Feedback on ST Performance Coilover Suspension

[nycgtm]

Very tempting . . .
I have a DAILY B5 S4 Avant, roads are pretty smooth where I live but when I drive up to NYC (often), car does take a beating. I was wondering if these are good enough, I mean they do come with a 5 year warranty.
Opinions, suggestions welcome. Don't be a Herb with useless comments please.

http://www.ecstuning.com/ES2129989/

[Turbwhistle]

Hey man, search. I am sure there are plenty of threads with this exact topic. I have them on my a4, and they are just dandy, now search....go.

[ThePeoplesChamp]

I daily drive from Central NJ to Westchester. The stance is great, ride quality is perfect for a dd, and handling is improved. However, it still is a little soft for me in the front. I would definitely buy these again for the price. Good luck

[Turbwhistle]

I feel they are a tad soft also, but i may try different springs to change the stiffness.

[topquarkpc]

different car/platform but i have it on my wife's wagon (mk4) and felt it was little too soft for me as well...i had pss9 on there before...
i have stasis track (i think) on my b5 s4 avant and like it very much...i think the spring rate is 700 f / 800 r. these were optional springs that they offered separately.
also have 600 r / 700 r but i haven't tried those yet.
hope that helps.

[GunSupplier]

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...r-truck-status

Some input there.

[bgzs4]

To me they are perfect for a street car

And buy them from AMI, Ecs is wiggity wack

[nycgtm]

Hey man, search. I am sure there are plenty of threads with this exact topic. I have them on my a4, and they are just dandy, now search....go.

I did that. I guess your thinking Herb = edible plants in this case since you posted what I asked not to post.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...r-truck-status
Some input there.

Saw that, and I posted there before you posted here LOL. But thank you.

Other posts, thanks, helpful. I guess spring rate will make a difference since as is I have a pretty heavy car.

[S4 00 2.7]

Very happy with mine. Also bought them from AMI.

EDIT: I just noticed that ECS is offering Free Shipping on their ST's.

Cant go wrong with either ECS or AMI.

[Turbwhistle]

[QUOTE=nycgtm;7034120]I did that. I guess your thinking Herb = edible plants in this case since you posted what I asked not to post.

The fact that you are going to car someone a herb because you are to lazy to search for results is just dumb. You don't search for a topic that is very commonly discussed, and you think because you asked people not to say something they shouldn't. You obviously don't understand the forums. It is to help people out, having 100 threads about the same thing doesn't help because useful information is spread out. If you had a specific question, and the threads haven't been posted in for a while, then i would understand, but since you are asking a general question, this thread is useless. Then the fact you are calling people names because you created a useless thread that wont truly help others unless the same amount of people post the same amount of there opinion's that are helpful. Otherwise, this thread is indeed useless. So, please next time search, or just search better.

[RedB5S4]

Everyone loves these. But I don't know that because there aren't 500 threads on it or anything

[MDJ]

I'm completelly satisfied with my STs. Perfect for street use and I'm sure they'd be fine at the track once in a while.

I bought mine through AMI and had a perfectly satisfying shipping/customer service experience. Great company to work with.

If you do buy them, make sure your suspension is under load before torquing the bolts, otherwise you'll wind up with an embarassing, annoying rattle.

[01nogaro]

Great set up for the money. I have Stasis Street sports on my avant and those are softer than the ST's.

[GramCracker]

I held off on getting these for my Avant, I did buy them but sold them shortly after they arrived, because in the end I wanted Avant specific coilovers. After all, there are Avant specific coilovers for a reason

That being said, I have heard nothing but good things about these from the people who bought them. AMI was also an extremely good company to do business with

[Turbwhistle]

I know they have avant specific st's for a4's.

[Corrado]

I ordered a set from AMI back in September via the group buy for $749 shipped.

I haven't had the chance to install them yet, can anyone chime in and tell me if I should replace anything else while I'm in there??? Going to do ST coilovers and control arms at the same time. What about the strut mounts or any other wear items?

[GunSupplier]

I ordered a set from AMI back in September via the group buy for $749 shipped.

I haven't had the chance to install them yet, can anyone chime in and tell me if I should replace anything else while I'm in there??? Going to do ST coilovers and control arms at the same time. What about the strut mounts or any other wear items?

I mean yeah, you should replace the strut mounts since you're in there and they cost like $10. Since you're already doing control arms along with coilovers, there's really not much more there to do. You should be good!

[Corbett]

Ok I just bought this set and had them installed last week. I absolutely love them. You know what else I did when I was deciding which ones I wanted? I FREAKING SEARCHED THE FORUMS. There are a million threads about these already. Honestly, I dont think people deserve to be allowed to even have a thread like this if they are too lazy to search.

[McGovs2.7TB5]

I love them on my DD avant.

[nycgtm]

Thank you all for the great opinions, suggestions, and feedback. Seems like the way to go, I'll be ordering mine asap. As for ECS vs. AMI, now that's another whole thread
As for the "search" issue, sure there are a few million ( at least), but not too many about an S4 Avant asking for a little feedback. Geez, how many times have you posted and it was done before? Go relax and blow your k03's before you blow something else in this thread. Thanks!
And if you can't take humor and a joke (above) then maybe you need to stay off these forums and go get a buddy to take your panties off cause they are all up in a bunch.

[nycgtm]

Yeah, stirring up the pot a little. Addind a couple of hundred bucks, total of $1075 are these worth it?

http://www.awe-tuning.com/products/a...coilovers.html

[Aggv]

Unless you're tracking your car regularly (real track, not drag strips) there really is no reason not to get the ST's. The value is hard to beat.

[GunSupplier]

Yeah, stirring up the pot a little. Addind a couple of hundred bucks, total of $1075 are these worth it?

From a performance standpoint?: No. The STs and the H&Rs will perform VERY similarly. Any coilover less than $1500 (besides maybe Vogtland GTs) I consider to be "Level 1" performance coils. Basically, you're getting a basic coilover setup that will improve handling and is tuned well, but not tuned for a race-track. More serious stuff is KW V3s, Motons, Ohlins, *perhaps* PSS9s, but they aren't quite motorsport grade.

From a warranty standpoint?: Maybe? If you truly value a lifetime warranty, then sure, maybe the H&Rs are worth it, but the 5-years ST warranty is alright. Not as awesome as the 10 year warranty Vogtland provides, but better than the 1-year warranties other companies provide.

I'm telling you right now that if you drive in NYC often, you genuinely want something that is on the comfortable side, and you'll want to keep the height at reasonable levels. "Reasonable" = not m0Ar low. Something considered "soft" on perfect SoCal roads, is almost unacceptably harsh on NYC's pothole ridden streets.

Some of the STs appear to be suffering from clunking, like old Vogtlands did. Also:

The newer stuff [newer Vogtlands] isn't quite as good as the older stuff, and is identical to the ST suspension, which has been hit or miss with us lately.

Been pushing Eibach now, which uses the same shocks the original Vogtland kits did, which were very highly regarded.

Something to keep in mind, I guess.

Unless you're tracking your car regularly (real track, not drag strips) there really is no reason not to get the ST's. The value is hard to beat.

And I agree with this, to the point that if someone is seriously tracking their car on a road course, any of the so-called "budget" coilovers are basically eliminated. You'll want something a little more stout/adjustable for that.