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    Quote Originally Posted by BzzzBom View Post
    You'll love the Alu Kreuz. Eurocode installed the AK on my 2013 S4 last week. I alread had the USS sways and end links.
    What were your impressions of the handling characteristics with JUST sways on vs. after the AK went on as well? I had my eurocode sways installed yesterday (haven't REALLY had the chance to fully test them out) but overall they did not make as BIG of a difference as I had hoped. They are definetly noticeable, but not to the extent I was hoping. Did you find the AK made a BIG difference above just the sways?

    My AK will be delivered when the group buy ends. Can't wait and really hoping it stiffens this car up in the turns, still too much squishy body roll for my tastes!

    OP, SICK ride man!!! Congrats on finally getting it, hope you have a great install day today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedollardoctor View Post
    What were your impressions of the handling characteristics with JUST sways on vs. after the AK went on as well? I had my eurocode sways installed yesterday (haven't REALLY had the chance to fully test them out) but overall they did not make as BIG of a difference as I had hoped. They are definetly noticeable, but not to the extent I was hoping. Did you find the AK made a BIG difference above just the sways?

    My AK will be delivered when the group buy ends. Can't wait and really hoping it stiffens this car up in the turns, still too much squishy body roll for my tastes!

    OP, SICK ride man!!! Congrats on finally getting it, hope you have a great install day today!

    Well, after a couple hundred miles under my belt, I can confidently say that these modifications make a serious difference on the cars handling profile.

    BTW, it took me 8 hours with 2 guys to install the following using a lift.

    H&R Springs
    Eurocode Front & Rear Sway bars
    Eurocode Front & Rear Endlinks
    Eurocode Alu Kruez
    SPC Adj. Upper Control Arms (front)
    AWE Intake
    AWE Exhaust

    This is with a beer and pizza, smoke breaks, and learning on the job.


    The Alu Kruez makes a significant difference in giving the feedback to the car. The best way to describe it is that when doing small inputs off dead center, before the feel was numb and completely void from any hydraulic feedback that you are used to sensing. NOW, it is much tighter and natural feeling. I can see how the guys at eCode say the AK makes a larger difference in B8.5's with the electronic steering module.

    The sways do exactly as they are supposed to. Car is much more flat in turns, and now easier to induce on-throttle oversteer. Springs I suspect are more of a look than actual handling benefit, although the car is lower to the ground, I suspect the sway bars could achieve the result most are looking for if they want to keep the stock ride height.

    AWE exhaust is pure sex. Tons of videos and reviews out there, so I won't waste any time.

    Only issue we encountered was with the APC adj. front control arms. The drivers side sticks out a little more than the right (matched the length of the stocks independently), which causes some slight rubbing on the plastic fender liner when hitting bumps, or pushing the suspension up into the wheel well. (right above the arm). I had to trim a tad bit of plastic to make room and all is good. I suspect that when I get an alignment it will gain more clearance.

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