Want to buy B7 with Multitronic need help

[AudiSlineFan]

Hey everyone

I'm new here and have few questions about an audi.
I'm planning to purchase an Audi A4 B7 2005 2.0L Sports Edition with Multitronic gearbox.
Car has 109.000 on odometer.
It says "7 speed automatic"...is it the same as 7 speed constantly variable transmission(Multitronic as well)
If no which one is better?

And I also heard that many people have issues with the Multitronic gearbox, while some say it is very smooth and didn't have any issues.

I really want to buy it but I'm concerned about the transmission.

Price of car: $16,700
Is it worth buying it?


Thank you

[LINDW4LL]

I believe the only 7-speed Audi put in the B7 is the multitronic/CVT transmission. I personally would not buy it with the CVT. I prefer manual or a normal automatic personally. I assume the car is FWD?

[AudiSlineFan]

I have never driven CVT but I heard it's pretty smooth but also some people have issues with it.
I would love this car to be normal automatic but unfortunately it is not.
I believe it is FWD.
So you think it is going to be waste of money?
The guy provides full service history and mayor service has been done.
Also comes with RWC.

[CharlesP2009]

I'd strongly encourage getting a 2008 A4 if you're going with the B7. They have several part revisions for better reliability (the cam follower immediately coming to mind). I generally recommend against getting the first year of a new model (which was the 2005.5 for the B7).

As for the CVT, it's a bit different and might take you a little time to get used to. I like my CVT as it works brilliantly on our mountain roads and was a breath of fresh air after 3 GM vehicles with 4-speed automatics. The things were constantly jumping up and down gears on the mountain grades and made for an uncomfortable ride. Der Audi cruises up a mountain silky smooth and never gets huffy like our Accord with 5-speed auto.

The downside, which I don't even notice anymore, is that the CVT takes a short moment to get "wound up" and moving. In normal autos you tend to jump off the line but with the CVT there's a split second where the revs climb but the car barely moves. My passengers never notice but coming off a conventional automatic you might be bothered for a while. Also in rush hour traffic or parking lots the CVT hops a bit when you tap the gas after coasting with your foot off the brake.

I'm not trying to steer you away from the CVT at all, just trying to elaborate on how it's different. Again, I like my CVT and I'm glad I got it. The fuel economy was the main reason I selected it and the brilliant mountain performance is a plus.

[AudiSlineFan]

CharlesP22009 thank you for your review.
Unfortunately I won't be able to get the 2008 model as I do not have enough money, the guy is willing to reduce the price to $15,000.
So how do I know if it's 2005.5? It is same as 2005?
Yes I also have read about the short moment to get "wound up" and move and also a weird jerking problem when going slow.
Yes I also decided to buy it because of fuel economy and the smooth ride.

But I think that I will just buy an Audi A3 with TipTronic gearbox.

Despite I'm really into this Audi model, if I would purchase it, how long you think the car or the CVT would last if I would regulary service the car?

thank you

[CharlesP2009]

If it's the car in the photo it's a 2005.5 B7. Audi also sold the B6 as a 2005 at the end of its production (at least here in the United States).

As far as local pricing in the US, $15,000 is too much for a car with 109,000 miles, but I have no basis for judging the price in Melbourne, someone else should chime in. I trust you've comparison shopped and know the value for your region.

With proper maintenance and sensible driving the CVT should last you a very long time. Audi specifies replacing the CVT fluid every 35-40,000 miles.

The A3 is a fine car but I don't care for wagons AKA Avant AKA estate cars.

Have you looked at the A6? It's generally better equipped, bigger, and a 2004 can usually be found at the same price range as a 2006 A4. (At least around here! )

[80sGuy]

If you've ever come across a clean B7 but with CVT, try getting a 2007 or 2008 year model. Anything under 2005 is trouble, or at least it is reported from the comments here almost daily. Some say that the problem has improved (or rectified) after YM 2005.5-06 but I'd go with at least a 2007, or preferably a 2008 if I were you.
I have a 2008 multitronic CVT as well, and as Charles points out -- so far so good. Maybe I still have very low miles and the fluid was replaced at 27,000 miles, very early indeed because Audi Care was running out as the car ages so I requested it to be done since it was paid for in advance.
As for the car listed, the price seemed to be on the higher side even though miles are average (I assumed in km?) which probably equates to about 68,000 miles for the states. Since he's providing the service history, go through the work order and see if there are any complaints regarding the transmission (I doubt if he'll include that part), also, ask if he's ever replaced the CVT fluid. In all honesty, I'd passed on that price and on that year for the CVT.

[airbornerifleman]

IMO, no non-quarrto Audi is worth buying.

[80sGuy]

^^That depends on where you live. In the cities of L.A., you couldn't drive through anything with six wheels, not to mentioned the higher insurance rates and gas mileage.

[airbornerifleman]

you couldn't drive through anything with six wheels.

Not sure what you mean

[LINDW4LL]

^^That depends on where you live. In the cities of L.A., you couldn't drive through anything with six wheels, not to mentioned the higher insurance rates and gas mileage.

