Dewayne's Brilliant Yellow A4 Build

[xdewaynex]

Got a couple boxes of goodies earlier this morning.









Got to get the gasket for the turbo/downpipe area along with the studs later today. Bought the oil catch can off Ebay and looks like a nice piece.

[waveblaster200]

I'm a little jealous! If this is your weekend project it looks fun!! Cant wait to hear how it all goes. I wish I would have gone with F4H-L instead of the K04. Cheers!

[xdewaynex]

Ive got quite a bit to do this weekend. Still waiting on the fmic which should be here Tuesday. Last thing Ill be waiting on is the tune, which I hope everything works out soon.

[xdewaynex]

I just got a call from Chris at C2 Motorsports, and my tune is done and hes shipping both of my ecus back to me today. Managed to tune the 557N spare ecu with a 557P file with their 440cc injector tune and 3" maf housing as well. Hopefully if things go smooth, itll be back on the road Tuesday.

[Papa_Dios]

Nice. Im really contemplating going this route. Keep us posted.

[spindoctor]

Can't wait! :D

[xdewaynex]

Oil cooler, coolant flange, manifold and turbo are all bolted up. I have to goto Napa tomorrow, and find a couple of fittings to put on the new oil feed line. Should be able to button up all the loose ends tomorrow and have it started. The Exhaust manifolds from FT are a bitch to install.

[Papa_Dios]

How so? Do they provide gaskets with the kit?

[xdewaynex]

Not much room to work with a wrench on the nuts. Its such a tight area, and you can only use a socket on like 3 of the nuts. No gaskets are included with the FT kit.

[xdewaynex]

Car starts, vacuum is around 20 at idle. Its got kind of a rough idle, then smooths out around 900-1k rpms, check engine light flashes, drops below 900rpms and then dies. Hard to start back up after that.

[xdewaynex]

Done a little bit of searching, and found that it could be my throttle body needs to be recalibrated. Putting the key into the on/acc position and letting it sit somewhere between 5-10min. Does that sound about right? Ive had the ecu and battery out for about a week.

[Papa_Dios]

Yep that's what I've read.

[spindoctor]

I'm a noob to the VAG engines. I thought the throttle body recalibration is only applicable to the DBW engines?

Speaking of the exhaust manifold, a friend of mine installed the FT to his B6 and by the looks of it, yes it is a bitch to install.

Would be nice if psiconcepts offer a manifold with the K03/K04 flange. Would also benefit those with the eliminator kit IMO.


Anyway, let us know how you go.


Edit: are you gonna run water/meth injection?

[xdewaynex]

Im honestly not sure if its just for dbw or dbc. Water/Meth has crossed my mind before, but Im not positive on the whole thing yet. I want to get everything done, get the bugs out and then decide where I want to go from there.

[Papa_Dios]

Ive only heard of the DBW needing that also. You should be hearing a noise if it is though. Let us know.

[Don Supreme]

Car starts, vacuum is around 20 at idle. Its got kind of a rough idle, then smooths out around 900-1k rpms, check engine light flashes, drops below 900rpms and then dies. Hard to start back up after that.

flashing checking engine light means you are misfiring...

check for big vac leaks,etc.

P.S. Did you get a new fueling setup? (maf, tune, inj, etc)

[flynnr]

Run bkr7e plugs gapped at .027 also you can and should do a tba on a dbc car

[xdewaynex]

Tune is setup for stock fueling with 440cc injectors. I could hear the tb making a buzzing noise lastnight. I went ahead and diconnected the battery and ecu lastnight to let things clear. Ill check into those sparkplugs as well.

[ZimbutheMonkey]

Throttle body alignment is necessary on both DBW and DBC. The turn key and let it sit method doesn't work, you'll need a registered VAG-COM cable to do it. You can tell if you're DBW or DBC by looking at the throttle body. If there is a cable attached to the throttle body it's DBC if not it's DBW.

[xdewaynex]

Looks like Im screwed on the tb alignment and the spark plugs. I dont have vag-com, and none of the parts stores has those plugs in stock.

[geeky]

If you have a 98, you have a DBC. DBC's have a manual way to do a TBA. it's in the bentley.

Let me know how the car runs with the Frankenturbo + C2 Motorsports tune. Im getting back into an Audi this may and will be going with the Frankenturbo setup. So excited to get back into a car.

[xdewaynex]

What other spark plugs would be recommended besides the BKR7E?

Geeky, Ill keep you updated on everything. I have to visit C2 tomorrow to pick up the 3" maf housing that I forgot to get.

