ACHTUN!NG | The Audi Q3/Q5/Q7 Thread

[Dion@Achtuning]

For our local enthusiasts!

[neils]

How safe are are the H&R springs in salt and snow? I had 2 Eibach springs snap on me while driving, doing decent damage to my rims. After some research, found out that while other cities use sand and other products to deal with ice, montreal uses salt which corrodes quicker. Furthermore I read that Eibach uses some sort of protective covering to help with squeaks and salt can get under that covering and rust starts to build and eat away at the spring.

So, anyone drive with these springs in winter, to the point where snow packs the wheel wells solid?

Thanks


QUOTE=Dion@Achtuning;8508423]Safe? Absolutely. Bouncier ride? Subjective. And there is always a chance stock shocks will prematurely wear when adding just a spring kit. I have yet to see that happen. (Doesn't mean it doesn't) As long as you're prepared for what could happen and would prefer to have that look then it's a non issue.[/QUOTE]

[neils]

How does one remove the bolts without damaging the threads? I plan to put on the spacers with rims in the summer and take them off for OEM rims for winter. If one were to use pliers to undo the stock bolts it would strip the threads. Assuming these longer bolts just thread right into the hub.
Thanks

[Dion@Achtuning]

How safe are are the H&R springs in salt and snow? I had 2 Eibach springs snap on me while driving, doing decent damage to my rims. After some research, found out that while other cities use sand and other products to deal with ice, montreal uses salt which corrodes quicker. Furthermore I read that Eibach uses some sort of protective covering to help with squeaks and salt can get under that covering and rust starts to build and eat away at the spring.

H&R springs are powder coated as well to protect against corrosion but ANY spring (including OEM springs) have the potential to wear over time, especially in places where corrosive materials (like salt) are used. Just need to keep those suspension parts as clean as possible.

How does one remove the bolts without damaging the threads? I plan to put on the spacers with rims in the summer and take them off for OEM rims for winter. If one were to use pliers to undo the stock bolts it would strip the threads. Assuming these longer bolts just thread right into the hub.
Thanks

A standard 17mm hex socket will suffice. There shouldn't be a concern over damaging threads while removing a bolt if you're using the correct tools. Follow OEM torque specs as well. (Or simply seek professional assistance for install.)

[neils]

Thanks Achtuning for answering my questions below and helping me work towards my own Hartmann setup on my Q7. One more question, why not swap out to longer studs (to accomodate spacers) instead of recommending longer bolts. From what I read, bolts are a real pain to deal with, since wheel installation becomes more troublesome during wheel swaps between seasons (winter/summer). Mechanics tend to like to slap a wheel onto some studs, let it hang while they airgun the nuts on. I can see them swearing if they had to eyeball a bolt into a hole while bearing the weight of a 22" wheel with spacer, weighlifting it up onto the hub while the car is on a lift, and then hold it there while shooting for that hole. At that point, looks like a 2 person job for sure.

Can one simply remove the stock OEM studs from the rear hubs (for Q7 application), swap out to longer studs, and then slap on the spacer and wheel ??

Of course by doing it this way, this complicates the next season wheel swap, as the longer studs in the rear would need to be removed again to go back to OEM studs, to put back on the OEM wheels without spacers.

I really want to avoid using the spacers in our harsh winters.

Your thoughts ??

Thanks !!

H&R springs are powder coated as well to protect against corrosion but ANY spring (including OEM springs) have the potential to wear over time, especially in places where corrosive materials (like salt) are used. Just need to keep those suspension parts as clean as possible.



A standard 17mm hex socket will suffice. There shouldn't be a concern over damaging threads while removing a bolt if you're using the correct tools. Follow OEM torque specs as well. (Or simply seek professional assistance for install.)

[Skyler@Achtuning]

This may help:
http://shop.achtuning.com/Hartmann-W...-for-Audi.aspx

[neils]

Thanks for all the useful info Achtuning !! So if I were to remove my studs permanently to move to bolts, and only wanted to have the H&R spacers on with the Hartmann 22's in the summer, and return to stock OEM 20's without spacers for the winter, could I run a full bolt only setup ? In other words, if I move to the recommended 58mm bolts with a 23mm spacer + 22s for the Q7, can I assume that for stock, I would use a 58mm-23mm=35mm?? If so, then H&R only make a 30mm and 37mm, so what would be my other option for stock bolts ? I really want to avoid having to re-install the studs every winter.

