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    What RPM for a rolling pull?

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    If you're going to do a XXmph rolling pull, what RPM would you hold at before you smashed the throttle? So for example's sake - a 55 to 120 pull/race.. downshift and hold at what RPM to get the biggest bang from the start?

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    I would probably just downshift to 3rd and let the DSG select the proper rpm @ that speed. Guessing 4-5k rpm??
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    I think for your speed, whatever gear gets you 3krpm, thats where you should be prepped to roll from. I think the car has the hardest pull at from there forwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StratJohn View Post
    I think for your speed, whatever gear gets you 3krpm, thats where you should be prepped to roll from. I think the car has the hardest pull at from there forwards.
    From my logging with the pulley I see the largest boost roll in around 3500, so I would def be at 3k+
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    great. thanks..

    after months of shit talking - we have multiple "put your money where you mouth is" highway pulls today at the office during lunch. i am going against the following cars - 2008 M3, 2007 RS4, stock gt-r, 2010 m5, and a 2007 sti. oh, and i'm also running my renntech S65 in case my s4 gets knocked out. i really wanted to get an idea what rpm i should be at instead of learning as i go - because these a-holes will never shut up if i lose. yes, my CEO is awesome.. extended lunch an hour for this.. it's been planned for weeks.

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    haha, thats not bad. Pics/results/etc.

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    That's awesome!! Looking forward to the results. Do any of you guys have a go-pro? Would love to see vids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie View Post
    great. thanks.. after months of shit talking - we have multiple "put your money where you mouth is" highway pulls today at the office during lunch.
    Sounds like fun - be careful out there.

    The GT-R and your S65 are going to PWN ALL, but it will be fun to hear (and hopefully see) the results.

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    For 55 mph I'd say 3rd. You're making peak power at the top of the rev range but at 55 youll be over 6k rpms already where torque is falling off. If it was at any lower speed I'd say second.....

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    funny, just last night I was playing with an E46 M3. We were at a light, and I let him make an ass out of himself, as I pulled out of the light like an old lady. Next light, when I saw it changing from the other direction, I looked over and smiled and he knew it was on. I pulled like 2-3 cars on him out of the hole, twice, with perfect shifts, my car is stock. As we proceeded to the hwy, he wanted to keep going....So I did a few 55-9X pulls; 3500 in 4th>3rd and got a nice little jump and he stayed his nose to my tail until I backed off. It was all cool, and we both really wanted to see how they measured up. We did this a couple times and the same results each time. He was def stock from the looks of it and was a 6mt too. As we all know that car is much different over 65-70, but out of the hole, he had no chance. He exited giving me the thumbs up. I'm not much of "racer", but it was fun.

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    it's going to be fun.. but i think the gt-r is going to make my s4 look slow. hence me bringing the s65 out of the garage.

    i'm sorry to say this, but my CEO being slightly paranoid, said if he sees anyone videotaping him racing he'll cancel it. so no gopro's allowed (i brought mine anyway, but dont' think i'll risk it). i will obviously post detailed results - we're bringing someone out to take notes of the pulls so no one looses track of who beats who. leaving in 10 mins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie View Post
    it's going to be fun.. but i think the gt-r is going to make my s4 look slow. hence me bringing the s65 out of the garage.

    i'm sorry to say this, but my CEO being slightly paranoid, said if he sees anyone videotaping him racing he'll cancel it. so no gopro's allowed (i brought mine anyway, but dont' think i'll risk it). i will obviously post detailed results - we're bringing someone out to take notes of the pulls so no one looses track of who beats who. leaving in 10 mins
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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBiz View Post
    You guys hiring?
    LOL!! Big +1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie View Post
    it's going to be fun.. but i think the gt-r is going to make my s4 look slow. hence me bringing the s65 out of the garage.

    i'm sorry to say this, but my CEO being slightly paranoid, said if he sees anyone videotaping him racing he'll cancel it. so no gopro's allowed (i brought mine anyway, but dont' think i'll risk it). i will obviously post detailed results - we're bringing someone out to take notes of the pulls so no one looses track of who beats who. leaving in 10 mins
    Looking forward to the results. Man that modded s65 must have some insane torque and power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffc31337 View Post
    Looking forward to the results. Man that modded s65 must have some insane torque and power.
    yeah the s65's power is just plain stupid. 581rwhp, 749rwtq.

