Dewayne's Brilliant Yellow A4 Build

[xdewaynex]

After looking into the Frankenturbo setup and reading a few threads, I believe Im going to pull the trigger on it. Im not looking to have a race car, just something fun to daily and do a little spirited driving. I will be installing it on my 98 Quattro AEB engine. I was on the phone with 2 local dealers, Grossman Tuning who deal with Revo and C2 Motorsports, who have their own tunes, and Slappy had actually asked if anyone has used them. C2 Motorsports is probably the way Im leaning towards. Theyre claiming 280hp with their Stage 5 tune, 42lb 440cc injectors, K04, 70mm maf housing, and stock fpr. Im hoping to get all the stuff together real soon, install it myself and get everything going as quick as I can. If any way possible to reach 230awhp like the B6 A4 got the Frankenturbo and Unitronic tune, Ill be happy.

[ZimbutheMonkey]

You'll be happy with it, it's a great middle ground for those who don't want to sacrifice low end torque and don't feel like committing to a GT series setup. Bang for the buck HP, short of an initial reflash it doesn't get much better than this.

[xdewaynex]

All the videos, dyno charts and threads Ive read about it, they all seem really promising. The seals in my k03 are going out, and I figured if I was going to spend the money just to get a stock replacement, why not spend a little more cash go a little bigger and more hp.

[magnum46]

All the videos, dyno charts and threads Ive read about it, they all seem really promising. The seals in my k03 are going out, and I figured if I was going to spend the money just to get a stock replacement, why not spend a little more cash go a little bigger and more hp.

Hey, keep us updated. I am looking for a kit as well and would like to learn from you experience with FrankenTurbo

[xdewaynex]

I will try my best. Im hoping to place my order for the Turbo kit in the next day or so, then I will go from there.

[Dynamite]

Awesome! finally someone with an AEB going with the franken. I thought I was going to be the 1st but back at uni so cant afford it this summer after all :( maybe in the winter.
what clutch are you thinking of going with?
one of the b6 guys got to 240awhp with water/meth but the torque was at 260awtq (lbft) thats better than most turbo setups period on the 1.8t.
awesome little turbos, I expect vids as well because the B6 buys are being slack about taking them.
Good on you looking forward to the results. take photos as well.

[MikeD7]

I will try my best. Im hoping to place my order for the Turbo kit in the next day or so, then I will go from there.

Who are you ordering it thru?

[xdewaynex]

For right now, Im keeping the stock clutch and saving to upgrade shortly after. Im still not sure which one to go with, I want something thats going to handle the upgrade, but comfortable for daily driving. I will be ordering the turbo straight from Frankenturbos website.

[explosionsteve]

I was in contact with Doug and asked about a Group Buy. He seemed interested, just wasn't sure about what venue to open it to. If we can get the kit for $999 Shipped, I think we would be able to get people interested. This is all hypothetical. I would be in, would you wait to see if we can get a GB in the works?

[xdewaynex]

A group buy would be a great idea if they didnt take soo long top get setup and people interested and not back out. I would be in for one, if I wasnt trying to get this done as quick as possible.

[MikeD7]

A group buy would be a great idea if they didnt take soo long top get setup and people interested and not back out. I would be in for one, if I wasnt trying to get this done as quick as possible.

Pm'd

[ZimbutheMonkey]

ECS has a good deal on a single mass S4 clutch conversion. It'll be good for the power that you'll be putting out. Myself, when I did my 5 speed conversion I got a SPEC stage 3+ with a used 9lb Aluminium flywheel. I was absolutely blown away by it's driveability. It's got a 510 ft/lb holding capacity, unsprung clutch and a light flywheel. However it's perfectly tractable in stop and go and the clutch effort is just like stock. In fact when I first bled down the clutch hydraulics I thought I had an air bubble in the lines as it was way lighter than I expected. Anyway, that whole SPEC setup costs more than the ECS S4 clutch. However if you plan on going bigger in the future at least you're set up for it.

[xdewaynex]

Ill have to check into that S4 clutch. I definitely want a nice feel of the pedal, nothing to stiff.

[Urtorsen]

Hey, keep us updated. I am looking for a kit as well and would like to learn from you experience with FrankenTurbo

x2 on this...just waiting on refunds to work a budget,would be cool to get a group buy on some of the parts for sure

[Dynamite]

I have herd some bad reviews about the ECS system. I think i will be looking at either a fx300 or fx400 on the stock flywheel. does anyone know if there is a way to tell how worn out your flywheel is without looking at it?

