It's time

**Seerlah** · 07-03-2012 11:43 AM

You won't know till you try with your bumper, but you are going to have fitment issues with the piping that would sit in the lower corners of the bumper. They come out too far. On the outlet of the intercooler, I would have ran a 45* silicone coupler (longer ones are more expensive, but would do the trick here). Then based the rest of the piping off of that for the cold side. On the intercooler outlet, a 45* aluminum piping cut to fit. Then would have built off of that to the compressor outlet. Either way, I know I wasted about $100 on unused couplers and such to make my charge piping. It's a trial and error thing, but was necessary. Now, I share that info with others so they know the easiest way to go about it and not have to waste money testing fitment (people running similar setups to mine).

**Grip99** · 07-03-2012 11:45 AM

looks good man!

If you wanted it to be alittle close in on the cold side, you could cut alittle off the 90 degree. Cutting the pipe leg off the intercooler to bring it in alittle and then cutting the 45 to the TB as well..

EDIT: you dont have a 45, you have a straight to the TB... I would cut some of that to bring it in closer so your bumper wont hit it...

Are you running ac anymore?

**M-Hood** · 07-03-2012 11:50 AM

Best to keep the pipes as tight as possible to the radiator support if you want them to sit behind the bumper/grills. So basically you want the pipe to be already behind the outlet/inlet of the FMIC by the time you reach the end of the radiator support down there.

**Grip99** · 07-03-2012 11:50 AM

heres what i did on my hot side since im running ac..

**redline380** · 07-03-2012 11:56 AM

thanks for the ideas guys. i am not running a/c. i will chop some off of the 90's coming off the intercooler and report back. for piping, i got one 90 and three 45's left. a bunch of straight couplers and one 90 i believe. im sure i can make it work.

**M-Hood** · 07-03-2012 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Grip99

heres what i did on my hot side since im running ac..

To tuck it even more a 45 deg hose at the FMIC inlet and a very short pipe with turning the 90 deg hose toward the FMIC could be used to line them up, but might need a 45 deg pipe to get into that 90 deg hose.

The stock bumper cuts back really fast once you get out past the bumper shock, so things get really tight back there.

**Grip99** · 07-03-2012 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by M-Hood

To tuck it even more a 45 deg hose at the FMIC inlet and a very short pipe with turning the 90 deg hose toward the FMIC could be used to line them up, but might need a 45 deg pipe to get into that 90 deg hose.

The stock bumper cuts back really fast once you get out past the bumper shock, so things get really tight back there.

My bumper is hacked, so if you care for your front bumper, like i dont lol, yea that will help.

**M-Hood** · 07-03-2012 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Grip99

My bumper is hacked, so if you care for your front bumper, like i dont lol, yea that will help.

You mean there is something left of your bumper you plan on using to cover that huge FMIC? lol

Something like this?

**Grip99** · 07-03-2012 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by M-Hood

You mean there is something left of your bumper you plan on using to cover that huge FMIC? lol

lol here is what it looks like.

No show...All go.. lol

**M-Hood** · 07-03-2012 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Grip99

lol here is what it looks like.

No show...All go.. lol

Well it looks like your showing a bit there, well of the FMIC that is. lol

But Pete you really should try to find a used S4 bumper, lower your huge FMIC down to get way more of it into direct air flow or just cut the center of the bumper like in the picture of Mike's car.

**Grip99** · 07-03-2012 12:23 PM

Id love an s4 bumper...Just havent found one where i could pick it up locally.

If one was around my area for sale, it would be on my car lol..

**redline380** · 07-03-2012 12:31 PM

hotside piping 2.0. id do the cold side but its so fricken hot outside i just need a tiny reason (like posting a photo) to come in and cool off.

**M-Hood** · 07-03-2012 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by redline380

hotside piping 2.0. id do the cold side but its so fricken hot outside i just need a tiny reason (like posting a photo) to come in and cool off.

Much better. It isn't the heat it is the humidity that gets you. It is so hot here in Arizona that the water in my sons 6 ft pool gets to 80-90 degs and it is in the shade. lol

**Grip99** · 07-03-2012 12:55 PM

lookin cleaner now..Nice!

**redline380** · 07-03-2012 01:00 PM

the humidity is pretty killer here. but question before i go at the cold side. wheres the best place to weld on my map sensor adapter? just anywhere before the throttle body or closer the the intercooler outlet better?

**M-Hood** · 07-03-2012 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by redline380

the humidity is pretty killer here. but question before i go at the cold side. wheres the best place to weld on my map sensor adapter? just anywhere before the throttle body or closer the the intercooler outlet better?

Doesn't matter, anywhere on the cold side pipe will do.

BTW here is a picture I took the about a week ago. I swear AZ is like living inside a hot side pipe. lol

**Seerlah** · 07-03-2012 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by redline380

just anywhere before the throttle body or closer the the intercooler outlet better?

Just be sure that wherever you place it that the stock harness can reach it.

**redline380** · 07-03-2012 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by M-Hood

remind me of when i went to vegas last august. walking out of a 65 degree casino into 115 degree heat was like walking into a damn oven. i could literally feel the moisture being sucked from my eyes. good thing i had lots of beer to hydrate me

is it true they purposefully report the high temerature as ten degress less than it actually is? i heard they do that so tourist still some.

