already selected 2nd gear w/o loosing pull. To me the latter just sounds like so much more fun, but to each their own. Nobody buys these cars to toil around town, but to have fun driving after all.

I do understand what you are saying, but I'm sure the transmission paired with it isn't an average slush box. It's still a 2013 RS car which is not an A7 with an upgraded supercharger.

[Gspothit]

RS7, S8, future RS6, RS4... 3seconds range is GTR territory - Hurray! Audi

[Eurotuned_A4]

It's not only about 0-60 times. Technology advances and cars get better. This doesnt change the fact that the rs5 is an amazing machine and incredible looking car(someone please buy me one!).

[CyberS5]

I agree with this. In fact, I'll go for the S7, which hits 3.9 - 4.0 from 0-60mph and 12.5 sec at 1/4 mile and has good torque at 1500 RPM,
and can shut down the some valves for better mileage for highway cruising. 4.0 at 0-60 and 12.5 at 1/4 is similar to the R8 4.2 numbers, but at least you can seat 4 people in the S7 and it also has a big trunk space.

Im not a fan of high revving engines. You always have to be in the right gear at the right time and have no power under 6k. Torque is so much better, engine has power at any moment. Unless you go to the track everyday, 8k is annoying for everyday driving

[IinsureU]

I agree with this. In fact, I'll go for the S7, which hits 3.9 - 4.0 from 0-60mph and 12.5 sec at 1/4 mile and has good torque at 1500 RPM,
and can shut down the some valves for better mileage for highway cruising. 4.0 at 0-60 and 12.5 at 1/4 is similar to the R8 4.2 numbers, but at least you can seat 4 people in the S7 and it also has a big trunk space.

Yeah, but that S7 is pretty FUGLY no matter how fast or how much low end torque it has...

[13S4]

The 7's are an acquired taste. I thought it looked terrible when I first saw pictures of them, but after seeing one in person I changed my mind.

[ad2330]

It's really a shame we aren't getting the RS6. Million times better than the RS7 IMO. Seems like that's how it always goes though. Damn euros..

[yas]

It's really a shame we aren't getting the RS6. Million times better than the RS7 IMO. Seems like that's how it always goes though. Damn euros..

Totally agree. But it saves me the decision between the 5 and 6

[IinsureU]

It's really a shame we aren't getting the RS6. Million times better than the RS7 IMO. Seems like that's how it always goes though. Damn euros..

Agreed, makes no friggin' sense what so ever !!!

[superswiss]

The 7's are an acquired taste. I thought it looked terrible when I first saw pictures of them, but after seeing one in person I changed my mind.

I'm the exact opposite. I first saw the 7 in Europe, long before it was available in the US. Thought it was a very good looking car until I saw more of them on the road. Now the more I see them the less I like them.

[Marshall_Placid]

I wish the RS7 had more distinctive exterior features.... to differentiate itself from the S7 and the A7.

As it is right now, the RS7 looks very much the same as the S7 and the A7, and the RS7 is at least 2 to 2.5 times more expensive than the A7.

IMO, Audi should have put more distinctive features to differentiate the RS7 from the S7 and the A7.

The cost of the engine and tuning it should not cost 2 times more than a different engine in the A7 or S7.

Audi could have put more into the RS7, adding to the cost.

But, I am presuming that Audi wants a MUCH higher profit margin on the RS7 than on the S7 or A7.

Just my two cents.

[mkhongk]

Audi always posts for their cars similar acceleration times for 0-100km/h and 0-60MPH (compare audi.de and audiusa.com). For the RS5 this is 4.5s. However, 100km/h is 62MPH. Therefore the 0-60 times posted by Audi are conservative. My RS5 engine is just broken in but what I can say so far: it is freakishly fast!