[Audiman78]

I have installed the Frankenturbo already and I am currently trying to figure out what i'm doing about tuning. I have GIAC already so I can get a PC16 (KO4 Hammer File) for cheap. With Doug's help (Frankenturbo Genius) I believe I can make the PC16 file work. My hopes are at least 300ft/lbs. GIAC claims 295ft/lbs with just a Ko4 and this Fh4-L I know will destroy a ko4. Here are some pics of the install. More to come with updates on software. Current set up. 97 A4 1.8t Quattro. Intake Spacer, 034 silicone hoses, Apikol SMIC, Frankenturbo set up (turbo, TIP, 3in MAF). 3in testpipe to 2.5in exhaust with single muffler. Once I get software I will be dynoing at AWE tuning.

Chris

[ricekikr]

Get the fx400 (240mm Steel Flywheel). Just installed it very good clutch , my previous clutch was a fx400 228mm. Pedal was relatively soft, somewhat similar to my stock Isuzu Diesel SUV.

There's a slight learning curve though. But drive it for one day and you'll be ready for the "grabbiness". But sometimes I wish I got the fx300 240mm :)

Weird thing though, my old 228mm clutch squealed when engaging, this 240mm doesn't and is a lot less grabby.

[xdewaynex]

Chris (Audiman) What was the total time for taking the old turbo and manifold off and getting the Frankenturbo installed? Did you go with new oil lines or reuse the stock ones?

[Audiman78]

I put new oil feed line on. Don't have to but my car has 200k miles and i figured it wouldn't be a bad idea. If you just blow it out it should be fine if your running good oil. I used my ATP manifold that I already had on it. Very similar to Frankenturbos manifold. Total time was approx 3hrs, but I do this for a living......

[ZimbutheMonkey]

Highly recommended that you change the supply line. What I did was go to a local shop (greenline) and get a braided hose with a teflon interior made up. Just bring them your old supply line and use it as a template for length and fittings. I think it cost about $60, but it's interior diameter is way larger and it's not going to be filled with 10 years worth of crud. Oil starvation is the #1 turbo killer so $60 can save you a lot down the road.

[xdewaynex]

Its a good thing Ive got a Greenline a couple miles from the house.

[ricekikr]

My hopes are at least 300ft/lbs. GIAC claims 295ft/lbs with just a Ko4 and this Fh4-L I know will destroy a ko4.

Stock rods? Isn't 300ft/lbs the limit of stock rods on a quick spool turbo?

[mtg729]

I put new oil feed line on. Don't have to but my car has 200k miles and i figured it wouldn't be a bad idea. If you just blow it out it should be fine if your running good oil. I used my ATP manifold that I already had on it. Very similar to Frankenturbos manifold. Total time was approx 3hrs, but I do this for a living......

Hows it running with that mileage? My car is at that mileage now and runs strong but a tad bit weary about putting that turbo on and pushing that much BHP on stock higher mileage internals. Dont feel like blowing anything out.

[ZimbutheMonkey]

Stock rods? Isn't 300ft/lbs the limit of stock rods on a quick spool turbo?

Yeah, GIAC says a lot of things.... they also say that their tip chip gives ".2 second superbike shifts"

[ZimbutheMonkey]

Hows it running with that mileage? My car is at that mileage now and runs strong but a tad bit weary about putting that turbo on and pushing that much BHP on stock higher mileage internals. Dont feel like blowing anything out.

If you've done your oil changes regularly and have your timing belt up to date you'll be fine, especially if you have an AEB. They're tough little engines. As for the trans, if it were a tip at 200,000 mi I'd be a little concerned. But if it's a 5 speed, just put in a single mass conversion and go to town. Maintenance, or lack thereof on these cars is the biggest factor IMO.

[mtg729]

If you've done your oil changes regularly and have your timing belt up to date you'll be fine, especially if you have an AEB. They're tough little engines. As for the trans, if it were a tip at 200,000 mi I'd be a little concerned. But if it's a 5 speed, just put in a single mass conversion and go to town. Maintenance, or lack thereof on these cars is the biggest factor IMO.

