Compiled Drive Select VAG-COM codes

[mobidutch]

I believe comfort is always "selected" when drive select isn't enabled

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When I enabled the setting to change drive select on my B8 A5, both Engine and Steering were set to Auto by default. I left steering on Auto but set the engine to Dynamic. Love it.

[NPuter]

When I enabled the setting to change drive select on my B8 A5, both Engine and Steering were set to Auto by default. I left steering on Auto but set the engine to Dynamic. Love it.

Yes, that's the default once drive select is enabled. I believe the car acts like comfort mode when ads is disabled.

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[AnotherJake]

Can anyone tell me what "offroad" mode does when enabled????

I've been playing with the "efficiency" mode and noticed only one difference then in "comfort" mode. When in "efficiency" mode and using cruise control, the following happens…..say you are driving at 60mph and have to slow down to 50 because of the car in front. You pass him and hit “resume”. The car ramps back up to 60mph. Well in “efficiency” mode after you hit “resume” the car takes twice as long to get back up to speed than if you were in “comfort”. That would save fuel in the long run anyway. That’s the only different I can tell.

[rlarsen]

Can anyone tell me what "offroad" mode does when enabled????

I've been playing with the "efficiency" mode and noticed only one difference then in "comfort" mode. When in "efficiency" mode and using cruise control, the following happens…..say you are driving at 60mph and have to slow down to 50 because of the car in front. You pass him and hit “resume”. The car ramps back up to 60mph. Well in “efficiency” mode after you hit “resume” the car takes twice as long to get back up to speed than if you were in “comfort”. That would save fuel in the long run anyway. That’s the only different I can tell.

Do you have a Q5 ?? - otherwise I don't think you'll get the offroad mode working.

[Franky_d]

Yes, this is right, i also experienced the same. One more thing - if you take your foot off the accelerator pedal, in efficiency mode it seems to roll much better instead of breaking down with the engine, like for example it does extremely well in dynamic mode.

Can anyone tell me what "offroad" mode does when enabled????

I've been playing with the "efficiency" mode and noticed only one difference then in "comfort" mode. When in "efficiency" mode and using cruise control, the following happens…..say you are driving at 60mph and have to slow down to 50 because of the car in front. You pass him and hit “resume”. The car ramps back up to 60mph. Well in “efficiency” mode after you hit “resume” the car takes twice as long to get back up to speed than if you were in “comfort”. That would save fuel in the long run anyway. That’s the only different I can tell.

[MDS]

Hi,

I've got an 2011 2.0 TFSI A4 Dynamik which does not come with ADS and is fitted with what I believe to be the MMI 3G Low.

I don't have a VAG-COM cable or the VCDS software (as my laptop is on the blink!) but I'm attempting to enable ADS without these! I've found instructions on how to enable the hidden menu via the SD1 slot and have successfully done that. I've then changed the 'carisma' setting from 0 to 5 via the MMI, rebooted and now I do see Drive Select as the first option in the menu screen however it is 'greyed out' so I can't change any of the options.

Looking at the instructions in the first post, I believe it may be because I haven't been able to change either Byte 7 ; Bit 5 change 0 to 1 or Byte 17 ; Bit 7 change 0 to 1 but I'm not 100% on that.

Does anyone have any ideas on if it is possible to enable this drive select menu item?

Thanks,
Mark

[junchen]

given the fact that vcds is now at version 14, has any one managed to code out the suspension error message on the DIS when an aftermarket coilover is being installed on a car with ADS?

Thanks in advance

[Townending]

For those of you that stiffened/tighten the steering wheel, what difference did it make?

My "issue" is that I have to turn the wheel too much to go in a direction when at speed. In my Armada, Xterra, and a buddy's e92 M3, where the 12 o'clock on the wheel is, that's roughly where you go when at speed. With my A4, I find myself turning the wheel way beyond these points to get the same turning angle. Example, I have to turn my A4's wheel to 8 o clock to make the same left turn that the rest of the cars only need me to turn the wheel to 9-10 o'clock.

So my question basically is, did it help with the sensitivity, or simply just add resistance?

[kl918]

Would adding ADS enable the possibility for swapping and controlling the s4 sport differential.

[kl918]

????

[booost]

I don't think so..

[n4matx]

Excellent - I have been pulling my hair out trying to get this the way I want. With your post I finally got the display right (channel 66 = 46), but I can't seem to get the default. I want it to be Individual and according to everything I read plus the little pop-up during the coding -- it should be 4. I currently have channels 63/64/65 set to 4 and am getting OFFROAD. 2015 RS5...pretty sure no off-roading will be done (on purpose anyway!).

