Help! How do I make my b6 a4 3.0L go faster?! ECU HELP. HELP PLEASE.

[SIX19]

Ok,

I understand that nobody really has an answer for this topic, but I just want some insightful input. I bought my a4 2 months ago - not to drive fast, but for the snow in Boston and overall reliability (the tranny is rebuilt and the timing belt/water pump are new and under warranty). I now want to add some performance modifications and just make this thing more fun to drive and look cooler.

1. First of all, has anybody done a muffler delete mod to their audi? I think I am just going to chop the mufflers off of the exhaust pipes and add a 2.5" pipe and fill in the back bumper exhaust fillings. I will keep the resonator and hopefully this just adds a couple miles per gallon and a throaty sound to my car. Does anyone disagree with this or know anything else about doing this?

2. I know that ECM tuning is selling their ECU for like 90 bucks right now, is it worth it? Where and how do I tune it? What difference will it make?

3. What about LLtek's SpeedBoost Accelerator? Is it worth it? Can I have that AND the ECU? What difference will it make.

I am really hoping that there are some b6 3.0 enthusiasts out there who know about ALL of this. I really appreciate it guys. Let me know if you have any other ideas about cheap, good mods that either help my car with performance or just how it looks. I do not want to sacrifice any reliability.

[Audi 4 Life]

www.audirevolution.net has all the answers to your questions, just read through the threads and you'll learn everything you need to know.

[dumpedb5]

There isn't much you can do.

[nein-reis]

Every question you asked can be found with the search function.

1. Muffler delete mod? It will make no performance difference... just make it annoyingly loud and raspy without mufflers. All the restrictive bits (cats, headers, stock piping) will still be there. Will not effect your gas mileage whatsoever. Instead pick up a nice aftermarket catback system, I really liked the sound of the Milltek exhaust on my 3.0.

2. ECU tuning is a great way to get some power... on the 1.8T but on the 3.0 its not much of a increase and you will not feel the difference for long. I don't know anything about ECM... so I cant say weather or not its a quality flash or not, but if it is 90.00 might be worth it.

3. A few people tried out SpeedBoost accelerator a while back, there is a few threads on it. Most reviews tended to feel underwhelmed about them. Yes you could have that and a flash, the speed boost unit only increases throttle response through the drive by wire system, it does not add any maps, ecu tuning, or power.
What difference will it make? Read the ad for it...

As far as looks, start with a nice set of coil overs... best bang for the buck.

[mayhem]

About the best thing you can to enhance the performance of your 3.0 is to remove as much weight as possible from your car.

Or strap a blower onto the motor.

[beemercer]

JHM is working on some 3.0 parts (exhaust, downpipes, ecu tune, tcu tune, lwfw and clutch) that should do the trick

[AudiA4_20T]

JHM is working on some 3.0 parts (exhaust, downpipes, ecu tune, tcu tune, lwfw and clutch) that should do the trick

this. Check the 3.0 JHM thread on here. There is some good discussion about mods and such

[meistah]

JHM is working on some 3.0 parts (exhaust, downpipes, ecu tune, tcu tune, lwfw and clutch) that will most definitely do the trick

Fixed

[rollerton]

Typically if you've come here asking this question then there's nothing you can do to make that car faster to the extent that you probably want. The people who are really inclined to mod the 3.0 and are actually capable of doing it don't need to ask how to do it.
Fo you I suggest you Sell the 3.0 maybe Buy B5 S4.
I'm not kidding. Or buy a 1.8t and tune it.
For what it's going to cost you to add HP to the 3.0 you could keep it, drive it AND buy a cheap B5 S4 to mod.
JHM may be working on a great setup for the 3.0 but there's an gigantic market and supply for the 1.8 already, and even then you can rack up a decent bill for the basics.
I can't imagine what the 3.0 hardware/ tune will cost to match the same output as a Stage2-3 1.8 .

[motorsports916]

Ohhhhh rollerton... You will soon be enlightened

[meistah]

I can't imagine what the 3.0 hardware/ tune will cost to match the same output as a Stage2-3 1.8 .

around $500 for a JHM chip and you will be pulling on stage 2 1.8Ts all day. Just hang in there until it's released. Funny how these threads keep popping up.

[rollerton]

Ohhhhh rollerton... You will soon be enlightened

I've read it (some of it)! I love the idea...and I have a 3.0 / 6 Speed. I know it'll happen and the brave few who can afford to tune the 3.0 will rule, but how much will that 30Hp cost!? Not sure you can get 30Hp from just software from N/A 3.0 . I'm no expert though, but...seems like for 30-50 hp you're looking at software, full exhaust?, flywheel? and toss in a clutch, umm...intake?
How much are these!?

I think a big obstacle to a 3.0 full tune is the cost all around and the risk. I mean, if you mess up any part of a 1.8t during your modding there are a million places to get the parts. The head comes off in a few minutes really, everything is easy, and relatively cheap. But I spend $1600 on an exhaust and tune for my 3.0...what if it runs lean and burns a valve? Screwed. Literally Any mechanical failure on a 3.0 is catastrophic and working on them isn't really as amusing as a 1.8 .

