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    Test Pipe p0420 fix?

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    Back in the day when I trolled the BMW world, the guys who had headers would build a small box with two o2 bungs to thread the rear o2 sensors into and this fresh air box would keep the computer happy and believing the car still had a NOx scrubbing cat. Is there any reason this wouldn't work on my b6?

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    isnt the point to get it to read a LOWER value than it would without a cat? That would be like reading no value at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by vteckiller2000 View Post
    Back in the day when I trolled the BMW world, the guys who had headers would build a small box with two o2 bungs to thread the rear o2 sensors into and this fresh air box would keep the computer happy and believing the car still had a NOx scrubbing cat. Is there any reason this wouldn't work on my b6?

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    Why not just install something more simple like this?

    http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-238608.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excelerate View Post
    Why not just install something more simple like this?

    http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-238608.aspx
    People report the j pipes being hit or miss. I want a solution that works. Has anyone any real experience with the mini cat plugs? (or link to thread)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vteckiller2000 View Post
    People report the j pipes being hit or miss. I want a solution that works. Has anyone any real experience with the mini cat plugs? (or link to thread)
    No real experience but it sure looks interesting:Clicky click

    A quick Google turned up this: Clicky click
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    I wrap my rear O2 sensor with electric tape. 1400miles and no CEL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiguy1234 View Post
    I wrap my rear O2 sensor with electric tape. 1400miles and no CEL
    Interesting....Have you checked it lately? I'm kinda surprised that the tape hasn't melted. The O2 sensor heaters heat to over 600°f. I wouldn't think wrapping the sensor with a flammable material would be the best way to handle it.
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    Pretty sure the fresh air box would cause some kind of code like: "B1 S2 : No Activity" or "Bank1: Lambda Correction Behind Catalyst: Control Limit Reached" or some such. These newer ECU's have gotten seriously picky about what they want to see the o2 sensors do. Sitting in a constant fresh air supply probably isn't conducive to that.

    Personally, I think somebody needs to pull the trigger and try out one of these "cats on a stick" to see if they actually work.
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    Oh haha I just replaced that spot with an AFR gauge. So my O2 is just hanging in my engine bay

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    Quote Originally Posted by walky_talky20 View Post
    Pretty sure the fresh air box would cause some kind of code like: "B1 S2 : No Activity" or "Bank1: Lambda Correction Behind Catalyst: Control Limit Reached" or some such. These newer ECU's have gotten seriously picky about what they want to see the o2 sensors do. Sitting in a constant fresh air supply probably isn't conducive to that.

    Personally, I think somebody needs to pull the trigger and try out one of these "cats on a stick" to see if they actually work.
    my only thought on that is what does the O2 sensor read? well oxygen obviously. but is it looking for just a concentration drop due to burn or air flow sort of like MAF? if its just flow, in not sure why we would need a cat plug, just the fouler/j bung trick.

    but i know , those little guys are just super neato.
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    Hey guys.

    Get these. http://www.stratmosphere.com/category/12

    Here is a thread with multiple people and set ups using them. HFC's and test pipes, no CEL. True, B8/2.0T, but its the best example of the product I have running here on the 'zine.

    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-with-catalyst

    It's worked on a ton of other vehicles as well.


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    Sweet!! I had no idea you guys had these. "Big Daddies" was the only one I was aware of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StratJohn View Post
    Hey guys.

    Get these. http://www.stratmosphere.com/category/12

    Here is a thread with multiple people and set ups using them. HFC's and test pipes, no CEL. True, B8/2.0T, but its the best example of the product I have running here on the 'zine.

    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-with-catalyst

    It's worked on a ton of other vehicles as well.

    I am curious, but I have seen various hit or miss results and I am not sold on it enough to pay that much for a spacer unless I know it will work for sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vteckiller2000 View Post
    I am curious, but I have seen various hit or miss results and I am not sold on it enough to pay that much for a spacer unless I know it will work for sure...
    Unfortunately the only way to "know for sure" is to buy it and try it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vteckiller2000 View Post
    I am curious, but I have seen various hit or miss results and I am not sold on it enough to pay that much for a spacer unless I know it will work for sure...

    You've seen various hit or miss results with OTHER spacers and methods.

    That thread is basically 10 people trying it out, and all ending with success.

    Curious enough? Order one and try it. Start a thread here, just like they did. I'll keep an eye on it and help anyone out along the way. I'm making a point to stand behind it.

