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    S4 DSG Problems Log Thread

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    Ok, there's been a flurry of activity here so I figured I'd try to capitalize on documenting problems and solutions. If you have had problems with your car, please post here to document. I am especially interested in replaced mechatronics, transmissions and buybacks. Copy below and replace with your own answers:

    ***Updated 3/1/13***
    Year:
    2012

    Mileage at first sign of problem; Mileage now:
    2K; 15K

    Mods:
    none; bone stock

    Problem:
    Jerky shifting in gears 1-2, especially bad in stop/go traffic. Drove friends S4 and confirmed it does not drive the same way

    In Warranty Still?:
    yes

    Audi Response to complaint:
    #1 - all systems normal
    #2 - suggested checking mechatronics; could not reproduce; called AoA; complained and threatened Lemon Law
    #3 - reflashed, recalibrated, fluid changed
    #3 - reflashed with different software; suggested replacement of mechatronics unit; none in the country

    How Ultimately Resolved:
    Approached AoA to buyback the car and told them I did not want to involve lawyers. They flat out refused. Hired Lemon Law lawyer and they finally agreed to buyback car, without resorting to filing suit.
    Last edited by ChrisF1; 03-01-2013 at 09:47 AM.

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    Year:
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    Mileage at first sign of problem; Mileage now:
    15K; 20K

    Mods:
    none; bone stock

    Problem:
    Jerky shifting in gears 1-2, especially bad in stop/go traffic. Mine was very noticeable once it was warm (over 30min). Another issue was the DSG not knowing what gear to be in. For instance, once while going across an intersection, another car turned right into my lane of traffic in front of me, I didn't break but let off the gas completely. Within 1-2 second I would say I hit the gas again, the S4 rev'ed like it was not in gear to almost 6K rpm, then bam engaged the next gear. This will scare you when happening at a turn with oncoming traffic, believe me.

    In Warranty Still?:
    yes

    Audi Response to complaint:
    #1 - Even though NO errors, went to Audi Chantilly, explained the issues. They were almost done with the test drive when it happened to their tecs. Replaced mechatronics - took almost 3 weeks.
    #2 - Ran great for a week, then got "malfunctioning transmission, but ok to drive error" followed immediately by TPMS error, but pressure was perfect. First error ever received. Took it in, now awaiting Audi approval to replace transmission.

    How Ultimately Resolved:
    Had entire transmission replaced. I've had it back for a week now, seems to be holding up. Jury is still out though........

    Note to AOA:
    Chantilly Audi has been great in handling this issue to date
    Last edited by MinezS4; 12-17-2012 at 06:57 AM.
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    yikes, as someone who would like to step up to an S4 (probably a DSG at that), doesnt sound good.
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    This exact thing has happen to me about 5-7 times. All under various different conditions. I had a mechatronics unit replaced because it acted up. This happened around 15k and im at about 45k now and it has happen between that range. The Revs launching up to hitting red line feels as if the gear has totally slipped or clutch disengaged. It happen to me TWICE making a left turn. I was denied all warranty after they could not solve the problem with Audi Canada, they looked for "MODS" on the car and were able to tell by "EYE BALLING" the pulley that it was a smaller one. Also my mufflers being cut off was another reason. I was told unless the car is back to 100% stock they can not further diagnose it.

    Now I have a sport diff leak which I pointed out earlier on but since I have TD1 code AFTER THE FACT, I am still fighting to have this known concern addressed. It is just a world of work.

    My Concern of the REVS jumping up like that was the First AUDI it self has heard of they all out denied that another car even has come close to doing such things. Then blamed it on the modifications and so forth.

    Quote Originally Posted by MinezS4 View Post
    Year:
    2011

    Mileage at first sign of problem; Mileage now:
    15K; 20K

    Mods:
    none; bone stock

    Problem:
    Jerky shifting in gears 1-2, especially bad in stop/go traffic. Mine was very noticeable once it was warm (over 30min). Another issue was the DSG not knowing what gear to be in. For instance, once while going across an intersection, another car turned right into my lane of traffic in front of me, I didn't break but let off the gas completely. Within 1-2 second I would say I hit the gas again, the S4 rev'ed like it was not in gear to almost 6K rpm, then bam engaged the next gear. This will scare you when happening at a turn with oncoming traffic, believe me.

