What Did You Do To Your B7 Today?..

[EvolutionArmory]

But is your CD red? Checkmate.

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You win. It's not 😞

But it could be for an additional 3.99. Lol

On a side note I saw a guy on a Facebook group who plumbed in a B5 side mount intercooler between his CAI and intake manifold the other day. It was on a B5 12v V6. Lol.

He was convinced it was making his car run better and wouldn't be told otherwise. He wouldn't believe that sticking an intercooler next to the exhaust manifold wouldn't do anything or make it run worse.

[dalmation53]

Oh I meant 87 and 89 octane lol

I had to fuel up with 89 as well. Nothing has happened and performance didnt decrease either.

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[DanielP]

You win. It's not 😞

But it could be for an additional 3.99. Lol

On a side note I saw a guy on a Facebook group who plumbed in a B5 side mount intercooler between his CAI and intake manifold the other day. It was on a B5 12v V6. Lol.

He was convinced it was making his car run better and wouldn't be told otherwise. He wouldn't believe that sticking an intercooler next to the exhaust manifold wouldn't do anything or make it run worse.

Its an interCOOLER. i rest my case.

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[Charles.waite]

You win. It's not

But it could be for an additional 3.99. Lol

On a side note I saw a guy on a Facebook group who plumbed in a B5 side mount intercooler between his CAI and intake manifold the other day. It was on a B5 12v V6. Lol.

He was convinced it was making his car run better and wouldn't be told otherwise. He wouldn't believe that sticking an intercooler next to the exhaust manifold wouldn't do anything or make it run worse.

That could be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard of. What a moron!

[melomandn]

You win. It's not 😞

But it could be for an additional 3.99. Lol

On a side note I saw a guy on a Facebook group who plumbed in a B5 side mount intercooler between his CAI and intake manifold the other day. It was on a B5 12v V6. Lol.

He was convinced it was making his car run better and wouldn't be told otherwise. He wouldn't believe that sticking an intercooler next to the exhaust manifold wouldn't do anything or make it run worse.

Please tell me you have a link to this

[Willënskraft]

I had to fuel up with 89 as well. Nothing has happened and performance didnt decrease either.

Didn't realize you were in Florida, stay safe dude.



Hope everyone stays safe from the hurricane in the south.

[dalmation53]

Didn't realize you were in Florida, stay safe dude.



Hope everyone stays safe from the hurricane in the south.

Hey thank you so much brotha. We evacuated to a hotel didn't wanna stay home you never know.

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[vce1232000]

Oh I meant 87 and 89 octane lol

89 down there is considered premium fuel . we gotz 93 octane all day, everyday, everywhere . We even have some Sunoco gas stations with 100 octane

[Willënskraft]

89 down there is considered premium fuel . we gotz 93 octane all day, everyday, everywhere . We even have some Sunoco gas stations with 100 octane

Yeah 93 is premium here. Really want to try 95 and up .

[vce1232000]

Yup. The only time you NEED an air intake is when your turbo is physically too big to put the stock air box back on because you should have SOME sort of filter on there. There's WAY more R&D and engineering in that stock air box than any 3 CAI companies spent on their entire product lines. 😀

I think CAI's are so popular because people WANT them to work and never really take the time to look at the data or science to see if they ACTUALLY work. Lol

Stock air box mod here. Sounds like a freight train pulling up an steep incline when wot. Cost me zero dollars

[vce1232000]

Yeah 93 is premium here. Really want to try 95 and up .

Throwing anything over 93 octane is just ing your $$$$ away . Unless your tuned for it

[Willënskraft]

Throwing anything over 93 octane is just ing your $$$$ away . Unless your tuned for it

It's just that every time I refuel and look at the fuel door it says "SUPER 95", and there's never 95 octane at the pump.

[vce1232000]

It's just that every time I refuel and look at the fuel door it says "SUPER 95", and there's never 95 octane at the pump.

Now Im gonna have to @ what my fuel door says now . Ive never noticed it. We have full service in NJ and we dont pump our own gas ............

[Dondbg]

Now Im gonna have to @ what my fuel door says now . Ive never noticed it. We have full service in NJ and we dont pump our own gas ............

