this is why i ask myself why i bought a b5 s4

[smashed s4]

taking my car into 034 for the first real mod; a stage 1 custom tune.
take my car in wednesday, they start the inspection and i call thursday (today) and they say i have a bad EGT sensor on the passengers side, estimating me 400 bucks. i say hell no and i went searching for a cheaper way to fix the sensor. found a new sensor for 150, coming saturday. they install it for 120 (over priced OR WHAT?!).

all this for a silly STAGE 1 chip....

someone reassure me buying this b5;)

and the funny part is, this is such a small thing, i cant imagine what some people have to go through when their turbos blow or worse. cant wait for that day

[RedB5S4]

Haha welcome to the world of B5 S4s. That EGT sensor does come with a bottle of lube by the way.

You shouldn't have bought it. Now you're just a sucker like the rest of us

[smashed s4]

Haha welcome to the world of B5 S4s. That EGT sensor does come with a bottle of lube by the way.

You shouldn't have bought it. Now you're just a sucker like the rest of us

wow

[TConklin821]

explain this to me haha. lube?

'cause you're gettin screwed!

[UkuRiSh]

Custom tune ? Just code out , you don't need them for stage 1

[Sour]

Custom tune ? Just code out , you don't need them for stage 1

exactly..

Not sure why 030 wouldn't have just done that in the first place or at least suggested it, pretty brutal move..

[bigern45]

yep, while their in there have them code out the primary O2 sensors as well..

[thegame]

I got charged an hour and a half to have my EGT changed out at 034. So you got off light.

[1sadavant]

Changing egt's is a simple as changing any other sensor on the engine. You need to start exercising some judgement and invest in some tools, or this ownership is going to be a needlessly expensive one. Also learn to buy used, especially for something as fundamental as a stage 1 chip.

Enjoy!

[smashed s4]

is it that easy to diy? anyone have a diy?

[Sour]

is it that easy to diy? anyone have a diy?

just get them coded out along with your 02's save some money for what is really needed..

I'm sure there is a dyi check tech or search

[Rdp616]

If you don't know how to wrench, you really shouldn't own one of these (not directing that at the op) Unless you have the cash to pay someone to fix it. Just by changing sensors, gaskets, belts, hoses, etc, yourself. You'll save noticeable amounts of money.

[smashed s4]

If you don't know how to wrench, you really shouldn't own one of these (not directing that at the op) Unless you have the cash to pay someone to fix it. Just by changing sensors, gaskets, belts, hoses, etc, yourself. You'll save noticeable amounts of money.

saying the guy who has a sig "call me rich" ;) haha jk

yeah i hear ya. well im learning. i never knew until i came on these forums that b5 s4s were such project cars. call me ignant

[Rdp616]

saying the guy who has a sig "call me rich" ;) haha jk

yeah i hear ya. well im learning. i never knew until i came on these forums that b5 s4s were such project cars. call me ignant

Haha, yeah my sig DEFINITELY doesn't describe my bank account lol. And yes, these can definitely turn into "project cars" wether you want it to or not, sadly.

Before i bought mine i did research for awhile. I wanted to know exactly what i was getting into. The Diy's on here and other sites have helped me out a lot, along with reading about problems other people have had, and how they diagnosed them. My best advice would be to get a decent set of tools, Vag-Com, and a Bentley Manual .

[smashed s4]

i appreciate the advice as i am only into the first month of owning my b5. and i am JUST getting to learn all the baggage that comes with it haha. loving it so far though

i will definitely invest in tools, vag, and the manual.. everyone and their mother has told me that if i dont do at least half the maintenance myself, im gonna be broke so quick

[RolledMySTi]

someone reassure me buying this b5;)

Take a ride in a stage 3 car and you will know why you bought it

[99blueb5]

changing EGT's isn as easy as it sounds, one side is very easy(Pass) but the drivers side is a pain the the ass, prob took me an hour to do mine becase i had to modify and wrench and bend it a couple times to get the thing loose, still a pretty good deal of the part and install compared to most places

[S.Line.Power]

^ like

[thegame]

I just reread the first post. The passenger side EGT is 15 minutes to replace. The driver's side is when you either get creative or get frustrated and take it to a shop

[SEXICÄN]

I know what i was getting myself into when i bought the first one, so i figured this was cheap to own, so I bought a second one!

[zakario]

It's already been said here a million times but you need to do your own work. My S4 has cost me under $200 to own since January including oil changes and I bought it without any real maintenance records. I beat on it every time I drive it and it has 150k miles. I almost bought an avant as my second car since it's been so reliable.

[SEXICÄN]

It's already been said here a million times but you need to do your own work. My S4 has cost me under $200 to own since January including oil changes and I bought it without any real maintenance records. I beat on it every time I drive it and it has 150k miles. I almost bought an avant as my second car since it's been so reliable.

trying to be a baller like me i see!

[Yesmar]

haha its so funny especially now, the b5 s4 is a brutal catch 22. they can be had for cheap so everyone and their parents are buying them one, but its such an expensive hassle to maintain(most dont find out untill 3 days after they buy it). that youd have to be an idiot to own one or it must be your dream car.

enjoy. buy some tools, an extra car, and keep your credit good for when you have an actual problem on your hands, and it will happen, at the worst time too.

