New Member, Old Car

[team illuminata]

Something from this box should work

525853_2022384615781_1728951275_1004273_24903482_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Like this perhaps

545662_2022385615806_1728951275_1004274_1652053372 _n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


BINGO!

538244_2022386655832_1728951275_1004275_448465878_ n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


All gone

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Now I have to tear this apart.

523642_2022390055917_1728951275_1004279_930588752_ n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


The parts haul so far

560426_2022389095893_1728951275_1004277_1555238133 _n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


I also discovered that my right side engine mount is collapsed so that will have to be replaced too. And, my right side hub is very loose in int housing. Is that normal or should I be doing wheel bearings too?
All gone




Now I have to tear this apart.




The parts haul so far




I also discovered that my right side engine mount is collapsed so that will have to be replaced too. And, my right side hub is very loose in int housing. Is that normal or should I be doing wheel bearings too?

[team illuminata]

More unbolting today.

I was advised to remove the tie rod ends so I could free up the adjusters as I will need an alignment when I'm done.

380729_2024886078316_1728951275_1005700_1487601036 _n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


So I did, then sprayed it with PB Blaster.

533165_2024887158343_1728951275_1005701_1366471932 _n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

This is where it bolts to the rack. Interesting arrangement.

532857_2024888798384_1728951275_1005704_594131927_ n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


I took a gearbox mount off to change it but it looked new so I bolted it back on and crossed it off my list.

557256_2024891878461_1728951275_1005705_2139682584 _n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Have an exhaust leak from here. Had to cut the bolts with a hacksaw blade. Going to need a new donut.

548215_2024894958538_1728951275_1005707_871728640_ n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Drained the coolant and flushed the system.

537457_2024897278596_1728951275_1005708_807313309_ n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Removed the heater valve as I have constant heat. Seems to close though. I think I will replace it anyway.

532074_2024900358673_1728951275_1005709_372433885_ n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Monday I shop for parts and do my taxes.

[team illuminata]

Disassembled both front struts today. Wasn't too hard.

554182_2029894723529_1728951275_1007824_816717859_ n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


The only problem is the free Bilsteins I have aren't going to fit. They are off a later model. So, I need some inserts. Koni or Bilstein. Can't seem to find them in stock anywhere. Anyone have any sitting around?

Need quite a few parts before I can put this thing back together. namely:

Blue upper mounts
Dampers, Koni preferred
Front 86-2086 sport 2-6 weeks
Rear 86-2087 sport in stock at Koni
Front Strut bellows
End link
Wheel bearings
heater valve
coolant G12 or regular green stuff?
Exhaust donut

[onlyaudis]

This thread is actually perfect and i will tell you why. I love the old UR Quattros--and even the regular 4000 Quattro sedan. One of the coolest cars from the 1980's. It is very exciting to see someone getting one of these cars in nice looking shape like this one is. makes you want to try and go find one.

the other thing that is perfect about this thread is seeing the reality of how involved it is taking a car like this from this era (even a great example like this one) and trying to make it right mechanically. so many things can be worn out or broken by now, and there isn't a great deal of support in carrying out the needed work. Makes me maybe not want to go and find one

Love the car. hope you are able to get it fully sorted out.

[team illuminata]

This thread is actually perfect and i will tell you why. I love the old UR Quattros--and even the regular 4000 Quattro sedan. One of the coolest cars from the 1980's. It is very exciting to see someone getting one of these cars in nice looking shape like this one is. makes you want to try and go find one.

the other thing that is perfect about this thread is seeing the reality of how involved it is taking a car like this from this era (even a great example like this one) and trying to make it right mechanically. so many things can be worn out or broken by now, and there isn't a great deal of support in carrying out the needed work. Makes me maybe not want to go and find one

Love the car. hope you are able to get it fully sorted out.

Thanks onlyaudis. makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Or perhaps that's the single malt I'm halfway through. Have a great weekend.

[team illuminata]

Koni inserts are on their way from a fellow URQ owner. Thanks Martin. I've found nice German top mounts and wheel bearings and most of the other parts I need. Still looking for the anti roll bar bushings and I'm not sure if I want to spend over $200 on an OE ball joint.

Took my struts and control arms to see my Freind Mat at MCE Tuning. He pressed out the wheel bearings for me no problem.

557930_2038813346489_250483501_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

458492_2038851347439_1854833606_o by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

553623_2038854347514_279038517_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

Then cleaned up the wheel bearing housings so the new bearings will go in nicely.