It's will say "unleaded fuel only"
The car will be ok with low octan, I know that low octan may lead to engine nock, its have to do with the fuel able to withstand high compression, but never happened with me whenever I use low octan, lowest I used is 91, there is no lower here in NZ.
But I'm using 98 anyway :)


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[EvolutionArmory]

It's just that every time I refuel and look at the fuel door it says "SUPER 95", and there's never 95 octane at the pump.

91 octane=95 RON in Europe

93 octane=98 RON in Europe

[Dondbg]

91 octane=95 RON in Europe

93 octane=98 RON in Europe

Interesting to know.
Will need to figure out which we have here.


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[Charles.waite]

Europe uses a different measuring system than the US.

Anything over 91 is fine. Realistically you can use 87 but your ECU will cut timing. You may not notice a difference in normal driving but when you’re really pushing it and IATs climb the engine will probably knock and the ECU will dial timing back to avoid detonation.

[dalmation53]

Europe uses a different measuring system than the US.

Anything over 91 is fine. Realistically you can use 87 but your ECU will
Cut timing.

I had to fill up with 89 due to hurricane. Haven't felt a difference.

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[Charles.waite]

I had to fill up with 89 due to hurricane. Haven't felt a difference.

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Yea see my edit above. You’re really going to see very little difference in normal day to day driving between 89 and premium (92 where I live).

[dalmation53]

Yea see my edit above. You’re really going to see very little difference in normal day to day driving between 89 and premium (92 where I live).

So you saying i can run 89? Not trying to be a cheap fuck just want to know because if that is not a problem then why not run 89.

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[aluthman]

Now Im gonna have to @ what my fuel door says now . Ive never noticed it. We have full service in NJ and we aren't allowed to pump our own gas ............

That's because NJ sucks.

[vce1232000]

Realistically you can use 87 but your ECU will cut timing. You may not notice a difference in normal driving but when you’re really pushing it and IATs climb the engine will probably knock and the ECU will dial timing back to avoid detonation.

. You will really feel the difference in high altitude area's around wot

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That's because NJ sucks.

.... I have no comeback comment on this

[Charles.waite]

So you saying i can run 89? Not trying to be a cheap fuck just want to know because if that is not a problem then why not run 89.

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You can but you shouldn’t. There’s a reason all turbo motors require 91 or higher. And it’s not because of marketing. The ecus are tolerant of lower octane gas but they won’t run optimally. Similarly there’s a reason companies tuned perform better on 93 vs 91. It’s not marketing BS it really is a difference in safety margin before detonation occurs and destroys your pistons.

[dalmation53]

You can but you shouldn’t. There’s a reason all turbo motors require 91 or higher.

Yeah of cours i just ask because i felt no difference even in wot. Now 87 is a different story that i would never do but 89 seemed to have no effect or knock.

[EvolutionArmory]

Yeah of cours i just ask because i felt no difference even in wot. Now 87 is a different story that i would never do but 89 seemed to have no effect or knock.

At close to or at sea level you probably won't even notice with a tank or 2. Should be fine in Florida. 😀

Stay safe. How's it going down there?

[dalmation53]

At close to or at sea level you probably won't even notice with a tank or 2. Should be fine in Florida. 😀

Stay safe. How's it going down there?

Yeah at sea level. I'm in orlando and we getting some rain with some 50 mph winds but is still not here yet. We expect to get hit at 8pm @ 120mph category 4.

[EvolutionArmory]

You can but you shouldn’t. There’s a reason all turbo motors require 91 or higher. And it’s not because of marketing. The ecus are tolerant of lower octane gas but they won’t run optimally. Similarly there’s a reason companies tuned perform better on 93 vs 91. It’s not marketing BS it really is a difference in safety margin before detonation occurs and destroys your pistons.

I think the main reason tuning companies even offer a 91 octane file to begin with is due to the lack of availability of 93 on the left coast. If it was readily available in CA for example, I don't see why they would even offer a 91 file. The tunes work best with 93 but if you can't get it you work with the highest octane you can get.

[vce1232000]

I think the main reason tuning companies even offer a 91 octane file to begin with is due to the lack of availability of 93 on the left coast.