[Vreihenmotor6]

I'm sure c2 should have some plugs, btw, theres a napa add at the bottom of my screen and they can get your plugs for you in a day or 2 if C2 doesn't have them

[black99.5a4]

Throttle body alignment is necessary on both DBW and DBC. The turn key and let it sit method doesn't work, you'll need a registered VAG-COM cable to do it. You can tell if you're DBW or DBC by looking at the throttle body. If there is a cable attached to the throttle body it's DBC if not it's DBW.

both are actually able to do with just a unplug of the battery and turning the key on and letting it sit... i've done both of my cars like this multiple times. The DBC has always taken the adaption and been good.. its the DBW cars that can give you problems and need VAG-Com.

but at last, both cars can be done in this method.

[ZimbutheMonkey]

I've tried the key on adaptation on my DBC and it never worked.

[black99.5a4]

I've tried the key on adaptation on my DBC and it never worked.

then you're doing it wrong..lol no idk why. i've done it at least a hundred times on my 99.5 over the last 3 years.

[ZimbutheMonkey]

Beats me, I've had my battery run down twice and both times I needed VAG-COM. When you did yours had you just disconnected the terminals or was it a case of the battery draining? I'm wondering if there's a difference between the two conditions.

[black99.5a4]

Beats me, I've had my battery run down twice and both times I needed VAG-COM. When you did yours had you just disconnected the terminals or was it a case of the battery draining? I'm wondering if there's a difference between the two conditions.

its all been with battery disconnected.. most were long periods.. like weeks of doing stuff to the car. IDK if there is a difference between battery drain or not, I hve an OEM battery from 05 in my car that is still good.

on my 01.5 car.. it hadnt seen a battery since Nov of 09 and the battery died when it was parked in 09, i stuck a battery in it, new engine wiring, new TB and it needed a new ECU (car was partially parted out) and it fired right up without hesitant and idled perfect. No VAG-COM adaption, just a turn the key on for a bit.

[xdewaynex]

Shes alive but not running good. Runs extremely rich, when you can get it started. It takes several attempts to get it started. I drove it down the road, and it acted as if its not running on all 4 cylinders.

[cruciform]

thinking of going the same route- looking forward to the review..

[b5a418]

What other spark plugs would be recommended besides the BKR7E?

Geeky, Ill keep you updated on everything. I have to visit C2 tomorrow to pick up the 3" maf housing that I forgot to get.

I would try the Bosch F6 DTC.I had problems with meth and burning plugs out. I had tried 5 different plugs and the bosch F6 DTC was the only one that worked for me. I have a 1998 a4 with dahlback tuning,k04,meth,5 bar fpr,and all the bolt ons.

[geeky]

So Ive been reading up on a LOT of the frankenturbo threads and charts etc. it seems that the frankenturbo is VERY comparable to the gt2x in which case, I'll probably end up running a GIAC PC-16 setup once more on the AEB and the Uni 2+ on an AWM

[ZimbutheMonkey]

Shes alive but not running good. Runs extremely rich, when you can get it started. It takes several attempts to get it started. I drove it down the road, and it acted as if its not running on all 4 cylinders.

So have you tried to get a throttle body adaptation?

The other possibility is that you've left a hose unattached. I know when I did my K04 I had left the bottom charge hose unattached and it would barely get out of the driveway.

[xdewaynex]

Before I started the car, I turned the key over and let it set, the throttle body made a buzzing sound for a bit and I could hear it click as it moved. Checked all the pipes and they were on pretty good.

[uberpassat]

Sounds the same as my Passat a couple years back. Find someone with VAG-Com and do a TBA. More than likely, thats what it is.

[Doug@FrankenTurbo]

So Ive been reading up on a LOT of the frankenturbo threads and charts etc. it seems that the frankenturbo is VERY comparable to the gt2x in which case, I'll probably end up running a GIAC PC-16 setup once more on the AEB and the Uni 2+ on an AWM

For AEB I'd give C2 Motorsports a look. For DBW cars, a smaller company called Motoza Performance has been developing files. Both companies are working off of 415cc / 440cc fueling.

[geeky]

Slappy great to hear from you. If that's what you suggest, I'll definitely go that route. You'll soon be hearing from me for an order :D

[xdewaynex]

Hopefully a friend is coming down tonight to run vag-com on my car and see what codes im having and recalibrate the throttle body correctly.

[Papa_Dios]

Good to hear. Hope you get it running soon!!

[geeky]

Hopefully a friend is coming down tonight to run vag-com on my car and see what codes im having and recalibrate the throttle body correctly.

post up a video as soon as it runs well. and let us know how it pulls etc (especially if you can get a dyno run in)