541300_2038858947629_1361300334_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Next I start working on getting the control arm bushings out.

[Dagi]

I like the work you do, very nice car, it deserves it!

[team illuminata]

I like the work you do, very nice car, it deserves it!

Thank you Dagi.

[team illuminata]

With parts sourced over the weekend it's time to tackle the rear suspension but I'm clearly not going to get at these from the trunk. Not with an impact gun anyway.




Had to take the back seats out. Looks like a race car :)




Had to use my bendy and impact gun to get the strut nuts off.




Everything loose, legs hanging. Had to use the ball joint tool kit again but now I'm an expert they just fell off.




My quattro is now "legless"!




The wheel bearings are better than the fronts but I think I'm going to change them anyway. Ball joints and tie rods seem ok so they can stay. Not excited about removing the strut inserts on these though. A lot rustier looking than the fronts were :( The left handbrake cable looks a little worse for wear but I have a pair on the way.

[ChrisGS4]

Beautiful car. Reminds me of the 86 coupe gt that got me addicted to german cars.

[team illuminata]

Beautiful car. Reminds me of the 86 coupe gt that got me addicted to german cars.

Yes, that's what got me into these too.

[team illuminata]

I got the rear struts apart yesterday. They were not as bad as I thought. I held the nut in a vice, applied heat and hit the steering arm with a hammer till it came loose.

People have suggested powder coating all the suspension components while they are off the car. I have been reluctant to do this as I am trying to not restore the car but maintain its originality. However, looking at the surface rust on the rear struts I feel I must at least POR15 the springs, rear struts and top hats just to preserve them.

549576_2050801326181_1728951275_1017076_1086191216 _n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


With that in mind I degreased them with Marine Clean yesterday after removing loose rust with a wire brush.

536835_2050787725841_1728951275_1017069_1047995182 _n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

Today, if I get chance, I will prep them and paint them with POR15 black.

[team illuminata]

Started the POR15 rust inhibition project today. Prepped with POR prep stuff.

540967_2051466822818_398240252_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


First coat of POR15 applied. Of course I managed to get some on my hands and face.

525541_2051949394882_764807944_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

[team illuminata]

Huge parts haul today. Coolant, front wheel bearings, top mounts, handbrake cables. Control arm bushings etc.

319779_2054785705788_1817533606_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


I think I may be starting put the car back together. After installing the new heater control valve I added coolant and put the steering arms back in the car today.

557427_2054789545884_1160801971_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

After that I dropped off the control arms and bushings at a friend's so he can attack them with his new press.

Have a good weekend.

[team illuminata]

It's KONI time in the shop this week!



Time to start putting this car back together but one question to resolve before I do that is where to set the adjustable KONI inserts.
I like a responsive ride, my other car's a race car, but don't want to ruin the ride quality especially as you have to take these buggers
out again to adjust them. So where to begin, #1, #2, #5?. Anyone have any experience with these?

[team illuminata]

I started to re-assemble the front struts this afternoon. Pressed in the wheel bearings.

374058_2066666762807_494846908_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

524393_2066663402723_1996091487_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Pressed the hub on and inserted the Koni inserts.

540478_2066656442549_50158913_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Need to decide on settings before I install the springs. Currently on 2 out of 5. Anyone know where these go?

560621_2066658722606_2141515379_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


The POR15 was a bit glossy so I went over the top hats and springs with some flat black.

540660_2066661442674_1616685186_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


I also re-installed the control arms and new right side ball joint. If I get chance tomorrow I'll install the springs then put the front struts back on the car!

[onlyaudis]

I just picked up a near mint 1 owner red 84 quattro sedan (see my recent post) I am blaming you for this! I should have known better than to read the classic audi posts here and on Vortex

[team illuminata]

I just picked up a near mint 1 owner red 84 quattro sedan (see my recent post) I am blaming you for this! I should have known better than to read the classic audi posts here and on Vortex

Sorry. How about I pay for all your parts?

[team illuminata]

Semi productive day today. I was hoping to have the car back on its wheels, maybe even driving but alas, I was thwarted by a wrong part. Seems I have a ball joint for a 4000 instead. Bugger!

Still, I got all four struts assembled and the Konis set. I went with 1 turn on the fronts, 1.5 in the rear. If I don't like it they are easy to adjust.....NOT!