. I down to Delaware and MD and they dont have 93 octane readily available. I think 91 was the best I could find @ most places

[Charles.waite]

I think the main reason tuning companies even offer a 91 octane file to begin with is due to the lack of availability of 93 on the left coast. If it was readily available in CA for example, I don't see why they would even offer a 91 file. The tunes work best with 93 but if you can't get it you work with the highest octane you can get.

Yup. I ran my b6 on apr’s 91 file but I tried the 93 a few times. A very subtle difference but I kept it on the 91 tune because it was a DD and I didn’t want to mess with detonation even if the risk was fairly low.

[Caconway2322]

Here's me new project kinda started due to running into a little filter problem



Yes that is a ITG filter and it was found in the air box. So I ran into a project to try and fix. I only had two options put back in the thick ass OEM filter or being creative. I chose the fun one. So in the past been doing a lot of reading how cold air intakes for the B7 platform are not a great idea most forms say the same thing. The stock air box protects against heat more than a flimsy heat shield from the cold air intakes.

So I came up with an idea what if I pull somewhere else??? Well this is what I came up with. In the past I had already removed my side mounted intercoolers and put in one large AWE intercooler. So with all that extra room I had a spot to route a cone filter using the old grill for the intercooler down by the fog light. And if I go to the track I can take the fog light out and have the space completely open. This is how it came out. Any thoughts pros and cons. It's not completely finished was still thinking about making a sort of heat shield. The pieces are from advance auto parts it's the build your own custom intake pipes from Spector. I know sounds kinda lame and was very skeptical my self but at the time all I had was this or a OEM filter. So here you go.....

Here's the voids of space to work with. And below is the out come.

So if you look closely you can see the filter is down next to the frame rail. So now the frame acts as a heat shield from the turbo. It's also high to stay out the water path way. The stock piece from the air box was used to hold the mass air flow sensor. It gets in screwed from the box and get inserted straight into the come filter. And used a silicone connector on the other side, no cutting drilling required and will beable to be put back to stock if need be. Here's the finished look.


So now for the feed back what do you guys think.



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[Ashtonts]

^ a few members on here have done it like that. That's the best way to do a CAI in all honesty

[Caconway2322]

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[Caconway2322]

^ a few members on here have done it like that. That's the best way to do a CAI in all honesty

What do you think about a heat shield?? Would it be worth my time?? I was also thinking about wrapping it again for extra insulation.



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[DanielP]

Bought a drip pan traced out a custom shield.


Wrapped it up in Exhaust heat wrap, looks pretty cool.


Drove it hard as hell, AND I WAS ABLE TO TOUCH IT. WAS NOT HOT!!!!

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[mgfranz]

You can but you shouldn’t. There’s a reason all turbo motors require 91 or higher. And it’s not because of marketing. The ecus are tolerant of lower octane gas but they won’t run optimally. Similarly there’s a reason companies tuned perform better on 93 vs 91. It’s not marketing BS it really is a difference in safety margin before detonation occurs and destroys your pistons.

It use to be only a compression issue, back in the day when 10:1 compression was a normal high performance level, a minimum RA was 92, but then the manufactures started to bring out 8:1 compression as a norm and everything dropped to a minimum of 87 RM the requirements changed. Out here in CA we have things like winter and summer "blends", which is BS anyway and all it does is put more $$$ in the oil companies hands. So yea you could run a 87 without causing a problem, but it's like drinking a watered down 13 year old single malt... It's not the ECU, it's just quality of petro.

[vce1232000]

So now for the feed back what do you guys think.

Becareful thru puddles. As it mite pull in water and hydrolock the engine. Ive in happen to a few members here

[Caconway2322]

Becareful thru puddles. As it mite pull in water and hydrolock the engine. Ive in happen to a few members here

I think it should be ok it is up higher it's just below the headlight


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[Caconway2322]

Becareful thru puddles. As it mite pull in water and hydrolock the engine. Ive in happen to a few members here

Should be ok it's up higher. It's just under the headlight



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[Okedokey]

A deflection panel put in front of it would massively reduce the likelihood.

[Charles.waite]

This is true. It would at least block any direct washer splashes. I’m still unconvinced it’s going to provide any meaningful benefit over a stock airbox aside from induction noise.