Thanks
Neil

[Skyler@Achtuning]

I would go with our 37mm bolts, 2mm too long should not be a problem on the Q7. The other option is the Audi dealership but likely at 2-3x the cost of our bolts.
Thanks Neil!

[wahpao]

^ That Quattroworld.com Audi Q7 TDI does have the adaptive air suspension, then lowered beyond factory specs using Ross-Tech's VCDS cable and software.
http://shop.achtuning.com/HR-29107-1...s-Audi-Q7.aspx

Dion, could you give some more info/link to lowering through Vag Com. Also could you give me a price quote on the Q7 peelers with stock specs in titanium finish. thanks

[Dion@Achtuning]

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[iconoclast]

any photos of the PQ6 "Peeler" wheels in 22" on a Q7?
i noticed these are et50 and 9.5" when stock are et44 and 10".
the stock wheels are pretty conservative and recessed... do these 22" sit recessed in the wheel well?

[Dion@Achtuning]

i noticed these are et50 and 9.5" when stock are et44 and 10".
the stock wheels are pretty conservative and recessed... do these 22" sit recessed in the wheel well?

Compared to those stock specs you list, yes by 12mm. Sadly, no images of the 22" HRS6-204s on a Q7 yet but the pic below should give you an idea as the Hartmann HRS4-252s share the same spec...



We also stock H&R wheel spacers for the Q7 which were added to this same Q7 to achieve a better over-all "stance".



( ^ a pair of 23mm spacers were added, front and rear.)

[Dion@Achtuning]

Brett picked up a 20" set of Hartmann HRS6-204-GS wheels since our MAs are still on order then had them powder-coated a custom color. Now he's back to have his stock tires swapped over to his new custom colored Hartmann Wheels!

[Dion@Achtuning]

Anyone interested in a set of 20" 5x130 Hartmann HRS4-252 wheels powder-coated silver?
• 20×9 et25
• 5×130
• $1199 for a set of 4!

[AudiGunner1]

Has anyone gone with 30mm back and 23mm front wheel spacers on 22 inch rims? I replaced the 21 inch rims (295/35R21) on my 2009 Q7 S-Line with 22 inch rims (285/35R22) as replacement tires on the 21 inch rims was ridiculously expensive in my opinion and I found a good 'wheels+tires' deal on the 22s. I now want to add wheel spacers and am debating which ones to get. 23mm back and 18mm front seems a popoular choice but I've also seen 30mm back and 18mm front or even 23mm back and front. If anyone out there has gone with 30mm back and 23mm front on 22 inch rims I'd love to hear from you as to whether it's an appropriate option and if you have photos even better. That said if for any reason anyone knows why this would be a bad option please let me know why. Any and all feedback appreciated. Cheers!

[Dion@Achtuning]

Will ultimately depend on the profile of your tires and ride height... We bumped down from a 23mm to an 18mm on a lowered (via VCDS) Q7 because at full lock, there would be tire rub with the inner fender liner.

[Dion@Achtuning]

Achtuning is excited to announce the arrival of two NEW additions to the Hartmann Wheel line-up!

HRS7-163-MA:M (matte-anthracite/machined)



The Hartmann HRS7-163-MA:M is currently available in the following specs:

* 19×8.5 +25, $310 ea.
* 19×8.5 +38, $310 ea.

HRS6-091-MA:M (matte-anthracite/machined)



The Hartmann HRS6-091-MA:M is currently available in the following specs:

* 19×8.5 +25, $310 ea.
* 19×8.5 +38, $310 ea.
* 20×9 +29, $370 ea.
* 20×9 +40, $370 ea.

As with all high quality Hartmann Wheels, factory Audi center caps and factory wheel bolts are compatible. These are IN STOCK, ready to ship! Place an online order by visiting our online store or call 425-895-0000.

[Dion@Achtuning]

Wanting to use up the tread on the new-ish tires, Kenneth had us swap out his stock rollers for the new Hartmann HRS7-163s, 19x8.5 +25.

[Dion@Achtuning]

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[Dion@Achtuning]

A set of 20" Hartmann HRS6-091 wheels were installed on a local SQ5 for this Winter season...




Wheel spec installed is 20x9 +29. We also installed a set of H&R's 15mm wheel spacers out back to even out the stance a bit.