[zakario]

trying to be a baller like me i see!

definitely bro! haha I couldn't help but miss RWD and drifting so I got another BMW instead. I'm a BMW guy at heart but the B5 S4 is just too sick...definitely getting a clean avant as soon as I can afford it or I get another dog

[resiew]

where can you get egt sensor for 150$ ? they are "on sale" at 300$ on ecs

[goohead]

It's already been said here a million times but you need to do your own work. My S4 has cost me under $200 to own since January including oil changes and I bought it without any real maintenance records. I beat on it every time I drive it and it has 150k miles. I almost bought an avant as my second car since it's been so reliable.

You obviously have a slow s4

[Rdp616]

http://www.purems.com/products/product.php/II=2918

This is the cheapest i've seen (for a pair).

[Dutchsider]

If you can't do the work yourself, you shouldn't own one.

[zakario]

You obviously have a slow s4

Well I've only spent 200 on maintenance... but about half my car's value on go fast parts so far haha

[MDJ]

It's simple.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...%28For-6spd%29

Remove the hose from the MAF to the Y-pipe using flat band pliers (http://www.ecrater.com/p/3975836/rad...and-hose-clamp) or channel locks paired with some patience.

Unplug all three connectors at the firewall above the passenger side turbocharger. If you look at the 5th picture in the DIY link I posted, you'll see the EGT right in front of you. The braided harness leads right underneath the top of the y-pipe. It's 2x 10mm nuts holding the sensor on.

Absolutely no need to pay anyone to replace either of these sensors. No need for them at any tune level above stock, either. Personally, I opted to code my EGT sensors out along with the downstream O2 sensors. However, I have DPs and no cats in my exhaust. If you're retaining the stock exhaust for a while, I would talk to them about just coding the EGT sensors out. They are only there to protect the engine in the case of an extremely lean mix. Aside from that, there is the money factor...I'd be willing to bet it'd be cheaper to have them coded out in a revision than to have just one replaced. Not to mention, the other one WILL shit out eventually.

[wildbill]

Changing egt's is a simple as changing any other sensor on the engine. You need to start exercising some judgement and invest in some tools, or this ownership is going to be a needlessly expensive one. Also learn to buy used, especially for something as fundamental as a stage 1 chip.

Enjoy!

someone with intelligence!

[diabolical1]

changing EGT's isn as easy as it sounds, one side is very easy(Pass) but the drivers side is a pain the the ass, prob took me an hour to do mine becase i had to modify and wrench and bend it a couple times to get the thing loose, still a pretty good deal of the part and install compared to most places

... the truth sometimes hurts.

[wan2play]

If you can't do the work yourself, you shouldn't own one.

this
These cars are very unreliable. Now that the car are 10 years old somethign seems to break every month and the parts are way over priced...More expensive than MB, BMW, and Porsche with my whole sale discounts.

[Dutchsider]

this
These cars are very unreliable. Now that the car are 10 years old somethign seems to break every month and the parts are way over priced...More expensive than MB, BMW, and Porsche with my whole sale discounts.

I don't really agree with this. I do agree that the cost of having work done at a dealership on the B5 S4 is astoundingly expensive, but IMO, these cars can be kept relatively reliable as a DD if it's isn't having the sh*t kicked out of it regularly.

[foxhound720]

Treat any Euro car bad and call me and let me know if it is still reliable.

[Aggv]

I do agree that the cost of having work done at a dealership on the B5 S4 is astoundingly expensive, but IMO, these cars can be kept relatively reliable as a DD if it's isn't having the sh*t kicked out of it regularly.

Treat any Euro car bad and call me and let me know if it is still reliable.

Define "bad" foxhound ? I know how i drove my first car, so i can only imagine what some of the retards on here are doing to these vehicles.

I daily mine, 184k, 2nd pair of k03's, 25.5 mpgs, and it's usually the fastest car on the road. (being faster than most everything else with k03's is more a statement to the depressing shit area i live in) My S4 has been more reliable than my sisters 4.0 cherokee which has less miles

[foxhound720]

Define "bad" foxhound ? I know how i drove my first car, so i can only imagine what some of the retards on here are doing to these vehicles.

I daily mine, 184k, 2nd pair of k03's, 25.5 mpgs, and it's usually the fastest car on the road. (being faster than most everything else with k03's is more a statement to the depressing shit area i live in) My S4 has been more reliable than my sisters 4.0 cherokee which has less miles

I have 184k also. Nice dude. All wrong with mine is my power steering pump. "Bad" as in skipping maintenance, beating the shit out of it.

[williamr91]

This is a car you "learn" how to wrench on, it was an excuse to actually learn. Fortunately (shh she might hear) it has been a rock albeit low miles 109k. I love the car needs moar power but still a nice and fun dd, that is reliable thus far. Get EGT and rear 02' coded out, I'm surprised 034 didn't suggest that, as another member mentioned.

[awd2ks4]

yep, while their in there have them code out the primary O2 sensors as well..

You mean secondaries...

[VR6Bomber]

Changing egt's is a simple as changing any other sensor on the engine. You need to start exercising some judgement and invest in some tools, or this ownership is going to be a needlessly expensive one. Also learn to buy used, especially for something as fundamental as a stage 1 chip.

Enjoy!

yup.