jetta tdi swap??

[jharp08]

Anyone ever done a tdi swap into a b6 1.8t? Is it even possible?.. I dont really know much about the tdi but my friend had one in his jetta and i loved that car. I would love to look into this and would be great if anyone has any insight on it. I guess i would want the 1.9l out of the mrk4 jetta because it'd be easy to get my hands on. Anyone have any idea on transmission fitment, fueling, etc

[DenisA91]

Isn't the engine position for Jetta different than A4? I mean, Jetta is transversely mounted while A4 is longitudinal. If A4 is Quattro, I do not see how one would go about placing 1.9TDI into A4. I'd just get Jetta with TDI and call it a day. I'm not an expert on engine swaps though.

[jharp08]

yea its transverse i just would do anything to figure out a way to have a tdi in my car. Maybe the 2.5 tdi is the only way to go but i think the 2.0 tdi may come in a longitudial set-up. Are the 4motion cars still transverse? I will always drive an audi unless im plowing snow then ill be in a chevy but the audi would probably be just as good but no way im getting a jetta.

[jordon]

Get a tdi from a passat- it should be longitudinal, and probably not nearly as difficult.

[audi1.8tFTW]

tdi from passat may be easier to swap since they make it from factory in europe ..

[Mc Suly]

Transmission is on the other side someone told me.

TDI swap seems hype but slow a bit, unless you go BIG TURBO

[wheelmanbg]

I don't know a whole lot about it but I'm 100% sure that A4s are available with diesel engines in Europe. I've ridden in one. I'd love to have one since they get great gas mileage and I'm sure it's possible but I don't know enough about it. Maybe this thread will teach me more about it.

[Mc Suly]

^^ Yes they do. They have the 3.0L V6 TDI engines in the A4.

http://www.audi.de/de/brand/de.html

check it out for yourself ;) + YouTube it.

[boostedAvant]

This is what I plan on doing down the road. There is a guy in Canada I've been PM'ing a little bit who swapped an older TDI into his B5. I'm not sure if it's ever been done in a B6 but I would love to be the first. I have looked at the gear ratios from my trans and compared them to the gear ratios in the Jetta TDI's and they're a little different but not that drastically. I think the trans should bolt up? I don't see why they would be different. The other thing I'm concerned about is the cluster and getting that to work properly. I am sure you would probably have to use the ECU and wiring harness from the Passat as well as some other things. Maybe the fuse box I'm not sure. Hopefully someone else with more knowledge then I can post up. Why didn't they just make a TDI B6 here.

[wheelmanbg]

^^ Yes they do. They have the 3.0L V6 TDI engines in the A4.

http://www.audi.de/de/brand/de.html

check it out for yourself ;) + YouTube it.

And they have plenty of power. The guy had the cruise set @ 100mph and the car had no problems keeping it there. I fell in love with A4s that day :)

[audi1.8tFTW]

Yea tdi a4 in europe = win ... i would definitly get one if we could here ..

[a4darkness]

The continued emergence of TDI here in the US is good news for projects like this one. I really hope we see more of them coming stateside. The low end torque in these engines just makes me all... giggity.

[O2VW1.8T]

this would be a sick swap, but then i bought a 2011 jetta sportwagen so i wont have to do it.

[onceover]

^^ Yes they do. They have the 3.0L V6 TDI engines in the A4.

http://www.audi.de/de/brand/de.html

check it out for yourself ;) + YouTube it.

as well as 1.9's in the B6's

[cdn20valve]

What do you guys want to know?

[lyleswk]

If you really do this (I would just buy a passat), just make sure you check your local laws and make sure you can register it. In Texas, you wouldn't be able to.

[jharp08]

cdn20valve i want to know literally everything so anything you can tell me would be nice what motor did you swap into your b5 ... what options are there for longitudial tdi's that will bolt up to my transmission are there any 1.9 longitudial set ups?

[cdn20valve]

All VW/Audi 4cyl will bolt up to audi A4 trans(except V8). I installed 1997 TDI from a MKIII Jetta (available as TDI in Canada).

You need to use 1.8T flywheel/clutch PP. Make sure crank on engine has hole for pilot brg. Some engine, if they came from automatics may not have the hole machined for pilot brg.

A pic for your interest...

[cdn20valve]

- Power steering pump. Use tdi pump with 1.8t power steering hoses.
- a/c? work in progress... I have the compressor installed, bu need to make custom lines...
- 1.8T rad
- use 1.8t A4 oil pan and oil pick-up tube.
- mounts are custom fabricated. atleast with my engine. Using a MKIV TDI may be easier here. 1.8t mounts may work. unsure.

[Scotty@Advanced]

To be honest a proper tdi swap will require:

Fuel tank with filler etc.
Fuel lines
engine
Accessories (alt A/C, etc)
Transmission
Cluster

You can really cheap out on a swap by making stuff, or going mechanical injection but it is something I wouldn't call a quality job (certainly not something I'd put my company name on). The 1.9 transverse engine is slightly different than the longitudinal, not meaning it wouldn't work but you loose some of the crash protection the additional engine bosses provide.

In some jurisdictions you will not be able to register the vehicle, or pass emission tests, so this needs to be investigated.

We have scheduled a 3.0 tdi into an Allroad so that should be done in a few months, and we are working on several B5 tdi conversions using European components.

[cdn20valve]

To be honest a proper tdi swap will require:

Fuel tank with filler etc.
Fuel lines
engine
Accessories (alt A/C, etc)
Transmission
Cluster

You can really cheap out on a swap by making stuff, or going mechanical injection but it is something I wouldn't call a quality job (certainly not something I'd put my company name on). The 1.9 transverse engine is slightly different than the longitudinal, not meaning it wouldn't work but you loose some of the crash protection the additional engine bosses provide.

