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    DIY: Winter Wheel Swap

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    Everyone knows: Seattle drivers + snow = EPIC FAIL.

    Every year, it's always the same.

    This year, I decided I not to risk driving on the stock summer tires, and to purchase a dedicated set of winter wheels.

    I had never purchased or swapped wheels before - so I didn't have much experience to draw upon. Thanks to doing a fair amount of research and reading though a number of threads it ended up being pretty painless. Here's what you need to know if you're interested in doing a swap yourself.


    Step 1: Know your specs.

    Know exactly what you're starting with. I'm starting with the 2010 OEM 19" wheels. Here are their vital stats:

    19" five tri-spoke wheels.
    Size: 19" x 8.5", offset = 43 mm, centerbore = 66.56 mm

    I believe the stock 18" wheels are 18" x 8", offset = 47mm, centerbore = 66.56mm. I'm not 100% certain about the offset on these wheels, if someone knows the offset for certain, let me know and I'll edit this post.

    The stock lug bolts & bolt pattern is:

    * Lug bolt head requires a 17mm socket, and is 'ball seated'.
    * OEM lug bolt shafts are 14mm wide, 1.5 thread, 32mm long.
    * Bolt pattern is: 5 x 112.
    * Torque setting is: 90 ft-lbs.

    When selecting a second set of wheels, it's important that they have the same bolt pattern (5 bolts around a 112mm diameter circle, commonly known as 5 x 112). It's also important that the wheel centerbore be the correct size (66.56mm or 66.6mm). Depending on your personal preference and tire selection you have a small amount of freedom when it comes to the offset. The offset indicates how far out (or in) the hub's mounting surface is from the centerline of the rim. You don't want your wheels sticking out from underneath the fenders, nor do you want them too sunken in. Different wheels have different offsets that work best, so make sure to speak with your wheel manufacturer to make sure you choose the right offset.

    Lastly, decide how large a wheel to shop for. Smaller & narrower wheels are your best choice for winter. They'll give you more sidewall cushion and the narrower wheels will not need to plow as much snow. For looks you'll want a larger wheel, and for maximum performance you'll want a wider rim. But these are just general rules of thumb, do your research and select what will work best for your specific needs. TireRack.com has a large selection of articles on winter tire selection. Give those a read if you're considering winter tires.


    Step 2: Order wheels & tires.

    I don't want to tell you where to shop for wheels - wherever you decide, make sure the wheels meet the technical requirements above. Make sure to specifically review the offset, bolt pattern & centerbore. Some designs may require wheel spacers (imagine a thick washer with 5 holes drilled around it that will sit behind the wheel). I don't have any experience using a wheel spacer, but I've seen enough threads complaining about them that I would recommend avoiding wheels that require spacers to fit.

    For my winter wheels, I selected VMR v710's in Hyper-Silver. They look great and I think it's nice to support forum sponsors.



    These wheels come in multiple sizes. I went with 18" x 8.5", offset = 35mm, centerbore = 66.6mm.

    I've never had winter tires before, so I wasn't sure exactly what to select. I've heard a number of people say that All Season tires would be good enough, and others recommend Winter tires. After reading a few of the TireRack winter articles (see above), and this article from Car & Driver, I decided I would go with a set of Winter tires. I've had great experiences with Michelin's in the past, and after looking at the Winter poll results on TireRack I decided on the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3's. Size is 245/40-18".


    Step 3: Installation.

    Disclaimer: Lifting your car and replacing the wheels is a task normally performed by professional, competent mechanics. If performed incorrectly, both the wheel replacement process & resulting installation can cause serious injury or contribute to an accident. DO NOT attempt this procedure if you're not comfortable assuming these risks yourself.

    The wheels arrived with the tires already mounted and balanced, so we can get straight to the installation.

    Start by putting a wheel stop/chock behind the wheel you are NOT changing. Make sure your car will not move around as you work on it.

    Next, lift your car at the designated jacking point. There are four identified jacking points, each identified by a small arrow indentation under the rocker trim. Just behind it you'll find a seam weld that is not covered with plastic. This is where you want to lift. Don't use a flat jacking surface to lift here, it can bend the weld or possibly slip. I used the Eastwood jack adapter to securely grab the seam & lift, but I've heard others recommend the Protech Side Lift pad (click 'Addl Images' for more pics).



    Once lifted the existing wheel can be removed. Remove the lug bolt caps and remove the bolts. Be careful not to scrape your rims with your 17mm socket. I used a protective socket set from Griots Garage, although ECS Tuning also has a nice set. To loosen the bolts, I used a breaker bar from Home Depot. It has a swiveling head and is perfect for the job. Once the bolts are off it may take a bit of effort to pull the wheel loose. Be careful not to bang the wheel on the brakes or hub.

    Once lifted, take the opportunity to clean out any large debris that's accumulated in the wheel well.

    Now the new wheel can be installed. For this, I highly recommend using a lug bolt guide tool. It's a small peg you can screw in to the top lug bolt hole and then you can use it as a hangar or guide for the new tire. When ordering one, make sure to get the right size: 14mm x 1.5. Again, I got mine from Griots, but ECS Tuning also has one.

    Here's the clean wheel well with the guide tool installed.