Thoughts?????

[SDF1]

Guys I need your input on this.

I have a 2009 2.0T with ADS and Electric Suspension (NO MMI, just basic symphony III radio)
Comfort is NEVER used, Auto is on 99% of the time and Dynamic is on when I need it :)

Is it possible to change Comfort to Auto but with Stiffer steering and suspension? (So Same as Dynamic Minus the Engine into S Mode) ?

[rlarsen]

Guys I need your input on this.

I have a 2009 2.0T with ADS and Electric Suspension (NO MMI, just basic symphony III radio)
Comfort is NEVER used, Auto is on 99% of the time and Dynamic is on when I need it :)

Is it possible to change Comfort to Auto but with Stiffer steering and suspension? (So Same as Dynamic Minus the Engine into S Mode) ?

You need a MMI system to be able to control the individual mode.

[SDF1]

Anyway to enable Steering and Suspension in Auto mode then?

[rlarsen]

Anyway to enable Steering and Suspension in Auto mode then?

The coding of channel 63 to 66 is only the default selected switch option.

How the different options are set up, can't be changed. The options are depending of which hardware the car has - which you can get an overview over here:

[SDF1]

The problem is the car doesn't feel stable over bumps and is easily hydroplates when it's on auto. I must switch it to dynamic to get more grip on the road.

[Project Quattro]

So I've read through this and my ideal setup would be: engine and steering in sport mode, transmission in normal/D due to the traffic on my commute. I do not have MMI nor ADS, but I know that I can enable this through VCDS. It appears that, because I don't have MMI, I would have to lock the defaults for everything (engine, steering, trans) into dynamic in order to get the two desired things set that way. My question is: once that is done, is there a way to knock just the transmission out of sport mode and back into normal? I see a few references to shifting it into S to take it out of sport (counter intuitively), and I'm fine with that, just want to know if anyone has tried and confirmed this.


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[JeriQo]

so this will only be enabled with vag-com right?

[rlarsen]

so this will only be enabled with vag-com right?

Yes

[Franky_d]

An Important update on coding for FL cars (A4/A5/Q5)!

I've been trying to get retro-fitted ADS to work since end of 2012. Changes in Throttle and Gearbox response have been noticeable, but not Steering. With this new code Steering response is changing as well. FINALLY got it to function 100%!
Instead in byte 8, steering needs to be activated in Byte 11, bit 7. Source: http://www.audisport-iberica.com/for...t-by-marrones/



Complete coding for cars without MMI

address 09:
Byte 7 bit 5 Change 0 to 1 - Activates ADS
Byte 8 Bit 0 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Gearbox response difference in various ADS modes (only for Automatic transmission cars, otherwise leave as 0)
Byte 8 Bit 2 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Throttle response difference in various ADS modes
Byte 8 Bit 3 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Suspension (requires electro-adjustable shocks installed as hardware , otherwise leave as 0)
Byte 8 Bit 4 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Dynamic Steering Ratio (requires special steering rack with variable turning ratio installed as hardware, otherwise leave as 0)
Byte 8 Bit 5 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Sports Differential (required special differential installed as a hardware, otherwise leave as 0 )
Byte 11 Bit 7 Change 0 to 1 - Enable steering response difference in various ADS modes
Security access 20113, adaptation channel 66 -> change to 46 to enable Efficiency Mode.

address 44:
Byte 03, Bit 0, Change 0 to 1 - Enable ADS in steering module



Cars with MMI


address 09:
Byte 7 bit 5 Change 0 to 1 - Activates ADS
Byte 8 Bit 0 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Gearbox response difference in various ADS modes (only for Automatic transmission cars, otherwise leave as 0)
Byte 8 Bit 2 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Throttle response difference in various ADS modes
Byte 8 Bit 3 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Suspension (requires electro-adjustable shocks installed as hardware , otherwise leave as 0)
Byte 8 Bit 4 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Dynamic Steering Ratio (requires special steering rack with variable turning ratio installed as hardware, otherwise leave as 0)
Byte 8 Bit 5 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Sports Differential (required special differential installed as a hardware, otherwise leave as 0 )
Byte 11 Bit 7 Change 0 to 1 - Enable steering response difference in various ADS modes
Byte 17 Bit 7 Change 0 to 1 - Enables ADS in the MMI Display
Security access 20113, adaptation channel 66 -> change to 47 to enable efficiency

address 44:
Byte 03, Bit 0, Change 0 to 1 - Enable ADS in steering module

Hidden Menu:
car -> cardevicelist -> charisma - Check
car -> carmenuoperation -> charisma - Change from 0 to 5

[Mwhit02]

If I have a non-MMI equipped car, and want to just Enable Byte 8 Bit 2 (throttle response), What do I do for the Adaption (Security Access)? Still change all four channels to 3 (Dynamic)?