**howardfootball** · 07-03-2012 01:28 PM

Arizona has some killer heat in the summer. I have family that lives out there and I remember a couple years back that it was about 125*F. Just breathing in that heat is difficult. At least it wasn't humid like here on the easy coast. Humidity is the real killer.

**redline380** · 07-03-2012 02:56 PM

cold side piping 2.0. not sure if you can see the plug for the map sensor, but thats where i plan on placing the adapter, so it will only be a few inches away from the bov. and i ended up using a 45* pipe instead of a straight one going to the throttle.

**Seerlah** · 07-03-2012 04:22 PM

Much better! Now it wrestling match time with the bumper.

**redline380** · 07-03-2012 07:56 PM

i placed the bumper on and it really seems like there wont be that much cutting involved. the first thing i cut were the plastic section that the grills clip into, then i tried placing the bumper on and i almost got it to clip in. i got the map sensor adapter welded on tonight, so im getting ready to get done. things on the list yet:
install fuel pump and make sure it works
install wideband gauge
run fuel lines and vacuum lines
flash ecu with maestro when it gets here

**Grip99** · 07-03-2012 09:38 PM

Nice job...Looks good man

**Grip99** · 07-03-2012 09:56 PM

Hows the head light fitment with the filter right there?

I remember i had to mod the headlight housing to fit with the filter so close.

I guess i should also mention the headlight on the passenger side as well looking the recent IC piping fitment

**redline380** · 07-03-2012 10:02 PM

funny you ask. i completely forgot about headlight fitment. i checked after i put everything in and i barely squeaked by

**Grip99** · 07-03-2012 10:04 PM

ok cool

**spindoctor** · 07-04-2012 04:56 AM

Can't wait to see this monster run. :)

**Tropicgreena4** · 07-04-2012 06:33 AM

what's with the green?

**M-Hood** · 07-04-2012 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by howardfootball

Arizona has some killer heat in the summer. I have family that lives out there and I remember a couple years back that it was about 125*F. Just breathing in that heat is difficult. At least it wasn't humid like here on the easy coast. Humidity is the real killer.

It is monsoon season here in AZ so it can get pretty humid too, right now it is raining.

**CCA4** · 07-05-2012 06:09 AM

I like what you did with the BOV. Looks way cleaner that way than having that coupler/adapter thing in the middle of the cold side pipe, then another coupler to the TB. Well played! That's the one from 034, yeah?

**redline380** · 07-05-2012 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by CCA4

I like what you did with the BOV. Looks way cleaner that way than having that coupler/adapter thing in the middle of the cold side pipe, then another coupler to the TB. Well played! That's the one from 034, yeah?

that one I actually got off siliconeintakes.com. http://www.siliconeintakes.com/produ...d0e52332eb00ae i cut the "t" part down a little to move the bov closer to the charge air. but i figured just using the t coupler to mate the charge pipe and the throttle body would have the advantage of getting the bov that much closer to the throttle. i do want things to look good under the hood, but at the end of the day it should still be form over function

**redline380** · 07-05-2012 10:04 AM

well good news is things are getting ready to start up. i dont have much left to do and the tracking number for maestro finally got emailed to me. should be here tomorrow.

the bad news is i picked up another shingling job. this time its around 25 square, so it will take a couple days. i think its only supposed to be around 85 tomorrow, so that helps. with any luck ill be getting this thing going by sunday or monday. after i get it started ill just have ti weld up the exhaust. my projects for today include- installing fuel pumo, fitting bumper, running gas and vacuum lines.

**redline380** · 07-05-2012 07:48 PM

ok bad news first- the tracking on maestro says it went from mississauga, ontario to pettysburg, oh which is nowhere near minnesota. this means it wont be here till monday

not all that big of a deal since i got a big shingling job which will take all weekend

the good news- got the fuel pump in, fuel and vaccum lines ran. happy to report no leaks in the fuel system (yet), but my pressure goes from 60 psi on priming, to around 50 psi sitting. then it goes below 40 psi after sitting an hour. where is my fuel pressure going? there are no leaks that i can see. a stupid move on my part though. i cranked the motor over to check fuel pressure and the damn thing accidentally started, without the oil line to the turbo primed. the car idled up to 3000 right away and i killed it. hopefully no damage was done to the turbo bearings, but its a used turbo so im hoping enough oil was still in there for the second it was running. after that, i pulled the oil line to the turbo, removed the coil packs and fuel pump fuse, and cranked till my buddy saw oil coming out the line. but as of now i just gotta wire up the wideband this weekend and wait for maestro.

**Grip99** · 07-05-2012 08:00 PM

Sometimes people install a check valve that doesnt alow pressure loss.

Some of its probably going back into the tank.

**M-Hood** · 07-06-2012 05:47 AM

The pressure is always going to leak off a bit even with a check valve at the pump, the fuel will leak off at the FPR. This is why the pump will prime the system when you first turn on the key.

**redline380** · 07-06-2012 08:24 PM

good to know guys. what do you think about the the motor starting without oil in the turbo? it only reved up to 3000 and i shut it off right after. two seconds max

**Grip99** · 07-06-2012 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by redline380

good to know guys. what do you think about the the motor starting without oil in the turbo? it only reved up to 3000 and i shut it off right after. two seconds max

Has there been oil in the turbo before?