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[Wizard-of-OD]

So i took out the MKVI coils and put the stock B6 coils back...no break ups again...even gapping my BKR7e's to .040...Has anybody ever tried?

Sam did that...broke up almost instantly.

[vinny.dtw]

Sam did that...broke up almost instantly.

Now I'm just completely confused how my car is practically the OPPOSITE of common sense...Here is a rerun of what happened since I got them.

Round One. Bought BKR8EIX gapped at .040 using the coilpacks WITH the spacers, I would run into misfires when I have heavy load, but never at full boost after everything smooths out...

Round Two. Removed the coilpack spacers, and the misfire at load went away temporarily...but eventually came back at full boost, or when I ramp up on boost full throttle.

Round Three. Gapped said BKR8EIX to .035 and used my regular B6 coils, No problems developed. No misfires, no break ups.

Round Four. Changed to NGK Vpower 9's gapped at .040 using MKV coils and spacers...No misfires at all, however at high RPM's, my boost gauge would go nuts, and my battery light would come on, due to the fact that Vpower 9's were NON resistered.

Round Five. Swapped to BKR7E with the spacers gapped at .040 FINALLY no misfires for a few days, then on full boost one time, it broke up...Took them to examine that 3 of those coils have cracked minorly at the tip...

Round Six. Just swapped coil packs for shits and giggles without regapping the spark plugs...no break ups, no misfires...this has been two days of driving in pretty intense 90 deg weather...

WTF.

Note: I installed my coils like John did...remove boot from MKV coils, put spacers on, put boot back on to form a nice sturdy fit. But didn't apply any dielectric grease.

I think I may just give up on these for now.

[Wizard-of-OD]

Vin
redo the above and put the part #'s of the coils you used. I am going to see if we can get that replicated here.

[n7plus1]

im pretty sure he has teh 06h ones.

[vinny.dtw]

Vin
redo the above and put the part #'s of the coils you used. I am going to see if we can get that replicated here.

BLACK MKVI TSI Coil Packs - 06H 905 115 are the ones I have. I've roughly put 2000 miles on these coils through the different stages.

[Wizard-of-OD]

were the black coils sourced through ECS tuning?

[bedes]

thx Issam, put the order in today.. Im Jesse.

[vinny.dtw]

were the black coils sourced through ECS tuning?

No it was through Germanautoparts.com

[Wet0willy01]

What's the relevance of the coils purchased through ecs?

[a4darkness]

One more reason to hate them.

What's the relevance of the coils purchased through ecs?

[bedes]

ouch. but yeah if they wouldnt charge 25% of the purchase price for shipping...

[a4darkness]

ROTFL

[Wizard-of-OD]

Are they offering any sort of Warranty?

[bedes]

rcvd my adapters today, two days from Canada. Issam is top notch.

[TurKey]

Just got mine yesterday. Thanks Issam

Anybody figure anything else about the coil housing cracks? I'm going to pick up my coils on the way home and need to decide which to get. Are the 06H 905 115 coils really that much better than the MKV TSI coils (06F 905 115 F) or the MKV FSI coils?

[bedes]

if you are not trying to swap gaskets I dont for see a problem with the housing cracking. I swapped in the 06H and no issues.

[a4darkness]

Anybody figure anything else about the coil housing cracks? I'm going to pick up my coils on the way home and need to decide which to get. Are the 06H 905 115 coils really that much better than the MKV TSI coils (06F 905 115 F) or the MKV FSI coils?

While there doesn't seem to be a discernible pattern or reasoning for the failures, general consensus seems to be metal > plastic CPs. Unsure though which PN's would correlate.

[Wizard-of-OD]

Thats why we are selling the adapters with the MKV coils .

UPDATE : GUYS If you have ordered between Wednesday and This morning , we are sorry but your order will not ship out until 2 weeks from today. We had an order of 60 kits that pretty much cleaned out our shelf stock inventory so back to the "waiting" game. We also now have over 100 coils in stock so let us know if there is anything you need.

[boy412]

Finally got my "new" valve cover installed...along with MKVI coil packs, BKR7E-11 plugs (gapped to 0.040) and INA spacers.

Before:



After (I really like the contrast of the silver spacers against the black valve cover):



The coils don't sit quite flush with the adapters so hopefully everything stays put. I used a little dielectric grease on the seals and installed the coil packs into the spacers prior to installation.



I haven't had a chance to do any spirited driving yet, but my overall sense is the car feels smoother overall (which is what everyone else has been saying...so yay!).

[bedes]

I removed the gaskets completely. The coils packs sit flush and are very snug. You still have to pull hard to remove them. These pictures are after some spirited pulls on the freeway.

[vhstejskal]

The coils don't sit quite flush with the adapters so hopefully everything stays put. I used a little dielectric grease on the seals and installed the coil packs into the spacers prior to installation.



I haven't had a chance to do any spirited driving yet, but my overall sense is the car feels smoother overall (which is what everyone else has been saying...so yay!).

I would pull the one that sits a little higher and make sure the rubber seal hasn't bunched up causing it to sit higher. I know I had the same issue with one that I finally got to sit flush...

[boy412]

@vhstejskl - I know what you're talking about...and I experienced that on one coil pack when I was threading it through the adapter. None of the gaskets/seals are bunched up. They were all flush when I set them on top of the plugs. When I pushed down on them they all popped up a little bit.