    In Warranty Still?:
    yes

    Audi Response to complaint:
    #1 - Even though NO errors, went to Audi Chantilly, explained the issues. They were almost done with the test drive when it happened to their tecs. Replaced mechatronics - took almost 3 weeks.
    #2 - Ran great for a week, then got "malfunctioning transmission, but ok to drive error" followed immediately by TPMS error, but pressure was perfect. First error ever received. Took it in, now awaiting Audi approval to replace transmission.

    How Ultimately Resolved:
    Not so far, still waiting....

    Note to AOA:
    Chantilly Audi has been great in handling this issue to date

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    question on limits of normal operation.

    My 2013 has ~1300 miles on it. I notice that on occasion it engages the clutch briskly from a start in 1st. Nothing bad. No high-rev clutch dump, but a noticeable snap with a brisk engagement.

    Coming from an M-DCT, I am used to brisk engagement. Do they all do this? It did not concern me until reading all of the S-tronic failure threads

    thanks in advance
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    They all do it, there is an update and such but more so you have to adapt to the car, they say the car will adapt to driver habits no, I think the driver has to adapt to feathering the throttle to keep it from feeling like gears are crashing recklessly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Brown View Post
    question on limits of normal operation.

    My 2013 has ~1300 miles on it. I notice that on occasion it engages the clutch briskly from a start in 1st. Nothing bad. No high-rev clutch dump, but a noticeable snap with a brisk engagement.

    Coming from an M-DCT, I am used to brisk engagement. Do they all do this? It did not concern me until reading all of the S-tronic failure threads

    thanks in advance
    Sorry to contribute:


    ear:
    2011

    Mileage at first sign of problem; Mileage now:
    15K, now at 45k have had it happen a few times after the mechatronics unit was replaced at 20k

    Mods:
    Exhaust, APR Stage 2 (post problem), Carbonio Intake Back Pipe

    Problem:
    Jerky shifting in gears 1-2, especially bad in stop/go traffic. Another issue was the DSG not knowing what gear to be in. For instance, once while going across an intersection, another car turned right into my lane of traffic in front of me, I didn't break but let off the gas completely. Within 1-2 second I would say I hit the gas again, the S4 rev'ed like it was not in gear to almost 6K rpm, then bam engaged the next gear. This will scare you when happening at a turn with oncoming traffic, believe me. I chose not to re write it but that has happen to me about 6 times. Twice it happen once after another but no codes no nothing was triggered.

    In Warranty Still?:
    Audi Dealership Says TD1 = NO

    Audi Response to complaint:
    #1 - Bring it back no codes
    #2 - Mechatronics finally failed, replaced it
    #3 - Tranny still has issues, Audi of Canada involvement then turned to suggest it was due to the modifications after the fact that they will not continue to look into solving the problem. Suggested a completely stock car if we are continuing diagnosis. Also told that car requires x amount of km's to adapt to driver.
    #4 - I have now brought this and the leaking Sport Diff up again to Audi of Canada with intent to escalate it as high as it needs to go suggesting safety is a concern of DSG drivers as it maybe if these trannys slip out of gear or miss shift as they have been noted to doing to few customers.


    How Ultimately Resolved:
    Not so far, still waiting....

    Note to AOC:
    Dealerships refuse to do any work unless approved. Audi of Canada wants proof of the date the modification was made and that there was a known concern addressed to the dealership prior to the modification to consider revisiting this.


    I see this as being a class action type deal, the few that have experienced this issue need it to be addressed. It is a surprise that someone with NO MODIFICATIONS can have the EXACT same problem as someone who potentially has modification.
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    As I've said in other posts, I think this is a much larger issue than Audi is letting on. If you want to know more, g00gle "audi dsg failure china" and read away the day. IMHO many S4 owners just live with it. Because there is no error message from what I can see for the mechatronics failure, people don't report it. Somehow, the line "the engine/transmission is learning your driving habits" have appease most people. News flash, it doesn't take 6 months for a car to learn your driving style. Its an ongoing revolution, so the car either works right or it doesn't. Anyway, I'm hoping I just got a lemon transmission and AOA will do the right thing and swap it out so I don't have any more issues, but who knows.
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    Guys, can we please limit the posts on this thread to actual Q&A? There are other threads to discuss the problem. I'd like to focus on building a list of those affected.