Installed all but the right front strut on the car. Even that is technically on the car. Just hanging from the upper mount for now. I ordered a TSW ball joint from Rock Auto as a back up. OE versions are very pricey. Tomorrow I will search locally for a decent one. If I can't find one I'll wait for the TSW one. That's what's already on the left side anyway.

Hopefully, if I get time tomorrow I'll drop the rear on the ground and tighten all the bolts, put the rear seats back in and maybe, if I can find some, replace the blown rear speakers. I guess I could also drop and tighten the front left too. I can also install the new catalytic converter gasket and cinch that up so I can start the engine and burp the coolant. Then an alignment and we drive it. Damn, wish I had a ball joint.

[cbock]

This thread is great..any chance you're adopting?

[team illuminata]

Looks like a car again. At least this side does.

398792_2072454507497_1450869834_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


This side's still missing a leg!
531441_2072455747528_1823520797_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


So, thirty years ago a small, select group of Audi engineers sat down together to eat pizza and hatch a cunning plan. "I know..." proffers one
particularly sneaky engineer "...... let's build a 4wd turbo car that looks just like the Coupe GT but uses non of its parts. NONE. This will really
mess with their heads in about thirty years time. HAH!"

See, it wasn't about rally at all. It was just a German practical joke!

[team illuminata]

This thread is great..any chance you're adopting?

Only if you are done with college. Not paying for that as well as a URQ.

[team illuminata]

It's funny what you'll do while your waiting for parts. I decided to have a look at the aftermarket speakers on the rear parcel shelf. They are ugly and sound really tinny.

522124_2076633491969_1387945683_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Oh my! How do we improve on this situation? What is the OE configuration like? Anyone have an original parcel shelf? With speakers?

577586_2076632011932_1941732208_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

I tried some other speakers in there but they were too bg and still sounded tinny. Maybe my acoustic issue lies somewhere else.

Still no sign of another (probably wrong) balljoint so I decided to pull out the passenger seat. Why? Severe case of wobble-bottom due to suspected worn slider bushings. BTW easiest seat extraction ever!

549315_2076635332015_764400301_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

Or non existent slider bushings.

527892_2076636812052_778422535_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Oh, here it is. Hiding in the slider rail. Yuk.

577141_2076640732150_974807991_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


and here's the new ones I surreptitiously picked up off eBay. Yes, I did buy two sets but the driver's seat is not so bad just yet. maybe, when my wrong balljoint gets here I will decide it is aweful and swap them too.
485181_2076641972181_1381972389_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Here, that's better.

580645_2076643732225_58802455_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

Then, really desperate, I downloaded this to play through my new OE stereo.

533990_2084463087704_757156418_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr



I wanna go for a drive :(

[AudiCoupeGT]

Great work as always! Any more info on the seat removal? Haven't done it before so just wanted to know a rough idea of how it goes down.

[team illuminata]

Great work as always! Any more info on the seat removal? Haven't done it before so just wanted to know a rough idea of how it goes down.

Thanks AudiCoupeGT. The seat removal was surprisingly easy. The most difficult part was reconnecting the seat heater wiring plug after reinstallation. Some of the pins didn't want to line up so had to jer...jer..jer..jiggle it a bit. To remove the seats you remove the end cap from the rails, one screw each, and the stop on the center slider/adjuster and just slide the seat out of its rails backwards. Couldn't be easier. Fold it forward and pull it out. Oh, you have to open the door too.

[team illuminata]

Look what Postman Pat brought me yesterday.

422136_2000573830525_1728951275_995113_541621899_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


It fits too!

OK, I know, it's not OE and will probably wear out in about 10,000 miles but it's a tenth of the price!

So here it is, finally, back on all fours.

tumblr_m8s09vR4o01rxkf1vo1_1280 by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


So i fired up the quattro and backed it out to get it up to temperature. I needed to burp the cooling system and test my new heater valve. Heater valve works but still runs a little warm at full cold. It is not closing fully though it did on the bench. I think a small cable adjustment should take care of things.

535988_2017390170923_1728951275_1002577_1870749776 _n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Then I took it out for a test drive. I must say the Kraftwerk worked perfectly. Exactly as described. New suspension's not bad either. Initially the new dampers seemed crashy over small bumps but soon settled down. I was a little surprised that the dampers did not feel stiffer as I set them around half their range. I couldn't really get on it though as the front anti roll bar is still off and I only have an eyeball alignment. I'm sure I'm going to be very happy with it once it's aligned and fully together next week.

