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[Auditude2.0T]

Wait. Do they have the same gear box? And apr stage 1 s4 6 speed keeps up with a stock rs4 but pulls a half car from 40-115ish(half car comes in more on the higher speeds) So the rs5 should also or maybe keep up cuz of the 30 extra hp?

A Stage 1 S4 kills the RS4 lol- here we go again. I ran a 12.38 compared to your 15.06 60-130 and I'm stage 1. That's car lengths bro...

[Auditude2.0T]

Same DA, same stretch of road etc.. I'm almost 3 seconds faster. Your only 1 second faster than my stock time... A Stock S4 is a much better run for you than a Stage 1 car. Remember that one run against my dad's car? With two people in my dads car, with just a tune we easily pulled away and you got the jump but didn't stand a chance.

[staticuxo]

Wait. Do they have the same gear box? And apr stage 1 s4 6 speed keeps up with a stock rs4 but pulls a half car from 40-115ish(half car comes in more on the higher speeds) So the rs5 should also or maybe keep up cuz of the 30 extra hp?

tony, remember when we did a pull after DoD and my B7 S4 was dead even with your RS4 too? there's NO way my B7 S4 would keep up with my B8 S4. my B7 dyno'd 287whp and the tq was around that too.

[tins5]

tony, remember when we did a pull after DoD and my B7 S4 was dead even with your RS4 too? there's NO way my B7 S4 would keep up with my B8 S4. my B7 dyno'd 287whp and the tq was around that too.

LOL. but why was done to your B7 S4 for it to stick with an RS4? I woulda thought a B7 S4 would get stomped on...

[staticuxo]

LOL. but why was done to your B7 S4 for it to stick with an RS4? I woulda thought a B7 S4 would get stomped on...

2.5" catless downpipes, 2.5" FI exhaust, JHM tune, KW V3, etc.

[Auditude2.0T]

Tony you're comparing to a very weak APR Stage 1 V1. APR Stage 1 V2, GIAC Stage 1 and REVO Stage 1 will walk your car bad. You've seen in happen ala my dads car. I was dead even with Tsivas before he went V2 and Tsivas put 5+ cars on you when you ran. He would start in 3rd and you in 2nd just to make it even kinda close.

[tsivas27]

Wait. Do they have the same gear box? And apr stage 1 s4 6 speed keeps up with a stock rs4 but pulls a half car from 40-115ish(half car comes in more on the higher speeds) So the rs5 should also or maybe keep up cuz of the 30 extra hp?

I have probably done more pulls against an RS4 than most here so let me chime in....

Edit: You kept up with a stage 1 APR Version 1 flash, not S4 kept up with you. You were behind by about a car (not a half) and if we kept going that would have increased as I was creeping away. You shut down early 99% of time for some reason and lessen the result. And that was a weak file compared to new v2.0. The newer tunes (GIAC, Revo) in stage 1 form are as fast/if not faster in certain weather conditions as APR Stage 2 V1 as we have seen on vbox times.

With Stage 2, V1/V2 - it's definitely +4-5 cars, if not more.. you seem to stop at a certain speed to not make look worse than it is. And to make fun/ semi- fair, let's be honest here...a lot of times I start in a higher gear (3rd for me to 2nd for you) and let you get jump

S4 3rd gear pulls a little better than your 2nd gear. You even admitted that. This is with your LW flywheel/clutch combo. Your gear ratios definitely help you down low.

S4 starting in 4th vs your 3rd is a little closer race but that's not really realistic.

[Auditude2.0T]

Tsivas- you should so also add that run was done 2 days after Tony's carbon cleaning. Since carbon build up is his biggest excuse.

[tsivas27]

Tsivas- you should so also add that run was done 2 days after Tony's carbon cleaning. Since carbon build up is his biggest excuse.

yep was done in colder weather where my V1 dumped ~20-25% of it's boost and he just had carbon clean few weeks earlier. I believe it was early November and night was pretty damn cold.

[tsivas27]

tony, remember when we did a pull after DoD and my B7 S4 was dead even with your RS4 too? there's NO way my B7 S4 would keep up with my B8 S4. my B7 dyno'd 287whp and the tq was around that too.

To be honest - his car was not as fast back then as he did not have a carbon clean/no LW FW/stage 4 clutch. Stock S4 was even with it before he cleaned it. Tony's car is running really well now.

I would say that with your setup (revo 91).. u should be about ~1.5-2 cars ahead.

Pete/his pops ran more aggressive than yours 93 revo file against it and it was 2.5-3 cars with passenger up to certain speed/early shutdown. I would say a passenger adds what...a car length?

[rs4 tony]

Same DA, same stretch of road etc.. I'm almost 3 seconds faster. Your only 1 second faster than my stock time... A Stock S4 is a much better run for you than a Stage 1 car. Remember that one run against my dad's car? With two people in my dads car, with just a tune we easily pulled away and you got the jump but didn't stand a chance.