Why would insurance be higher with AWD? I always thought it lowered your insurance...

[datwagn]

Why would insurance be higher with AWD? I always thought it lowered your insurance...

not sure why, but the rates are definitely higher for AWD cars.

Coming from someone whos had both a FWD and Quattro b7 a4, i would strongly recommend you stay away from the FWD. My old sedan was FWD and only had a GIAC chip and exhaust, and even with decent tires i would always spin the wheels off a start. You can't beat quattro.
To me, the whole point of having an audi is for the quattro system, id rather have a bmw than a FWD audi (and i cant stand bmw's)

[CharlesP2009]

not sure why, but the rates are definitely higher for AWD cars.

I can't speak from experience here in Arizona but my guess would be that insurance companies still equate AWD with trucks and SUVs and people doing work or going places that might increase the chance of a claim being made. It's rather the opposite with us (or it's supposed to be anyway) in that the AWD makes for better traction and safety. Unfortunately I've read plenty of cases where a person foolishly charges through the snow or rain at the speed limit or faster because they have AWD and are therefore think themselves impervious to road conditions.

I'd like very much to get a Quattro car in the future, but with the B7 I felt the AWD ate up too much of the fuel economy and defeated the purpose of getting a 4 cylinder. The B8's and latest A6 though have very good economy even with Quattro. And if Audi ever gives us diesel...

[airbornerifleman]

Just get a passat SEL TDI, then.

[AdiDas]

That price seems incredibly high for a car with over a 100k miles and it's a 2005.
And it's not even Quattro.

I personally think you should look around to find a better deal.

Just my $.02


And sorry I just saw that your from Melbourne so ya I don't know but prices but like another mentioned that's way too much for US prices.

[wildcat333]

OP, the price you listed of $16,000, is that in US Dollars?

Edit:
I just realized 1.00 Australian dollar = 1.04 USD

So basically the same for anyone who was interested.

[schmiesus]

Might be like up here. The car I just bought off ryan had a KBB of 12k up here the black book value is 17-18

[wildcat333]

Might be like up here. The car I just bought off ryan had a KBB of 12k up here the black book value is 17-18

ryan worth's car?

[AudiSlineFan]

Thank you guys for all your opinions!

CharlesP22009
Yes it's the car from the photo.
To be honest it is one of the cheapest B7's with this year and mileage, I heard in america the car would be much much cheaper.
I'm not sure if he actually changed the CVT fluid I'm not going to risk I worked too long to gather this amount of money to buy a faulty car.
Yes I did and there are even more expensive, plus I'm 19 and want something more sporty.

80sGuy
That's what CharlesP222009 suggested, I won't buy it.
Audis in Australia seem to be much more expensive comparing to USA.
Yes it is in KM.
Also the car is in other state, I would have to drive 8 hours. I thought so too he wouldn't include anything if there was any trouble with the CVT, I would have to contact the Audi Service Dealer I guess to find out.
Passed you mean you would buy it?

airbornerfleman
The thing is we don't have snow here, most of the cars are FWD.

AdiDas
As I mentioned it is one of the cheapest I found plus it is in other state(NSW), cars the seem to be much cheaper there.

[AudiSlineFan]

For a conclusion, I have resigned to buy the audi, I worked too hard to buy car that will last me few months and then I will have to buy new CVT for $3000 or more. Plus Insurance and registration.

I think I have decided what to get, I know it is not a VW forum, but I found one with resonable price.
Can you guys help me decide if It is a worth buying car thank you.

2006 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1KM MY07 TURBO DSG(6 speed automatic)
Is the DSG gearbox reasonable?

Price: $13,200 *NEGOTIABLE
Odometer: 138,000
Comes with RWC



Also it is turbo (4 cylinder Premium Unleaded Turbo Intercooled 2.0 L (1984cc)
Is it true that over 100.00km the turbo starts to die? Audi, VW, merc etc??

[80sGuy]

80sGuy
...

Passed you mean you would buy it?

...

No, passed as in 'Do Not Buy'.

[CharlesP2009]

As with anything else on a car, the turbo can last a very long time if the car is properly maintained and not abused.

The Jetta is a pretty nice vehicle and the DSG gearbox has it's quirks like the CVT. When you're driving in a manner it can predict the shifts are so smooth you won't even notice them and acceleration is excellent, but if you should have to suddenly change speed or perhaps start climbing a mountain grade the car might take a long moment to shift. I've had very little experience with the DSG so I can't really provide much feedback on it.

If you can wait I'd still suggest an Audi over a VW. VW's are very common here and don't get much attention but I've gotten so many compliments in a few months with the Audi I bet you can find a nice '06 or '07 given some time.

I was often tempted to jump on an A4 that wasn't quite what I wanted but the price was right, or it was the perfect car but the price was a couple grand more than I wanted. I was even tempted to buy a 2009 car with all the bells and whistles but it had been in an accident and frame damage was reported, the price was only $15,000 and the dealership insisted the repairs were done with great care and the car passed a "thorough" inspection! Maybe it's true and the car would have been excellent but with my luck the thing would've fallen apart right after the warranty ran out (I'm looking at you GM!). Too often in my life I've settled or rushed into something and I'll usually end up being unhappy and wish I had it to do all over again. Too bad you're on a giant distant island, seems your selection is much small than we've got in the US. In any case, I encourage to continue your search!