[jmcgeejr]

I have a 2011, enabled green screen, and then enabled all the charisma settings however it's greyed out on the MMI screen. Do I need to do a full VCDS program to get that work? Or is it only on later model A4? I have a 2011 Prestige I believe.

[Gunnark100]

I have a 2011, enabled green screen, and then enabled all the charisma settings however it's greyed out on the MMI screen. Do I need to do a full VCDS program to get that work? Or is it only on later model A4? I have a 2011 Prestige I believe.

You need vcds aswell.

[jmcgeejr]

You need vcds aswell.

Ah cheers, thanks.

[emilliviu]

Hello , I just did a retrofit from non-MMI to MMI 3g+ with Sim everything works well but I have a problem with ADS , I install the switch with individual and when I change to individual the car don't take the settings
what i choose in individual mode to MMI . still workig like is on default mode

[samps]

An Important update on coding for FL cars (A4/A5/Q5)!

I've been trying to get retro-fitted ADS to work since end of 2012. Changes in Throttle and Gearbox response have been noticeable, but not Steering. With this new code Steering response is changing as well. FINALLY got it to function 100%!
Instead in byte 8, steering needs to be activated in Byte 11, bit 7. Source: http://www.audisport-iberica.com/for...t-by-marrones/



Complete coding for cars without MMI

address 09:
Byte 7 bit 5 Change 0 to 1 - Activates ADS
Byte 8 Bit 0 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Gearbox response difference in various ADS modes (only for Automatic transmission cars, otherwise leave as 0)
Byte 8 Bit 2 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Throttle response difference in various ADS modes
Byte 8 Bit 3 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Suspension (requires electro-adjustable shocks installed as hardware , otherwise leave as 0)
Byte 8 Bit 4 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Dynamic Steering Ratio (requires special steering rack with variable turning ratio installed as hardware, otherwise leave as 0)
Byte 8 Bit 5 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Sports Differential (required special differential installed as a hardware, otherwise leave as 0 )
Byte 11 Bit 7 Change 0 to 1 - Enable steering response difference in various ADS modes
Security access 20113, adaptation channel 66 -> change to 46 to enable Efficiency Mode.

address 44:
Byte 03, Bit 0, Change 0 to 1 - Enable ADS in steering module



Cars with MMI


address 09:
Byte 7 bit 5 Change 0 to 1 - Activates ADS
Byte 8 Bit 0 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Gearbox response difference in various ADS modes (only for Automatic transmission cars, otherwise leave as 0)
Byte 8 Bit 2 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Throttle response difference in various ADS modes
Byte 8 Bit 3 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Suspension (requires electro-adjustable shocks installed as hardware , otherwise leave as 0)
Byte 8 Bit 4 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Dynamic Steering Ratio (requires special steering rack with variable turning ratio installed as hardware, otherwise leave as 0)
Byte 8 Bit 5 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Sports Differential (required special differential installed as a hardware, otherwise leave as 0 )
Byte 11 Bit 7 Change 0 to 1 - Enable steering response difference in various ADS modes
Byte 17 Bit 7 Change 0 to 1 - Enables ADS in the MMI Display
Security access 20113, adaptation channel 66 -> change to 47 to enable efficiency

address 44:
Byte 03, Bit 0, Change 0 to 1 - Enable ADS in steering module

Hidden Menu:
car -> cardevicelist -> charisma - Check
car -> carmenuoperation -> charisma - Change from 0 to 5

I don't see Bit 7 in Byte 11 under address 09. I have a 2014 Q5 (FL).

Any thoughts on this?

[NPuter]

I don't see Bit 7 in Byte 11 under address 09. I have a 2014 Q5 (FL).

Any thoughts on this?

You mean you don't see the check box? Rosstech may not have it there for your chassis. You can modify it manually in the binary box (refer to the bottom of my first post).

[samps]

You mean you don't see the check box? Rosstech may not have it there for your chassis. You can modify it manually in the binary box (refer to the bottom of my first post).