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    Well just for the sake of balance, 2011, 38.5K, no DSG issues so far. Sports diff is shot though. Thank you warranty!

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    I took my my S4 through Deal's Gap and in D and S mode there were several times when I was looking for a lower gear and nothing just revs. I'm not sure that it's a serious issue as much as just dumb logic in the DSG. If I went to "manual mode" the car behaved perfectly.

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    You can add mine to the list, but I won't get into details - and I'd imagine the amount of information you're asking is a little more than a lot of us are comfortable with, especially those who are tuned, and don't want TD1.

    My DSG was replaced since there was a faulty sensor on the unit.

    My DSG was fine, sure 1-2 is sometimes jerky, especially if you try to gas it when you are crawling, and the DSG decided to finally shift into 1st.

    I have only had the "neutral" happen once, on a 1-2 shift, on a right turn where traction is usually iffy (part of my daily commute, I know the road there well).

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    2011 w/ ~22k miles and no issues. i drive in manual 99.99% of the time though.. i just can't get used to auto as my 3 past cars were manual.
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    2010 with approximately 10k miles. Purchased used/certified, and problem was pre-existing. No mods.

    After 20-30 minutes of driving, VERY late and firm 2-1 downshift when coming to a stop. Transmission would literally bang- kinda felt like getting rear ended. Then, when taking off from a stop, the vehicle would shudder until about 10mph. No CEL/MIL's.

    I left it with the dealer, and after a couple days, they said they couldn't reproduce the problem. I went for a test drive with a technician and wouldn't you know it, it was driving perfectly. Luckily, just as we were pulling back into the dealership.. BANG! hard 2-1 downshift. We immediately went for another drive and the problem was clear as day. The next day the dealer called me and told me it would need a new mechatronics unit. Three days later, got the car back and it's been smooth sailing ever since. It's been about 6 months and 3k miles without a problem, but after doing a lot of research and hearing some of the horror stories about the DSG, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

    Frankly, I don't see myself owning a DSG unless I have a factory warranty on the car. Kinda harsh lol - but that's how I feel.

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    Year:
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    Mileage at first sign of problem; Mileage now:
    Bought at 21K, began noticing shortly after, now 39K

    Mods:
    none initially; Now with STaSIS - however I did notice it before the tune

    Problem:
    -Hard, kicking shifts when manually shifting 1 ->2 under 3k rpm - happens every time if I don't let off of the gas during the shift.
    -Occasional revving (as if i'm in neutral) in manual mode when slowing down abruptly in 4th gear and then getting back on the accelerator again after a turn or switching lanes - like others have described. Has happened about 4-5 times.
    -Occasional laggy 1->2 shifts in S mode when accelerating hard to redline (not frequently).

    In Warranty Still?:
    Yes - Audi + STaSIS until 50k

    Audi Response to complaint:
    1 - Feels normal, could not duplicate hard 1->2 shifts. When i drove it with the tech, he said i should be getting off of the gas when shifting (which does relieve the issue). I don't think other S4 owners need to do this.
    2 - Could not duplicate problem with being in neutral after a turn. I should have downshifted the car myself to avoid that.

    *I will be taking it to a different dealer next time (Bell Audi) with the same complaints to see if they do more than saying "it's normal" for me.

    Update #1 - According to my second dealer, the car falling out of gear into neutral is the "car's fail safe to prevent damage" and it is normal. Now opened a case with AoA - should hear back on Monday.

    Update #2 - took it back to my dealer and was able to replicate the problem. They ended up just reflashing my software to the latest version 12. My car had version 8 at the time. After, the car was noticeably smoother during auto driving and didn't seem to have the issue with it popping out of gear. Seems like it was more willing to downshift from 4th to 3rd, which was the problem before; it would hang about 4th at 1k rpm.

    Just because i'm freaked out by the potential need for a new transmission at some point (god only knows if it would have been fine - there weren't any major issues) I traded it in for a 2013 CPO 6MT, and because i miss driving manual so much.