I said apr not giac or revo

[rs4 tony]

tony, remember when we did a pull after DoD and my B7 S4 was dead even with your RS4 too? there's NO way my B7 S4 would keep up with my B8 S4. my B7 dyno'd 287whp and the tq was around that too.

Carbon cleaned after that pull. Which was first ever done at 63k miles then 72k

[rs4 tony]

. I would say a passenger adds what...a car length?

car length maybe a hair more as me and u tested with your brother

[rs4 tony]

yep was done in colder weather where my V1 dumped ~20-25% of it's boost and he just had carbon clean few weeks earlier. I believe it was early November and night was pretty damn cold.

Exactly wht I was talking about ^ my point exactly tsiv. Right before we ha dyno day

[Auditude2.0T]

Regardless- a Stage 1 S4 kills the RS4.....

[audisarecool]

and the plot thickens

[staticuxo]

To be honest - his car was not as fast back then as he did not have a carbon clean/no LW FW/stage 4 clutch. Stock S4 was even with it before he cleaned it. Tony's car is running really well now.

I would say that with your setup (revo 91).. u should be about ~1.5-2 cars ahead.

Pete/his pops ran more aggressive than yours 93 revo file against it and it was 2.5-3 cars with passenger up to certain speed/early shutdown. I would say a passenger adds what...a car length?

well, last night showed the new Revo91/STaSIS tune is pretty decent.. put about 4 cars on the RS4 from 40 mph to ~120mph. it doesn't stack up against the more aggressive tunes, but it's much improved.

and the plot thickens

indeed! had some nice runs last night

13.61 - 13.73 for our new Revo/STaSIS tuned cars 60-130mph at DA+1320.. not bad.

[tsivas27]

DA last night +1320

2011 Audi S4, DSG Stasis/Revo 91 Tune (updated) Stasis Exhaust/Awe Tuning non-res downpipes, Injen Intake (w/heat shield off) 13.73s

2011 Audi S4, DSG Stasis/Revo 91 Tune (updated) Stock Exhaust/Intake 13.61s

[tsivas27]

well, last night showed the new Revo91/STaSIS tune is pretty decent.. put about 4 cars on the RS4 from 40 mph to ~120mph. it doesn't stack up against the more aggressive tunes, but it's much improved.



indeed! had some nice runs last night

13.61 - 13.8 for our new Revo/STaSIS tuned cars 60-130mph at DA+1320.. not bad.

Be careful about using that word around here.. people's panties get all bunched up.

[staticuxo]

Be careful about using that word around here.. people's panties get all bunched up.

love it

[tins5]

DA last night +1320

2011 Audi S4, DSG Stasis/Revo 91 Tune (updated) Stasis Exhaust/Awe Tuning non-res downpipes, Injen Intake (w/heat shield off) 13.73s

2011 Audi S4, DSG Stasis/Revo 91 Tune (updated) Stock Exhaust/Intake 13.61s

Damn I guess it is true that it's the least aggressive :( I guess that's why my best 1/4 to date with the tune is [email protected]. DA was +807 for me last night.

[audisarecool]

Damn I guess it is true that it's the least aggressive :( I guess that's why my best 1/4 to date with the tune is [email protected]. DA was +807 for me last night.

It's nothing to be upset over.. do what I do and use the warranty paper to wipe away the tears .

[tsivas27]

It's nothing to be upset over.. do what I do and use the warranty paper to wipe away the tears .

Lol I think your tears are from my sonorous exhaust note and fumes and you squinting at night to see my car way ahead.

[U2SLO]

I completely destroyed a RS4 at waterfest in the quarter mile .He had all kinds of bolt on's and whatever.He went 15.0.I went 12.9.

[audisarecool]

Lol I think your tears are from my sonorous exhaust note and fumes and you squinting at night to see my car way ahead.

bahahah, my eyes are fine, I can see you way ahead without squinting thank you very much.

[tins5]

we'll see how my car does when it gets colder out. A lot of the times posted in the 1/4 thread are from the winter. I think my car is capable of 12.5-12.6. i'd be more than happy with 12.5!

[Auditude2.0T]

We're taking 60-130 on 1/4 mile lol

[NY07RS4]

The RS4 hate is comical. 60 - 130,,,,,,,60 - 130,,,,,60 - 130... Any of the 60-130 B8S4 heros from the list above make it to a 1/4 track yet, with slips to share? DOn't use the outliers like Ron - use your car's 1/4 times on pump with slips.

Tsivas, the data is awesome as I've mentioned a million times before - thanks for taking the time. The numbers speak for themselves, a modded B8S4 is faster than a stock (for the most part) RS4. Is anyone shocked by that?