Clean engine bay bedes! Do you ever drive this car?

[Wizard-of-OD]

The coils should all be sitting even right across the board.

[bedes]

@bwoy412, lol yes but I just have a major cleaning OCD.

[heywier427]

you must use silicon to get the cp to sit flush.

[boy412]

The coils should all be sitting even right across the board.

Clearly they do not in my case.

you must use silicon to get the cp to sit flush.

I used dielectric grease on the gaskets and pre-installed the spacers onto the coil packs. Unlike John's experience (see below) I did have to apply a little force since the adapters were still hovering over the valve cover. Not sure why my experience was different...but here we are.

Yeah, I lubed the coilpack seals with silicone spray, then installed the adapters on the coil packs, then inserted the coils with the adapters already located on the coilpack seals, into the plug wells until I felt the coil click onto the spark plug, then installed the screws, there is no down force on the coilpacks from the adapters, and the silicone spray lube helps the coilpack settle with the adapter without any downforce against the plug after installation. The coil pack must be able to float vertically as the coilpack heats up and expands length wise, and contract again as it cools down with the engine shut off after running. If the rubber seals are to dry in the adapters, then the heat up expansion will stress the coil pack in compression when hot, and as it cools, the stress from expansion lengthwise, decreases to nominal zero when cooled off. The thermal cycling if bound up in the seal will eventually crack the coilpack body. The same type of failure also seems evident from an unsupported coilpack as it vibrates sideways in the plug well, bending the coilpack body and causing the stress crack failures from that different failure mode.

[Wizard-of-OD]

you must use silicon to get the cp to sit flush.

As in dielectric grease? install the CP's into the adapters first and then put them in the spark plug cavity.

[KFizz]

Finally got my "new" valve cover installed...along with MKVI coil packs, BKR7E-11 plugs (gapped to 0.040) and INA spacers.

Perhaps a little off topic. But where did you find the replacement harness for the coil packs?

[boy412]

I got it from 034 when my original harness crumbled to bits:

clicky click

I'm actually (still) waiting for Issam to make me something similar for my injectors. That harness is prone to the same problems as the coil pack wiring BTW.

[KFizz]

So I need to replace my coil packs in the next short while. I was planning on running the bolt down Hitachi E coils. It was my understanding that these are the more reliable option. I am potentially going GTRS in the next while. Now I'm begininng to wonder if this option might be better. I would assume that the hotter/stronger spark would be a benifit, but is there still a reliability issue with the 2.0 coils? I was also considering a 034 carbon coil cover, will there be a clearance issue with the cover using these taller coils?

This thread is now 13 pages long, I couldn't bring myself to read the entire thing. I'm sorry is this has been discussed already.

[Wizard-of-OD]

So I need to replace my coil packs in the next short while. I was planning on running the bolt down Hitachi E coils. It was my understanding that these are the more reliable option. I am potentially going GTRS in the next while. Now I'm begininng to wonder if this option might be better. I would assume that the hotter/stronger spark would be a benifit, but is there still a reliability issue with the 2.0 coils? I was also considering a 034 carbon coil cover, will there be a clearance issue with the cover using these taller coils?

This thread is now 13 pages long, I couldn't bring myself to read the entire thing. I'm sorry is this has been discussed already.

There will be a clearance issue so you will need 10mm spacers or so. I personally dont think Hitachi coils are anymore reliable.

[Akronnnnnnnn]

Thats why we are selling the adapters with the MKV coils .

so you're saying you prefer to run these with 06E 905 115?

[dougyfresh]

So i took out the MKVI coils and put the stock B6 coils back...no break ups again...even gapping my BKR7e's to .040...Has anybody ever tried?

I didn't change the gap because the plugs I'm running now you can't gap. But I did go back to revD B6 coils and no issues.

When I was using plugs you could gap I was running between 0.035 and 0.040" on revD B6 coils.

[Wizard-of-OD]

so you're saying you prefer to run these with 06E 905 115?

Yes I do.

[Akronnnnnnnn]

Yes I do.

okay. finally picking CPs and plugs up. Going with BKR7E-11 gapped to 0.040 since I'm just stage 1 for now.

[Akronnnnnnnn]

Just a heads up guys,

europa had the best prices for 06E-905-115E(MKV) packs:

http://www.europaparts.com/ignition-...6e905115e.html

and I found BKR7E-11's on www.RockAuto.com for $1.61 each.

[TurKey]

http://vw.partsestore.com/catalogsea...6249&makeid=35

They have any of the coils (MKV, MKV red, MKVI) for $17.85 a piece. They had 70 of the MKV ones in stock when I picked up mine. Its a VW dealer in the San Jose, CA area. They also ship(don't know about rates since I'm local).

[AudiHere04]

and I found BKR7E-11's on www.RockAuto.com for $1.61 each.

ugh..just bought mine.

[A4Maine-iac]

Dam things. Have the 06H' and was having little misfires here and there and idle issue everynow and them. Pulled the CP's and #3 has a 1" carck up it. ( the cause ? )Going with the metal ones next. No one has any issues with them ?

[vhstejskal]

I've been looking into the cracking issue on the 06H CPs and think have found what the root cause might be. I'll post some pics later around my findings but I think the metal ones would have the same issue you just don't notice it because there is no plastic sleeve to indicate cracking...