    Best of luck!
    Last edited by tins5; 08-11-2013 at 05:02 AM.
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    Updated my post #1 with details.

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    Mine also has rough shifts from 1-2 under 3k rpms... Otherwise im pretty satisfied... should i bring this up to the dealer or is this starting to become normal?
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    I have a 2010 with 35K miles. I have had the rough shifting from 1-2 since the car was new. I just always thought it was normal. Now my car is doing the neutral revving thing. It first happened in manual mode when slowing for a turn and then giving it gas the car just revved to redline and would not go into gear. This was a week ago and it has since happened about 6 times. Mostly in manual mode, but also in auto. I have not taken too dealer yet. But will soon. I feel that this is a safety issue and the car could fail to accelerate when pulling out and I could get hit. I am also concerned that Audi is not going to fix it since I am APR tuned. We will find out soon. If they won't then time to sell it. I will report back later once it goes to the dealer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2010S4 View Post
    I have a 2010 with 35K miles. I have had the rough shifting from 1-2 since the car was new. I just always thought it was normal. Now my car is doing the neutral revving thing. It first happened in manual mode when slowing for a turn and then giving it gas the car just revved to redline and would not go into gear. This was a week ago and it has since happened about 6 times. Mostly in manual mode, but also in auto. I have not taken too dealer yet. But will soon. I feel that this is a safety issue and the car could fail to accelerate when pulling out and I could get hit. I am also concerned that Audi is not going to fix it since I am APR tuned. We will find out soon. If they won't then time to sell it. I will report back later once it goes to the dealer.

    Take it to your APR dealer and flash back to stock.

    Audi of USA has gone on record that they will fix your car if you flash back to stock before coming in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    Take it to your APR dealer and flash back to stock.

    Audi of USA has gone on record that they will fix your car if you flash back to stock before coming in.
    What if the car has already been into the dealer many times with the tune? Im sure I already have TD1. Also I have the pulley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeadToRome View Post
    Well just for the sake of balance, 2011, 38.5K, no DSG issues so far. Sports diff is shot though. Thank you warranty!
    Sport diff is shot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2010S4 View Post
    What if the car has already been into the dealer many times with the tune? Im sure I already have TD1. Also I have the pulley.
    I don't think that matters, they just cannot submit a warranty claim if the ECU is showing a current TD1. That is the way I took their letter.

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    46k now, I've had the jerky 1-2 shift at around 30k for a week. It ended up going away by itself. I do however still get the 1-2 hang up on WOT launches in manual mode where it won't go in to second and it revs past redline until the clutch catches 2nd this happens occasionally since I got the car in 2010. I also noticed that at idle in traffic it is sluggish to get going sometimes (RPM dips pretty low), it won't inch forward sometimes like it used to when you let off the brake, I just give it gas and its fine but otherwise its solid.

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    S4 DSG Problems Log Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    I don't think that matters, they just cannot submit a warranty claim if the ECU is showing a current TD1. That is the way I took their letter.
    Where can I find a copy of Audi of USA letter regarding getting warranty work done on a TD1 car?

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    Someone posted in online here, don't remember where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2010S4 View Post
    I have a 2010 with 35K miles. I have had the rough shifting from 1-2 since the car was new. I just always thought it was normal. Now my car is doing the neutral revving thing. It first happened in manual mode when slowing for a turn and then giving it gas the car just revved to redline and would not go into gear. This was a week ago and it has since happened about 6 times. Mostly in manual mode, but also in auto. I have not taken too dealer yet. But will soon. I feel that this is a safety issue and the car could fail to accelerate when pulling out and I could get hit. I am also concerned that Audi is not going to fix it since I am APR tuned. We will find out soon. If they won't then time to sell it. I will report back later once it goes to the dealer.
    Let me know how this goes. I have 23k on my 2011 and also experienced the neutral rev thing 3 times. Once a long time ago but the last two times recently. I to am apr tuned. The weird thing is I never had the rough 1-2 shift. Smooth as butter since day 1. Who knows...