Ah forgot about that. Thanks!

I just realized too that I should look at the settings on my A4 as it has ADS from the factory.

[samps]

You mean you don't see the check box? Rosstech may not have it there for your chassis. You can modify it manually in the binary box (refer to the bottom of my first post).

I changed it manually and everything appears to have been set up fine. I did want to note for everyone:

My 2016 A4 Tiptronic with ADS from the factory only has Byte 8 Bit 0 checked - not Bit 2. FWIW. As such, I only set:

Byte 8 Bit 0 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Gearbox response difference in various ADS modes (only for Automatic transmission cars, otherwise leave as 0)


and not:

Byte 8 Bit 2 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Throttle response difference in various ADS modes

[Wattie0051]

Bringing this thread back to life again. I used to have a 3.0 tdi and turned ADS on no probs and could turn it on and off via mmi, however I have a 2.0 tdi now (non sat nav) and I can't get the hidden menu to activate, I've looked into this and it seems I don't have the right level of mmi, at this point I gave up but after reading this thread am I right in saying I can still do it but it will be stuck on wherever setting I chose via vcds and wouldn't be able to revert back unless I plug vcds back in or buy The buttons?
I don't want the steering or the suspension to be different I just want it the engine to be more responsive, can I still do it? Will I just follow the above instructions to turn it on without mmi?

[Parmageddon]

I've got some questions about my FL car, got most of this working but not the steering, I'd heard else-where that Byte 8 Bit 1 can help with this - any truth to this?

[Franky_d]

I've got some questions about my FL car, got most of this working but not the steering, I'd heard else-where that Byte 8 Bit 1 can help with this - any truth to this?

See post #181 above. The part about steering activation is in red. :)

[Parmageddon]

Hi Franky_D

Yes, I did follow this one. I activated Byte 11, bit 7 (though we had to do it manually as there was no tickbox on VCDS for this one) However the steering did not still become heavier. Interestingly though, in post #181, references a website link http://www.audisport-iberica.com/for...t-by-marrones/

this link mentions Byte 8, bit 1 0>1 for servotronic. I've seen it mentioned in some tutorials but not others so wondered if anyone knew if it worked before I go back to the garage and waste another £50 or so! :-)

thanks,

[Franky_d]

Hi Franky_D

Yes, I did follow this one. I activated Byte 11, bit 7 (though we had to do it manually as there was no tickbox on VCDS for this one) However the steering did not still become heavier. Interestingly though, in post #181, references a website link http://www.audisport-iberica.com/for...t-by-marrones/

this link mentions Byte 8, bit 1 0>1 for servotronic. I've seen it mentioned in some tutorials but not others so wondered if anyone knew if it worked before I go back to the garage and waste another £50 or so! :-)

thanks,

Hi,

The difference in steering response in different modes is not big at all. In Tesla S for example the difference is much, much more pronounced, it feels that the steering gets heavier and lighter. In Audi it feels that the steering counter-reacts or resists more or less when you try to turn the wheel left-right, but the wheel itself does not get heavier - a bit hard to explain. I tried my friend's A4 with ADS from the factory and it was as tiny of a difference as in case of mine retrofitted ADS.

Servotronic was a feature on Audis with hydrolic steering - pre-FL. For FL A4, A5, Q5 (electro-mechanical steering rack) Byte 8, bit 1 would not make any difference. Well, at least i tried it on my 2013 Q5 and 2014 A4 many times in various combinations and only changing Byte 11, bit 7 made a difference.

Try to drive more, i hope you start noticing the difference, it's not worth spending another £50, in my opinion.

[dropshadow]

Hi,

The difference in steering response in different modes is not big at all. In Tesla S for example the difference is much, much more pronounced, it feels that the steering gets heavier and lighter. In Audi it feels that the steering counter-reacts or resists more or less when you try to turn the wheel left-right, but the wheel itself does not get heavier - a bit hard to explain. I tried my friend's A4 with ADS from the factory and it was as tiny of a difference as in case of mine retrofitted ADS.

Servotronic was a feature on Audis with hydrolic steering - pre-FL. For FL A4, A5, Q5 (electro-mechanical steering rack) Byte 8, bit 1 would not make any difference. Well, at least i tried it on my 2013 Q5 and 2014 A4 many times in various combinations and only changing Byte 11, bit 7 made a difference.

Try to drive more, i hope you start noticing the difference, it's not worth spending another £50, in my opinion.