[particulardude]

^ That Quattroworld.com Audi Q7 TDI does have the adaptive air suspension, then lowered beyond factory specs using Ross-Tech's VCDS cable and software. The only option we have to lower a Q7 that isn't sitting on air is H&R's Sport Spring kit which brings the vehicle down approximately 1.4" up front and 1.3" out back.

Been digging to find the exact specs on the Quattroworld Q7 suspension - so you're saying this stance was achieved by recoding the air suspension and adding spacers? No other suspension parts? Thanks for any info!

[Dion@Achtuning]

^ correct.

[particulardude]

Amazing - I don't think it could look any better.

[Brian@AudiMV]

Dion,

Do you remember what size those tires were? They look to have a little more sidewall than the OEM spec 20s, but I didn't think you could go any higher without touching suspension components.

A set of 20" Hartmann HRS6-091 wheels were installed on a local SQ5 for this Winter season...




Wheel spec installed is 20x9 +29. We also installed a set of H&R's 15mm wheel spacers out back to even out the stance a bit.

[q5 dave]

pm'd

[Dion@Achtuning]

^ Replied.

Do you remember what size those tires were?

Sorry, I sure don't! We wouldn't tell our customers to deviate from factory spec though and these are dedicated Winter tires...

[Brian@AudiMV]

Bummer, thanks! I can almost make out the sidewall on the tire leaning, but can't tell if it's a 255 (factory) or 265. I must assume it is a 255 per your reply.

Appreciate the prompt reply, those 20s are gorgeous!

^ Replied.



Sorry, I sure don't! We wouldn't tell our customers to deviate from factory spec though and these are dedicated Winter tires...

[j_vincent]

A set of 20" Hartmann HRS6-091 wheels were installed on a local SQ5 for this Winter season...




Wheel spec installed is 20x9 +29. We also installed a set of H&R's 15mm wheel spacers out back to even out the stance a bit.

By any chance, these available for the Q3?

Thanks.

[Dion@Achtuning]

We haven't seen a Q3 in-house yet to be able to determine fitment with any our wheels. That said, looking at specs available with other wheel brands, I have a feeling there would not be any fitment issues. Wanna be the first?

[Dion@Achtuning]

I can almost make out the sidewall on the tire leaning, but can't tell if it's a 255 (factory) or 265. I must assume it is a 255 per your reply.

LOL, duh... I didn't think to look at the original (larger) image to see if size was visible. It is. Definitely a 255.

[brucebanner]

any sales soon? really interested in getting HRS6-204 22". Do these come in sivler finish or just the anthracite finish? hoping you guys have a sale soon, can you get me a quote with some tires, install and everything?

[Dion@Achtuning]

Email us ([email protected]) and we will gladly send a quote.

No sales expected any time soon. In fact it's pretty rare that new Hartmann Wheels are on sale. Check out our "blem" or "garage sale" section for deals every now and then.

[q5 dave]

Will you have the 20" Hartmann HRS6-091 in stock anytime soon? last i heard it was "sometime this summer"

[Dion@Achtuning]

Unfortunately that ETA hasn't changed. Are you on our call-back list? If not, contact us (by phone or email) so we can put you on it!

[juanduro]

Hi,
I just purchased a 2015 Q7 Premium Plus. Also just got the S-Line 21" wheels and arches. I think the front looks ok bu the rears are (after the wheel arches) too tucked in. My questions is : are there any issues with only installing the H&R 23mm rear spacers ?

[Dion@Achtuning]

My questions is : are there any issues with only installing the H&R 23mm rear spacers ?

Not at all!

[juanduro]

Hi i order the 23mm spacers with 58mm bolts and was so exciter to install them today. But when i opened the box found the spacers :-) but the bolts say 48mm. :-( will they fit? Or should i request for the longer ones. Bummer :-(

[Dion@Achtuning]

^ Saw this after our phone call this morning. Sorry again for the inconvenience - incorrect bolts were indeed pulled. We've got that replacement order already en route!

[Dion@Achtuning]

One of our most popular, the Hartmann HTT-256-MA:M wheels are back in stock at Achtuning! Call 425-895-0000 or order online by clicking the image above!

[Jupiteraudi]

I believe it was mentioned earlier in this thread but I'd like to confirm the oem bolt length for a 2015 Q7 TDI. Are they 35mm? I'm on the 21' peelers.