[LINDW4LL]

For a conclusion, I have resigned to buy the audi, I worked too hard to buy car that will last me few months and then I will have to buy new CVT for $3000 or more. Plus Insurance and registration.

I think I have decided what to get, I know it is not a VW forum, but I found one with resonable price.
Can you guys help me decide if It is a worth buying car thank you.

2006 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1KM MY07 TURBO DSG(6 speed automatic)
Is the DSG gearbox reasonable?

Price: $13,200 *NEGOTIABLE
Odometer: 138,000
Comes with RWC



Also it is turbo (4 cylinder Premium Unleaded Turbo Intercooled 2.0 L (1984cc)
Is it true that over 100.00km the turbo starts to die? Audi, VW, merc etc??

The 2.0T in the Jetta is the same as in the A4. The DSG is an awesome transmission. Sporty yet more reliable than a normal torque-converter automatic. I wouldn't worry about the turbo. It has very low miles. I know many people who have 250,000km on their 2.0Ts with no issues whatsoever.

[AudiSlineFan]

CharlesP2009
But I believe and hope that the DSG is more reliable than the CVT.
With driving in the mountain, my parents currently have Holden Cruze 2010 1.8L (not a big fan of the car to be honest)
It has 6 speed Automatic and once we were climbing at the mountain, it also sometimes took a long moment to shift, I believe that
all automatic gearbox have this sort of problem with shifting, I guess manual is the best option but I don't need it here in Melbourne.

Yes I do like Audi better than VW too, but all the Audis come with CVT with this price range and year, if it is QUATTRO with manual or other gearbox, it is usually 2000-2004 that costs 13,000 and more, and has big numbers on the odometer.

So are you warning me that there can be something wrong with the car?
I will ofcourse take my mechanic friend with me.

Yes the prices of European cars are ridiculous here.

You encourage me to wait because you prefer Audi over VW or issues can arise with the gearbox or with the car?

But I decided to wait, I might just go to see the car today.

If nothing reasonable will appear with the Audi I will just get this one I guess.


LINDW4LL
Good to hear that, I was really into Audi but the price ranges are funny here.
I will still let the mechanic take a good look at the car if I won't find any Audi with a reasonable price.

Thank you guys

[LINDW4LL]

Also, the DSG transmission shifts much quicker than a normal automatic which is nice. Regarding the Audi vs VW, the interior on the Audi will be nicer, but other than that they use many of the same parts. Obviously most would prefer the Audi, but if it's out of your price range, there's absolutely nothing wrong with a VW

[AudiSlineFan]

LINDW4LL
I also heard the DSG is quciker.
I agree the Audis interior would be nicer, but I really like the VW as well.

Also last question, usually for the german cars also for this VW, the fuel type is Premium Unleaded Aspirated.

Can I fuel P95 or I need to put the 98 which has higher octanes rate?

[Cantalk]

What are the import laws like in Australia? Could you potentially source one from Japan?

[schmiesus]

ryan worth's car?

Yes sir

[AudiSlineFan]

Cantalk
I'm not quiet sure, I will have to ask around.
I'm really not looking forward importing any cars from overseas, it takes long time and I think I will have to obtain a permit, plus transport, etc (high-cost).

The VW jetta above have Premium Unleaded Aspirated fuel type, accordingly do I need to fuel the P98 with higher octanes or P95? Would using the 95
do any damage to the engine as it will lower the performance of the car?

[AudiSlineFan]

Hey everyone!

I haven't visited the site in the past few weeks, hope everything is going good.

I haven't bought the Jetta, but patiently waited, and two cars came up on the carsales site.

I know that we discussed that the B7 series model A4 2007 and above are better than the previous that showed up.

Despite that, I'm really looking to purchase the Audi 2006 1.8T B7 CVT, whilst there is a manual Audi that is waiting for a new owner.

Can you guys tell me in your experience, is the 1.8T any good? What is the fixed price of the service? I heard to inspect the DSG gearbox in the VW and other by the dealership is around $300.

Also Audi has "Unlimited km warranty", can you tell me what does it cover? Or is it only included in the "3 years car warranty"?

Manual

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...5&sort=default

Automatic

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...5&sort=default


Thanks!

[80sGuy]

Take my advice: do NOT buy the 2006 1.8T CVT! Go back up to post #7 and read the link I posted.

[AudiSlineFan]

80sGuy
Hey, I really appreciate your comment.

The car I believe comes with History Log Book, if there won't appear anything regardless the transmission and he changed the fluid regularly, should I still worry?

The car passed inspection test (RWC).

Also if I would take mechanic would he be able to actually diagnose if the car is in a good condition?

I would sell the car after about 180,000km.

[Ed Gein]

Why get a cvt. They are time bombs. Get a manual and have one less thing to worry about.