I put the old speakers back in place but didn't reconnect them. The front are fine for now. Would love to get a replacement parcel shelf and original speakers though. Anyone?

I also installed the new cat gasket/donut but I think it's still blowing a bit :(

So I'm done for now. There's quite a few things on my original hit list that I didn't do yet and a few new ones but it's time to drive this thing.

[AudiCoupeGT]

Thanks for that info! If possible, I'd love to see some vids of the car.

[team illuminata]

Thanks for that info! If possible, I'd love to see some vids of the car.

Yes, I should do more with video. Here's one from before I bought it.

[team illuminata]

I took the car down to Auto Europe for an alignment Tuesday.

alignment1 by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr, on Flickr

alignment2 by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

My eyeballed alignment was way off as you might imagine but Charles whipped it back into shape.

So i've only put a few dozen miles on the car and the front anti-roll bar is missing but this beast has been transformed. No more boings and rattles from the loos suspension, goes where you point it and is very responsive. Just rolls a bit in corners as you might imagine. So everything is good. Not quite..........radiator started leaking yesterday. just a little froom the top seam:

149482_2096564350228_435952445_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

and maybe the core. Can this be fixed, perhaps in situ? I don't want a new radiator as I love the look of the aged brass top.

I also have a small leak now from the power steering regulator but haven't yet isolated the source.

It never raiins but it pours (or weeps) with these cars. :):(

[team illuminata]

Quick radiator removal. This should be easy right?

383539_2116836537020_1728951275_1045952_1886760539 _n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


It has more hoses going to it than my heart has arteries.

522133_2116834936980_1728951275_1045950_1537324561 _n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Finally got it disconnected and out of the car.

581542_2116831776901_1728951275_1045948_1372789897 _n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

535833_2116828936830_1728951275_1045947_636945106_ n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Uh, oh! Where's the isolator mount? Is this replaceable?

574555_2116826936780_1728951275_1045946_322766283_ n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

528808_2116822816677_1728951275_1045944_328959328_ n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Off to the radiator shop for a re-core. Hopefully they can use the end tanks and side brackets.


Finally found a replacement for that decomposing breather hose.

580592_2116819456593_1728951275_1045943_1717992450 _n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


OE exhaust bolts. How concientious is that?

534765_2116812296414_1728951275_1045942_107804296_ n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Can't wait to get the radiator back for the shop and start driving this thing.

[team illuminata]

Recored UR Quattro radiator. I asked them not to paint it but now have to decide what to do to it. I was hoping to retain the original look with some of the black paint still on the top with the aged brass showing through but it rather got cleaned off in the process. Do I need to paint the core or can I leave the whole thing raw?

318167_2121916344012_1728951275_1048302_1766787067 _n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

[C_Yaco]

respect, that looks amazing.

[team illuminata]

respect, that looks amazing.

Thank you.

[team illuminata]

So I decided not to paint anything, just threw it back into the car and drove it to the local track event by way of a shakedown. I hope everyone's cool with that.

528595_2125897683543_1728951275_1050505_414035124_ n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

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Next on the list is to figure out why my washers don't work anymore. Low flow, just dribbles out. I also need to get the anti roll bar back on, detail it and rebalance the wheels. Then, hopefully, I can enjoy the car for a few months, so long as the clutch lasts. It feels awefully high on the pedal lately.

[AudiCoupeGT]

I actually kinda like the look of the radiator! Perhaps the washer nozzles/ lines are clogged up?

[team illuminata]

I actually kinda like the look of the radiator! Perhaps the washer nozzles/ lines are clogged up?

Ah, at last. Someone who is as crazy as me. LOL

I thought of that but it effects all four nozzles so I imagine it's either a crimoed line (briefly checked) or the pump. I suspect the pump but haven't had chance to delve into it yet. Are they still available?

[AudiCoupeGT]

Haha!

I would they think would be but don't take my word for it.

[Eurotuned_A4]

Just checked this thread otu. Great job on the car. I know fo one for sale, but definately not in this condition that Im thinking about buying. Not sure I am brave enough though with so much NLA for these.

[team illuminata]

I understand. It can be a bit daunting but worth it IMHO. Of coarse, if you ask me during a rebuild of something you might get a different answer LOL

Just checked this thread otu. Great job on the car. I know fo one for sale, but definately not in this condition that Im thinking about buying. Not sure I am brave enough though with so much NLA for these.

[lauravart]

looks awesome