    quick update, gt-r urinated on my s4. i hate that car (the gt-r). i'm running gt-r with s65 as the last race in 5 mintutes,, had to get more gas lol
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    meh, he has faster car but he might not be faster/better driver..anybody can mash the pedal and let the car do work/shifting for you in the short straight line run.

    heck last time I was at VIR I was passing R8s and lotuses in my stock Mazda RX-8...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie View Post
    yeah the s65's power is just plain stupid. 581rwhp, 749rwtq.

    quick update, gt-r urinated on my s4. i hate that car (the gt-r). i'm running gt-r with s65 as the last race in 5 mintutes,, had to get more gas lol
    Good death :) Looking forward to hearing how the s4 did against the m3, sti etc!

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    OK gentlemen, here's how it went. I'm starving right now.. but posting on the audi forum always takes priority over heath/food/shelter.

    we did runs from 55 - 110, or if 2+ car lengths were gained, it was over. I'm going to try to keep this as organized as possible..

    MY S4 Vs..

    me vs 08 m3 (stock) - I won by 1 car length
    me vs 2007 RS4 (exhaust, tune) - I won by a little over 1 car length
    me vs 2010 m5 (stock) - I won by less than 1 car length
    me vs sti (tune, exhaust, stock turbo) - I won by almost 2 car lengths
    me vs stock gt-r - he won by over 2 car lengths. i expected it, but i still cried a little

    My S65 vs..
    M3, M5, sti, rs4 - all were mercilessly raped by way more than 2 car lengths. wasn't even fun (ok, yes it was)
    me vs gt-r - i won by more than 1 car length (we ran to 150)

    notable races:
    m3 beat rs4 by almost a whole car (that race sounded awesome) i expected it to be more even, but that's what happened, no redo's
    m5 beat m3 - very close
    m3 beat sti
    rs4 beat sti
    gt-r beat everything except my s65

    i went through 80 bucks of gas in the s65. s4 held it's own, but was the most heavily modded out of the regular car group. i ran in manual mode at first - but my f*%^#ing DSG short shifted early - so the rest i ran in drive in dynamic mode and it did fine. man what a day.. and now i'm supposed to get back to work??

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    Well done sir.

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    Nice man! Thanks for the recap - I take it they all have their tails between their legs now and are no longer flipping you shit?
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    Awesome, man!! Way to represent w/ the B8! Thread of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWS4Guy View Post
    Nice man! Thanks for the recap - I take it they all have their tails between their legs now and are no longer flipping you shit?
    lol, flipping me shit is an awesome expression. no sir, they aren't flipping me anymore shit.. althought they knew when i left the s4 here last night and got a ride home to get the s65 they were in for a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie View Post
    OK gentlemen, here's how it went. I'm starving right now.. but posting on the audi forum always takes priority over heath/food/shelter.
    Good answer!! ;-)


    Quote Originally Posted by zcd2.7t View Post
    The GT-R and your S65 are going to PWN ALL

    Another good answer!! (prediction?)

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    yes, good prediction. my CEO just printed out the info on the GT-R Switzer package and taped it to my office door.. lol. he does not like to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie View Post
    my CEO just printed out the info on the GT-R Switzer package and taped it to my office door.. lol. he does not like to lose.
    Well at least that would make the race closer!



    You should take the S65 to the drags some time, if you haven't already. It'll be tricky to launch, but your MPH would be insane - prolly 125 mph or more...