In some jurisdictions you will not be able to register the vehicle, or pass emission tests, so this needs to be investigated.

We have scheduled a 3.0 tdi into an Allroad so that should be done in a few months, and we are working on several B5 tdi conversions using European components.

Depends how much you want to spend. Might as well import.

In my case, I did this project in my driveway,. and incl the car, the entire project cost me $5,000 canadian. I had a very low budget!! after all saving money is the point of a TDI in the first place.

You do not need a fuel tank. You do not need new fuel lines. You do not need a cluster (unless the higher redline bothers you (TDI tops out at 5000rpm). You do not need a new trans. (ideally you want atleast, at the very minimum a 5sp 2.8 trans. The 1.8T trans is geared way to short.)

I hope you are not implying that my swap is mechanical injection, because it is not. It is a TDI, not TD.

What crash protection are you talking about? I did not have to make any changed to firewall or bumpers??

[SleeperAvant]

Here's his thread: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...=1#post4544275

[TFlanary]

Not that it wouldn't cost you a bit of money, but you can register quite any vehicle in Florida, if you have some sort of address. They used to even let you do it to the PO Boxes. I've seen alot of vehicles with FL tags but addresses out of state, as well. And there are no emissions tests or inspections! Yay! The $450 new plate fee is a bitch though.


I believe the same goes for NH (or is it VT?) but I don't live there so I'm not entirely sure.

[Lofty86]

Yeah, us euro' drivers have the A4 TDi's and come in 1.9T and 2.5T.
Also come in fwd or quattro.

Ive got a 2003 A4 avant 1.9TDi Quattro Sport (red shocks). Its a fantastic car and cant wait to get my Hybrid turbo, fmic and head on. There good for 300bhp and 550 foot pounds or torque!!! And with the quattro to get it on the road, it is going to be fun.
This is going to be my long term projest.

The transverse ingine is different, but if your willing to do the swap then everything can be changed.
The 2.5's have problems with soft cam shafts, keep away!
Dave

[FORCE_FED_DUB]

The 2000-2003 VW TDI engine is a direct fit for a B6 1.8T A4. The block is almost identical (actually, the block is used by people making 2.1-2.2L 20V, and the crank is used to make 2.0-2.1L 20v) so it bolts right in. The older TDI block is a direct replacement for early B5 A4. All of the accessories from a 1.8T bolt right up as well, and any 1.8T A4 clutch/flywheel bolts right up. Just like other swaps, it's the electrical system that needs the most attention.

[boostedAvant]

That's the part I'm worried most about ^

[jharp08]

so its not that hard to put the transverse motor in there?? im about to get my tax check and if this is possible im going to be looking for a vw with rear end damage.. how does the whole fueling work? What ecu are you using?

[BASARAB]

You can buy a salvaged diesel b6 in Europe, ship it over here, swap the engine and be good to go. Shipping from Germany costs about 1k
Here are some examples
http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/se...ntry=&zipcode=

[jharp08]

im trying to do this on a budget like getting the motor for about 1k i can work that if i can use a transverse motor from a mrk4 tdi

[boostedAvant]

You can buy a salvaged diesel b6 in Europe, ship it over here, swap the engine and be good to go. Shipping from Germany costs about 1k
Here are some examples
http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/se...ntry=&zipcode=

You might end up scoring some other euro goodies as well! This might be the route to go depending on what kind of deal you get on the car.

[Lofty86]

It should just be the mounts that are different on the transverse, but if your breaking a euro B6 or just buying the engine, it should come with mounts, and there not hard to buy as there VAG items.

If you want to know more about TDi tuning, http://forums.tdiclub.com/ is the place to do so. LOADS of info and people who love huge turbos and 42mpg!
Dave

[Lofty86]

The point about the 1.8T clutch interests me some what as im after a whopping clutch for 300bhp and 600torque, but TDi's arnt the easyest thing to get clutches for at this power AND for a quattro?? anyone know if it will work for sure? I know you have to go from the DMF to SMF with other 1.8T clutches in TDi's.
More info would be great.

What goodies do us euro's have that you lot dont then?

Dave

[Scotty@Advanced]

I hope you are not implying that my swap is mechanical injection, because it is not. It is a TDI, not TD.

Your a bit confused.. TDI does not imply electrical fuel delivery. There are mechanical and Computer controlled TDI engines.

[Scotty@Advanced]

You can buy a salvaged diesel b6 in Europe, ship it over here, swap the engine and be good to go. Shipping from Germany costs about 1k
Here are some examples
http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/se...ntry=&zipcode=

This is a easy way to a felony, and huge fines.. Vehicles and engine are illegal to import unless they meet EPA and NHTSA standards.

[cdn20valve]

Scott, I didn't know that. I thought all TDI's were controlled by stinky, oily, diesel juice.

My diesel is about to hit 300,000km. OP need any help, let me know. The door is always open, and I ain't making any money on this. ;)

[Scotty@Advanced]

Scott, I didn't know that. I thought all TDI's were controlled by stinky, oily, diesel juice.

My diesel is about to hit 300,000km. OP need any help, let me know. The door is always open, and I ain't making any money on this. ;)

They all burn diesel but the injection pumps can be had in mechanical or electrical configuration. We offer a Mechanical TDI pump making a swap a one wire affair.

MTDI Injection pump

The earliest TDI's were also mechanical.