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    Thx, perfect thread, I was about to install my testpipe on my B6 winter beater, sadly im Unitronic chipped and the soft doesnt come with a cel remover like my 2.0t. Not sure when ill order it tho, but ill post when it's done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old guy View Post
    Interesting....Have you checked it lately? I'm kinda surprised that the tape hasn't melted. The O2 sensor heaters heat to over 600°f. I wouldn't think wrapping the sensor with a flammable material would be the best way to handle it.
    x2 exactly what i was thinking........

    I'm running revo2 and apparently the p0420 is written out, but yet I still get cat codes, the Jbung did nothing except make things worse. I'm really intrigued by these mini cat's, definitely going to pick one up. Worth a try in my eyes.
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    Please post up your results. I'm probably going to pick up an 034 HFC in the next month or two and plan to add a "mini cat" for insurance against a P0420 CEL.
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    I'm interested in the results too. If it works i'll be purchasing one as well.

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    As a fun test, I've just installed these spacers on a catless 3.0L B6 A4. I'll keep you posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StratJohn View Post
    As a fun test, I've just installed these spacers on a catless 3.0L B6 A4. I'll keep you posted.
    The straight one or the 90 degree one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin117s5 View Post
    The straight one or the 90 degree one?
    One of each. I mean why not? Left downpipe has 90*, right downpipe has straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old guy View Post
    Please post up your results. I'm probably going to pick up an 034 HFC in the next month or two and plan to add a "mini cat" for insurance against a P0420 CEL.
    this is what ill be doing on a straight test pipe. ill get the two year inspection just in case right before the install though.
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    Maybe a group buy or a black Friday sale?

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    twist my arm!

    I was in the middle of typing up a nice post, but yeah, black friday deal: $25 for either 90* or straight, BUT ONLY ON FRIDAY!

    Thats the jam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StratJohn View Post
    twist my arm!

    I was in the middle of typing up a nice post, but yeah, black friday deal: $25 for either 90* or straight, BUT ONLY ON FRIDAY!

    Thats the jam.
    I'm in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StratJohn View Post
    twist my arm!

    I was in the middle of typing up a nice post, but yeah, black friday deal: $25 for either 90* or straight, BUT ONLY ON FRIDAY!

    Thats the jam.
    Hmmm, I'll have to swing by Friday to pick one of these up. Maybe price out some C/Os and a tune too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StratJohn View Post
    twist my arm!

    I was in the middle of typing up a nice post, but yeah, black friday deal: $25 for either 90* or straight, BUT ONLY ON FRIDAY!

    Thats the jam.
    Ill be buying one with this Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNasty777 View Post
    Hmmm, I'll have to swing by Friday to pick one of these up. Maybe price out some C/Os and a tune too.
    Closed friday, swing by monday?

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    does the p0420 put your car in limp mode?
    interior crocodile alligator, i drive a chevrolet movie theatre?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StratJohn View Post
    Closed friday, swing by monday?
    What time are you open until? I get out of work at 4:30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StratJohn View Post
    twist my arm!

    I was in the middle of typing up a nice post, but yeah, black friday deal: $25 for either 90* or straight, BUT ONLY ON FRIDAY!

    Thats the jam.
    ooh , yes, the jam indeed.
    how might i participate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fitMINT View Post
    does the p0420 put your car in limp mode?
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waldo1324 View Post
    ooh , yes, the jam indeed.
    how might i participate?
    as in will the online price be reduced as im about 1500 miles away from the NY
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNasty777 View Post
    What time are you open until? I get out of work at 4:30.
    Til 5p technically, but I'm often there til 5:30-6. Swing by, we gotcha covered.

    Waldo1324, the jam is simple: Hit our website on friday, at the same link I posted initially, and the price will be the $25 special. You'll also get a gold star for participation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StratJohn View Post
    Til 5p technically, but I'm often there til 5:30-6. Swing by, we gotcha covered.

    Waldo1324, the jam is simple: Hit our website on friday, at the same link I posted initially, and the price will be the $25 special. You'll also get a gold star for participation.
    Do I need to use a code or anything friday? Also I am assuming it is plus shipping. Cheers.
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    Can we get it with the flat rate 5$ shipping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StratJohn View Post
    I was in the middle of typing up a nice post, but yeah, black friday deal: $25 for either 90* or straight, BUT ONLY ON FRIDAY!
    Sometimes it pays to hesitate. Perfect, now I'm in. Someone post in this thread tomorrow so I get a reminder.
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