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    awesome!

    poor sti hahah
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcd2.7t View Post
    You should take the S65 to the drags some time, if you haven't already. It'll be tricky to launch, but your MPH would be insane - prolly 125 mph or more...
    11.09 secs, 127.10mph, 1.680 60 ft IMPOSSIBLE to launch. took me 5 tries

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillips2024 View Post
    awesome!

    poor sti hahah
    Prediction: STI either trades it in soon or goes for upgraded turbo

    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie View Post
    lol, flipping me shit is an awesome expression. no sir, they aren't flipping me anymore shit.. althought they knew when i left the s4 here last night and got a ride home to get the s65 they were in for a problem.
    Nice, I would have thought you had heard that expression before, but I guess it might be a southeastern/northwest thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie View Post
    great. thanks..

    after months of shit talking - we have multiple "put your money where you mouth is" highway pulls today at the office during lunch. i am going against the following cars - 2008 M3, 2007 RS4, stock gt-r, 2010 m5, and a 2007 sti. oh, and i'm also running my renntech S65 in case my s4 gets knocked out. i really wanted to get an idea what rpm i should be at instead of learning as i go - because these a-holes will never shut up if i lose. yes, my CEO is awesome.. extended lunch an hour for this.. it's been planned for weeks.
    You hiring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie View Post
    11.09 secs, 127.10mph, 1.680 60 ft IMPOSSIBLE to launch. took me 5 tries
    That's SICK!
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    Oh, and BTW - you hiring?

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    Dude, where the F do you work?

    I wasn't expecting that outcome, especially against the M5. The S4 is clearly no joke. This should have the Bimmer boys crying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBRmatt600 View Post
    Dude, where the F do you work?

    I wasn't expecting that outcome, especially against the M5. The S4 is clearly no joke. This should have the Bimmer boys crying.
    lol, i work at a marketing company with a CEO who's a die hard enthusiast. He even renamed the company to have the acronym "AMG" after his beloved s55. We have a speedometer worked into our logo - the theme of the whole company is race/car related. It's awesome

    i didn't expect the s4 to pull on the m5 either - i thought i would need the s65 to take it.. but by the time we hit 120 his front bumper was about even with my rear wheel. remember, it was stock.. i am not.. but it is what it is

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    Well done sir!

    Can't wait for next spring... GT-R time for myself :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie View Post
    i didn't expect the s4 to pull on the m5 either - remember, it was stock.. i am not.. but it is what it is
    Still, though, isn't the m5 like $90,000? S4 FTW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonzie View Post
    lol, i work at a marketing company with a CEO who's a die hard enthusiast. He even renamed the company to have the acronym "AMG" after his beloved s55. We have a speedometer worked into our logo - the theme of the whole company is race/car related. It's awesome

    i didn't expect the s4 to pull on the m5 either - i thought i would need the s65 to take it.. but by the time we hit 120 his front bumper was about even with my rear wheel. remember, it was stock.. i am not.. but it is what it is
    Even stock, I've driven my friends SMG M5 and it is a very fast car, especially over 100mph. I'm pretty pumped to hear that the S4 will take it.
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    Fonz, you think the plastidip had alot to do with your success?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trinacria View Post
    Fonz, you think the plastidip had alot to do with your success?
    I wouldn't say alot, but it definitely must have helped slightly


    Very interesting results, to say the least - your co-workers [especially your CEO] sound like awesome dudes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NWS4Guy View Post
    Prediction: STI either trades it in soon or goes for upgraded turbo

    Nice, I would have thought you had heard that expression before, but I guess it might be a southeastern/northwest thing
    Poor STi :) I don't enjoy to him loosing as a former R32 driver... (OK yes, I do!)



    @Fonzie: Are you guys planning to 0-100 races? I think your 4000 rpm launch control will eat them all :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by trinacria View Post
    Fonz, you think the plastidip had alot to do with your success?
    oh without a doubt. the ever so suttle texture of the plastidip acted like dimples in a golf ball - making me way more aerodynamic and helping me pick up an extra advantage :)

    Quote Originally Posted by r32breeze View Post

    @Fonzie: Are you guys planning to 0-100 races? I think your 4000 rpm launch control will eat them all :D
    we don't have any planned because we don't have a safe (and cop free) space for it with all those cars. i can tell you however i HAVE done 0-70 runs from a dig vs the RS4 and the M3.. i used launch control and beat them both pretty bad. never against the sti, m5 or gt-r though - i assume the gt-r would be the only one that would give me trouble

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    that mercedes sounds like a dangerous weapon. Insane fuel mileage eh.
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