[meistah]

I've read it (some of it)! I love the idea...and I have a 3.0 / 6 Speed. I know it'll happen and the brave few who can afford to tune the 3.0 will rule, but how much will that 30Hp cost!? Not sure you can get 30Hp from just software from N/A 3.0 . I'm no expert though, but...seems like for 30-50 hp you're looking at software, full exhaust?, flywheel? and toss in a clutch, umm...intake?
How much are these!?
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I think a big obstacle to a 3.0 full tune is the cost all around and the risk. I mean, if you mess up any part of a 1.8t during your modding there are a million places to get the parts. The head comes off in a few minutes really, everything is easy, and relatively cheap. But I spend $1600 on an exhaust and tune for my 3.0...what if it runs lean and burns a valve? Screwed. Literally Any mechanical failure on a 3.0 is catastrophic and working on them isn't really as amusing as a 1.8 .

Brave few? This isn't some shoddy tune being fired off. It's been in testing for months, hundreds of man hours and thousands of dollars in research have gone into this. It will not hurt your car, in fact your car will run better with it. (provided you have good plugs and coilpacks. Who knows how much HP it will make... frankly who cares, then tune itself gives you such a large performance boost. HP is just a numbers game these days, but I think 30hp is a very reasonable number from what Ive experienced on just the ECU tune alone. A stage 2+ 1.8 pulls on a stock 3.0. a JHM 3.0 pulls on a stage 2+ 1.8. That's good enough numbers for me. Based on the size of our exhausts already, to get very solid gains out of the 3.0 you only essentially NEED the chip and downpipes. Which should be in the range of $1000. At that point, you will be getting better gas mileage, running smoother, MUCH more performance, etc etc. I don't see the downsides to doing this. It is not expensive, it is not going to hurt your car.

Oh and those are the supersprint headers, a guy on AR bought them awhile ago. JHM MIGHT make a set of their own headers as the supersprint ones aren't too efficiently designed, but they will be tested with the tune regardless. I think they are pretty pricey though.

[GQ//S4]

Apparently rockets don't work well....

[SIX19]

rollerton, I even said I was new to the whole Euro scene (2 months)... I can bet you that I know more about cars than you do.. I am not here to fight or troll anyone - just trying to get some insight; yours was very bad. Meistah is known in the 3.0 b6 realm and I'll listen to him. I will most definitely pick up the JHM ecu and down-pipes.

Besides those two things, what else should I be looking into? And when do you think this tune will be ready to go? I really appreciate all of your help.

[meistah]

Rollerton's just skeptical, I don't blame him. Hasn't been anything available for this engine for nearly 10 years, and now all of a sudden there is. Those are a great starting point and are where you will see the most noticeable gain. At this point the 3.0 program from JHM is still very young, I imagine the hardware and software will become available in the next month or so? Email them and find out. If you get the tune and downpipes, and still want more, focus on other things before going further. Improve your handling, improve your braking. I found that just with the tune I'm braking a lot harder than I used to, so address those things next.

[rollerton]

My insight was very bad? How's that again? You know more about cars than I do...yet it was YOU who inquired about deleting the muffler!? Wow, good job, let us know how your muffler-less 3.0 works out. The exhaust on the 3.0 is surely sucking up some ponies. I've owned 30 to 40 water cooled VW's and Audis, several Porsches, and 50 to 60 other German autos and been working on cars for 20 years And I've literally never in my life paid anyone to work on my cars. I didn't disagree with anything anyone said, and I know JHM's tune will be phenomenal. My point and skepticism stems from the fact that I bet that most people will be a little hesitant to rip into a 3.0, maybe even only at first.
By "brave few that can afford to tune the 3.0" I meant that, again, a lot of people will be shy about tuning the 3.0 due to the relative difficulty (basically it's harder to work on than the 1.8t) and risk involved (anything that you break or any problem that arises will be harder and more expensive to fix than a 1.8t). I don't think the tune will hurt the car, but anytime you start modifying a car from stock you must be careful and smart.
Many people who can afford a 10 year old Audi are neither.
I'm not sure what I said that would lead anyone to think I had an issue with tuning the 3.0, I am enthusiastically 100% in favor of it.

[A4QuattroBum]

Holy shitballs... Search amigo. Search. I know you're new, but the OG 'Ziners will not hesitate to set you ablaze on here. My opinion is to do the basics: intake, exhaust, headers, reflash, whatever. It wouldn't hurt to lighten her up a bit by gutting the trunk, but many people on here probably wouldn't do that unless you're super serious about going fast. If all else fails, throw a damn supercharger on that mofo. PES makes one, but be prepared to drop some stacks on it.

And invest in a good flame suit if you don't feel like using the search function. I assure you that whatever questions you may have have been answered several times over, broseph. Only when you can't find your answer do you post something like this.

[road_tripper]

Who knows how much HP it will make... frankly who cares

Tell you what, send me $1000 and I'll send you a tune wirelessly to your ECU that will give you, hmm how much HP... who knows, and frankly who cares?

[meistah]

Tell you what, send me $1000 and I'll send you a tune wirelessly to your ECU that will give you, hmm how much HP... who knows, and frankly who cares?

My car went from being slower than a 6speed stage 2+ 1.8T to being faster than one, I don't care what it does on a dyno. Although I might dyno it once I have all the future bolt-ons that will become available, just to satisfy my own curiosity. I don't see the point of taking half a sentence that I wrote, putting it out of context, and then criticizing it. The rest of my sentence clarifies that statement.

In fact you have a 6spd 3.0, you should be happy that a company is making an inexpensive "go-fast" solution for you!

[ZimbutheMonkey]

About the best thing you can to enhance the performance of your 3.0 is to remove as much weight as possible from your car.

Or strap a blower onto the motor.

Or drive downhill...