Having driven an allroad with Drive Select from the factory back-to-back with an allroad that had Drive Select coded in via VCDS, there is a big difference. OE Drive Select steering in Dynamic mode is noticeably heavier than the steering on a car with Drive Select coded in later.

[Franky_d]

Having driven an allroad with Drive Select from the factory back-to-back with an allroad that had Drive Select coded in via VCDS, there is a big difference. OE Drive Select steering in Dynamic mode is noticeably heavier than the steering on a car with Drive Select coded in later.

Interesting. Was the rest of the steering setup identical (steering rack hardware and software, year, engine)? Wasn't there dynamic steering (hardware) installed on the car with OE ADS? There was more noticeable difference in steering between the modes on earlier cars - before they started performing 48K2 update.

I tried on the two cars from the same month of production, same engine (2.0 tdi), everything else the same, except ADS option. As described the difference was very subtle.

[Parmageddon]

Hi,

The difference in steering response in different modes is not big at all. In Tesla S for example the difference is much, much more pronounced, it feels that the steering gets heavier and lighter. In Audi it feels that the steering counter-reacts or resists more or less when you try to turn the wheel left-right, but the wheel itself does not get heavier - a bit hard to explain. I tried my friend's A4 with ADS from the factory and it was as tiny of a difference as in case of mine retrofitted ADS.

Servotronic was a feature on Audis with hydrolic steering - pre-FL. For FL A4, A5, Q5 (electro-mechanical steering rack) Byte 8, bit 1 would not make any difference. Well, at least i tried it on my 2013 Q5 and 2014 A4 many times in various combinations and only changing Byte 11, bit 7 made a difference.

Try to drive more, i hope you start noticing the difference, it's not worth spending another £50, in my opinion.

thanks for the info,


I did try some other combinations of settings, on other forums, people recommended that Byte8 Bit4 all made quite a bit of difference for them. Didnt make much difference for me. I ended up leaving it with. Byte8 Bit1 enabled. As I didnt realise the guide was pre-FL. I have to go in one more time anyway to see what version of S-Tronic software I have. (gearbox is feeling a little clunky)

Franky_D This guide for FL cars mentions setting (module 44 > Byte0 bit4 to 0 any idea what that does? they insist its for steering in the guide but it seems odd to me. http://www.audienthusiasts.com/VagCom_FL_ADS.html

Interestingly enough they do not mention it in the pre FL guide. They also dont mention Address 09 Byte11 bit7 in either guide.

I think when I go in one more time tomorrow, I'm just going to follow your guide with the addition of Bit8 Byte4 ON just incase that makes any difference.

[Franky_d]

thanks for the info,

I did try some other combinations of settings, on other forums, people recommended that Byte8 Bit4 all made quite a bit of difference for them. Didnt make much difference for me. I ended up leaving it with. Byte8 Bit1 enabled. As I didnt realise the guide was pre-FL. I have to go in one more time anyway to see what version of S-Tronic software I have. (gearbox is feeling a little clunky)

Franky_D This guide for FL cars mentions setting (module 44 > Byte0 bit4 to 0 any idea what that does? they insist its for steering in the guide but it seems odd to me. http://www.audienthusiasts.com/VagCom_FL_ADS.html

Interestingly enough they do not mention it in the pre FL guide. They also dont mention Address 09 Byte11 bit7 in either guide.

I think when I go in one more time tomorrow, I'm just going to follow your guide with the addition of Bit8 Byte4 ON just incase that makes any difference.

Byte8 Bit4 - This bit needs to be activated if the car Dynamic Steering Hardware (variable steering angle). In short, if such hardware is present the car would have ADS installed. Without such hardware, activating this bit would not make any difference. Other bits which require hardware presence (suspension, differential, tensions) - also would not provide any difference.

Module 44 > Byte0 bit4 to 0: This is activation/deactivation of Driver Steering Recommendation system when the car itself steers a little bit trying to counter-react side winds, etc. This one you can try for yourself, however note, that deactivation of DSR throughs an error in the breaks module. In the early days it was better to deactivate DSR, lately after all software updates for the steering, i think it works fine with DSR activated (default).

Address 09 Byte11 bit7: applies to FL cars. I wrote to Audienthusiasts asking to update their instructions, but i guess they have not had time. :)

[NPuter]

I used Franky's instructions to enable ads on a FL allroad, and everything seems to have worked!

I'll update the original post with the instructions for facelift cars

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