Bustin an 18 year old kid's chops like there is a trophy up for grabs lol. He doesn't have a tune or a real performance exhaust (the ECS H Pipe is not helping, let's be honest), the intake spacers and LW flywheel are helping him - yet people are waving the checkered flag? Kinda premature no?

Stock for stock his times are faster than any B8S4 - correct? Why not wait to dish a smack down until he is tuned with proper exhaust in the colder temps - pump vs. pump? Wouldn't that be a better comparison for smack talking? I know you guys are all friends and it's harmless fun, it's just funny to watch this from the sidelines and have some of the obvious specifics missing from the argument.

Before you chime in Tsiv, I will most likely make it to a certified 1/4 track to run semi stock before I run at the "spot" again. Regardless of the "precautions" in place, I'm not a big fan of running 130+ there.

[tsivas27]

Sounds good bud. As long as you're under my watch - the Federales won't bother u. ;)

And yes a few on the list have gone to the track - but this isn't a quarter mile thread. Was just offering a different type of comparison.

As far as the RS4 goes- I try my best to bring out modded ones but the owners always bail the last second or have a million excuses. I try man. Same goes for the 4 E92 M3 guys I have asked about 50 times.

Working on an RS5 now and maybe a C63.

Also working on a fall dyno and track day for all of us.

[Auditude2.0T]

There are a few cars on the list that have ran at the 1/4. Stock tune DSG ran a 12.8 at waterfest, my dads car ran 12.4@114mph 93 tune only, Luis ran a 12.4@114mph with a slipping clutch and I believe there is another as well.. Again no hate towards any car- I love the RS :) but th S4 does put some serious #'s down at the track and 60-130 with very minimal mods

[Vogz]

Stock for stock his times are faster than any B8S4 - correct? Why not wait to dish a smack down until he is tuned with proper exhaust in the colder temps - pump vs. pump? Wouldn't that be a better comparison for smack talking? I know you guys are all friends and it's harmless fun, it's just funny to watch this from the sidelines and have some of the obvious specifics missing from the argument.

What did he run in the 1/4? I've run the E.T./trap in my sig in less than stellar DA (1800ft), without ASR defeated, and that's not even the quickest stock B8 S4 E.T.

Ever heard of "run what you brung"? When he has those mods that you speak of, then he can take a shot at some modded S4s and see where he stands.

[tsivas27]

What did he run in the 1/4? I've run the E.T./trap in my sig in less than stellar DA (1800ft), without ASR defeated, and that's not even the quickest stock B8 S4 E.T.

Ever heard of "run what you brung"? When he has those mods that you speak of, then he can take a shot at some modded S4s and see where he stands.

he was referring to stock 60-130 times for both cars.

[Vogz]

he was referring to stock 60-130 times for both cars.

Ah, based on his other post he was poking fun at the 60-130 times and asking about 1/4 mile time, so that's what I thought he meant.

[Vi112]

I have found an interesting comparison video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maminhUKEEI

It shows 60-130 acceleration for different cars (however speed is in KPH there). Looks like a typical tuned S4 is somewhere in a rage of a tuned BMW 335d (diesel) or BMW X6M stock and significantly slower than C63 or tuned 335i.

All cars there were tested same day same track same RaceLogic.

[audisarecool]

I have found an interesting comparison video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maminhUKEEI

It shows 60-130 acceleration for different cars (however speed is in KPH there). Looks like a typical tuned S4 is somewhere in a rage of a tuned BMW 335d (diesel) or BMW X6M stock and significantly slower than C63 or tuned 335i.

All cars there were tested same day same track same RaceLogic.

It's tough to compare runs from different roads since the tiniest difference in slope can have pretty large effects. Check out the 60-130 times on bimmerpost and 6speedonline where they allow up to 3% decline.. times posted there all seem incredibly fast, 335's with tune/exhaust running 7,8,9 secs.. which would be all but impossible for those same cars on tsiv's private track which I'm almost sure is completely level.

[tsivas27]

It's tough to compare runs from different roads since the tiniest different in slope can have pretty large effects. Check out the 60-130 times on bimmerpost and 6speedonline where they allow up to 3% decline.. times posted there all seem incredibly fast, 335's with tune/exhaust running 7,8,9 secs.. which would be all but impossible for those same cars on tsiv's private track which I'm almost sure is completely level.

yep - case in pt, apexit ran a 10.86s verified time with a 2.99% decline at another place and he was stage 1 APR version 1.0 at the time.

Here he ran a 11.99s with a 0% decline and he is Stage 2+ Version 2.0.

[Auditude2.0T]

Stasis Times added!

[Auditude2.0T]

Here is an easy to read list of the quickest to slowest runs from this summer. DA's range from +900-1900. You can match the times to the main list to see the exact DA of the run.

[Speed Stick]

auditude, just wondering why you switched from revo to giac?

[tsivas27]

He was never Revo. That's his pop's car. I pushed him to try something different.