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    Well I have not got a chance to take the car to the dealer yet as I have been really busy. However, I emailed them and explained the issue and also sent a video of the neutral revving occurring. I got a reply saying that the transmission just needs to be recoded. Sounds a little too simple for me, but Ill get it in there and let them give it a try.
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    Now VAG recalls 385k cars with DSG in China:

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/20/news...call?hpt=hp_t3

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    Did u disable the esp b4 u step hard the gas bar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmellMyFart View Post
    Did u disable the esp b4 u step hard the gas bar?
    Not sure if you were asking me, but no I did not. And I was not applying the gas very hard. Just normally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s4buckeye View Post
    Now VAG recalls 385k cars with DSG in China:

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/20/news...call?hpt=hp_t3
    These are not the same DSG units as found in the longitudinal mounted cars. Those are the FWD based cars
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2010S4 View Post
    Not sure if you were asking me, but no I did not. And I was not applying the gas very hard. Just normally.
    My jerky issue was caused by the backtracking. If ur car is jerky when starts and stops, there must be sth wrong in the transmission. My fz s4 had exactly the same issue as urs, and the dealer replaced a part in the transmission. Now his car is completely fine.
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    I did not say they were the same.

    I simply said another DSG issue....in China......affecting 358k cars.......in China........

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    Not manufactured by vw though. A Chinese subcontractor.

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    "Surging transmission issues"

    Gentlemen, ( & Ladies, don't want 2 offend or assume)
    Although I have a S5 Cab, I had very similar issues w/ my transmission. Car was purchased as a CPO in late Nov of 2012, bone stock w/~ 32000 miles. After ~ 1mo & < than 1000 miles, "surging & hard down shifts form 2nd-1st began occuring w/ regularity. Took it 2 the dealer & made the Serv. Rep go 4 a ride along to prove my point. Car cont. to do all of the aforementioned. 1st trip 2 the dealership was softwre updates, "that should fix it", no dice. 2nd trip same Dx, same solution same result. 3dr trip finally AoA said 2 replace the mechtron (sp?) part # 8K1-927-156-AD. Total cost was just shy of $3700.00, all coverd under CPO. Local Audi dealership, Green in Springfield IL, were outstanding in fixing this. Rep stated this was the 1st S5 AoA had w/the trans. pblm but fessed up to having this occur w/some S4's. Most of the pblm's were fixed w/software update(s) & a few were fixes like mine. If interested, go to the A5/S5 forum & look for "Surging tranny pblm w/S5 CaB 4 > info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by well_armed View Post
    I don't think that matters, they just cannot submit a warranty claim if the ECU is showing a current TD1. That is the way I took their letter.

    How long are we going to have confusion surrounding TD1? It's merely a flag on your car to alert a technician. It doesn't mean your warranty is void.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dparm View Post
    How long are we going to have confusion surrounding TD1? It's merely a flag on your car to alert a technician. It doesn't mean your warranty is void.
    From my experience (in canada at least) they are clamping down pretty hard on this whole thing.
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    So my car is at the dealer today to get this issue fixed and boy has it been an interesting day. Just to note I am APR stage II. So the dealer called me about an hour after dropping it off and said that they cannot work on my transmission because I have made changes to my computer and they would need to flash it back to stock first. I thought they were talking about my engine ECU. However, the service manager then said that when they do that I will loose my interior ambient lights that I had turned on. So I then said "oh you are talking about the VAGCOM mods". They said they would flash it back to stock for me for $500. I told them no I would do it for them. They then told me that I can't do it and that they have to do it for them to be able to do warranty work. This is about the biggest pile of crap I have heard. However, I told them to do it and then fix the tranny issue. So Im just playing along with their crap and seeing where this gets me. If they call back and say they did it and now can't fix the transmission issue then Im just going to pick the car up and forget about it. The stupidest thing is they never mentioned my engine tune. They specifically said the VAGCOM changes were the problem.
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    Updated my previous post and BUMP. More contributors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tins5 View Post
    Updated my previous post and BUMP. More contributors?
    Should be interesting, stasis will have to cover that now you have a flash.

    That's the exact problem I had and have had the mechatronics unit replace twice, about a year apart, second time involved a two moth long argument over warranty coverage.

    Repair costs 5-6000.
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    5-6000 is not nearly as bad as the 11-14 I've heard from others. I don't see how this could have possibly been caused by the Stasis tune and I think Audi knows it.
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