My car is a AWM 5 speed quattro. Maint is up to date and I have records since 800 miles. Car has only ever seen full synthetic oil since new and meticulous maint from the previous original owner. I dont need anything crazy just something with more kick. Considered K04 but the cost to power ratio between the K04 upgrade and frankenturbo the latter is the better deal.

[waveblaster200]

My car is a AWM 5 speed quattro. Maint is up to date and I have records since 800 miles. Car has only ever seen full synthetic oil since new and meticulous maint from the previous original owner. I dont need anything crazy just something with more kick. Considered K04 but the cost to power ratio between the K04 upgrade and frankenturbo the latter is the better deal.

I have a K04-15 on a AWM, I went Unitronic Stage 2 + with the TT225 MAF and 386cc injectors and I'm really happy! But wish I would have gone with the Frankenturbo or a Elim kit off the bat but the car pulls really well and spools quick and is a good DD car! That Apikol SMIC is great for the money, dropped my IATs by a lot! Enjoy

[spindoctor]

I have installed the Frankenturbo already and I am currently trying to figure out what i'm doing about tuning. I have GIAC already so I can get a PC16 (KO4 Hammer File) for cheap. With Doug's help (Frankenturbo Genius) I believe I can make the PC16 file work. My hopes are at least 300ft/lbs. GIAC claims 295ft/lbs with just a Ko4 and this Fh4-L I know will destroy a ko4. Here are some pics of the install. More to come with updates on software. Current set up. 97 A4 1.8t Quattro. Intake Spacer, 034 silicone hoses, Apikol SMIC, Frankenturbo set up (turbo, TIP, 3in MAF). 3in testpipe to 2.5in exhaust with single muffler. Once I get software I will be dynoing at AWE tuning.

Chris

I can't remember who told me this(been a while) that someone here ran a GT28 on a PC16 file and used an APEXi SFC tapped into the MAF, and got it tuned with a wideband monitor. Oh, also ran an MBC. Didn't mention anything about adjustable FPR but I do think you'll be needing one.

[Audiman78]

Stock rods? Isn't 300ft/lbs the limit of stock rods on a quick spool turbo?

If you look at the graphs from Frankenturbo they do spool quickly, but it does not "spike" like ko3/ko4s it is a smooth increase. I am not worried about rods. My one friend ran a 3071r on 30psi for almost a year until he bent a rod. He also has full 034 standalone though.

[ricekikr]

If you look at the graphs from Frankenturbo they do spool quickly, but it does not "spike" like ko3/ko4s it is a smooth increase. I am not worried about rods. My one friend ran a 3071r on 30psi for almost a year until he bent a rod. He also has full 034 standalone though.

Ah ok, good to know .

[xdewaynex]

440cc injectors are purchased. Waiting on a message to see about getting all the necessary gaskets and bolts for the swap. Once I get that, everything will be good to go.

[Doug@FrankenTurbo]

440cc injectors are purchased. Waiting on a message to see about getting all the necessary gaskets and bolts for the swap. Once I get that, everything will be good to go.

What software will you go with? Are you running a MAP-sensor equipped car? Or are you an AEB?

[xdewaynex]

What software will you go with? Are you running a MAP-sensor equipped car? Or are you an AEB?

I will be going with C2 Motorsports Stage 5 tune. My car is an AEB.

[MikeD7]

440cc injectors are purchased. Waiting on a message to see about getting all the necessary gaskets and bolts for the swap. Once I get that, everything will be good to go.

Pm'd you. I am going to throw in all the gaskets need for free.

[zatch_303]

would a 2001 need new rods for the frankenturbo setup?

[ZimbutheMonkey]

No

[xdewaynex]

Thanks to MikeD7 for making my day. Just placed the order with him through his website hausofdub.com

[MikeD7]

Thanks to MikeD7 for making my day. Just placed the order with him through his website hausofdub.com

Thanks!

[nic2000quattro]

GIAC claims 295ft/lbs with just a Ko4 and this Fh4-L I know will destroy a ko4.

Im not having a go, but why do people talk of the fh4-l as being some kind of monster? Has anyone done a direct comparison b/w say a giac pc-16 ko4 and a fh4-l tune? I mean in terms of driving the two? It's still a small turbo only slightly bigger than a std ko4... I love to feel the difference..

[nic2000quattro]

*I'd love to feel the difference. See how they actually compare, it can't be that much surely?? Fantastic price though have to give it to slappy