    Next, tighten the lug bolts 'hand tight'.



    Now, use a torque wrench to tighten all the bolts to 90 ft-lbs. Tighten them in a star pattern. If you labeled the bolts 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 in a clockwise manner, tighten them in this order: 1, 3, 5, 2, 4. I go through the pattern twice to make sure that every bolt is seated properly. The wrench I used also came from Home Depot. Before you change the tire check your wrench to make sure it can do 90 ft-lbs. (My old wrench wasn't large enough and I had to run out and grab a new one).



    Lastly, replace the center cap and lug bolt covers, repeat for the other three wheels, and you're done!



    Step 4: Keep a journal.

    Lastly, to keep track of my wheel wear, I made sure to write down my mileage & date when the original wheels were removed. I've also noted & registered the serial numbers of the new wheels (use the form provided with your new tires). After cleaning the original wheels I also took note of where each wheel was installed, so I can rotate them correctly when I re-install them in the spring.

    Step 5: Enjoy the result!

    Here are some pictures on my freshly washed & waxed 2010 S4.
    Again, these wheels are the 18", 35mm offset, VMR v710's in Hyper-Silver.
    Tires are the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3's. Size is 245/40-18".

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    quick question, would be be ok to use a ball seat lugs on a conical wheels? thank you
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    I was under the impression the factory center caps did not fit the VMR wheels, but clearly I've been wrong. Do they snap in place/feel as solid as they do on the stock wheels?
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    i hate when peoples winter setups are my summer setup, lol



    oh well, nice car though!

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    looks great dude...these wheels show the breaks nicely but a pain in the ass to clean.

    running the thing in gunmetal.

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    Looks great Tails!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn View Post
    I was under the impression the factory center caps did not fit the VMR wheels, but clearly I've been wrong. Do they snap in place/feel as solid as they do on the stock wheels?
    While not all of the OEM Audi caps are a proper fit, the cap with part number 4B0 601 170 A should be a perfect fit!

    For those of you looking to run locks, I'd had quite a few customers run RAD Locks with success. Mike@PureMS should be able to help you out, check out his thread here -> http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ight=RAD+Locks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Congratulati0ns View Post
    quick question, would be be ok to use a ball seat lugs on a conical wheels? thank you
    Always use the matching seat lug bolt for the wheel, using the incorrect style can result in the bolt not holding torque and backing out, taken to the extreme this could result in a wheel coming off while driving.

    After installing new wheels re-torque the lugs after driving for 100miles. New wheels have paint in the lug pockets, this paint gets crushed by the bolt and can result in the bolt holding less than specified torque.

    For those changing wheels and tires themselves please do not use the factory jack, it is for emergency use only and even then should be used with extreme caution. Please purchase a real jack and jackstands for safety when working on your car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyler@Achtuning View Post
    Always use the matching seat lug bolt for the wheel, using the incorrect style can result in the bolt not holding torque and backing out, taken to the extreme this could result in a wheel coming off while driving.

    After installing new wheels re-torque the lugs after driving for 100miles. New wheels have paint in the lug pockets, this paint gets crushed by the bolt and can result in the bolt holding less than specified torque.

    For those changing wheels and tires themselves please do not use the factory jack, it is for emergency use only and even then should be used with extreme caution. Please purchase a real jack and jackstands for safety when working on your car.
    Definitely some good information!

    It has indeed been documented that using the improper seat lug (Conical V. Ball) can cause major issues. If in doubt, contact the manufacturer of the wheels and they should be able to guide you in the right direction.
    Last edited by VMRWheels; 12-21-2010 at 11:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Congratulati0ns View Post
    quick question, would be be ok to use a ball seat lugs on a conical wheels? thank you
    Absolutely not. Majority of aftermarket wheels come with a new set of lug bolts when you buy them new though.

    Same with a spacer, if you have to run spacers to fit your wheels you have to buy extended lug bolts also. But the company that sells you the spacers should have already recommended which lug bolts to buy to make that process easy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tails64
    Disclaimer: Lifting your car and replacing the wheels is a task normally performed by professional, competent mechanics. If performed incorrectly, both the wheel replacement process & resulting installation can cause serious injury or contribute to an accident. DO NOT attempt this procedure if you're not comfortable assuming these risks yourself.
    Your thread made me feel very competent in doing this, so I decided to finally throw my new winter wheels on also. However, my jack fell over and not only screwed up my new wheel, but also cracked my front rotor and bent a bunch of other stuff. Expect a court summons in the mail this week, I think you'll have until the end of January '11 to submit a response.
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    OP: nice write-up, thanks for including all of the supporting links. My current car has a built in flat jack-point, but I'll be getting one of those lift adapters for the S4. Nice jack BTW, I have their 3.5ton long-throw--good stuff.
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    Tails64,
    I think you are correct on the stock 18" wheel offset, ET=47. These are pictures of the back of my OEM 18" wheels,
    before I sold them.


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    By the way, this Eastwood adpater worked fine with my floor jack on the B8 S4, standard jacking points.

    http://www.eastwood.com/floor-jack-a...odel-cars.html

    I have never used the guide pin, but it would make the job easier. I usually hold the tire in
    place with one hand and my knee, while I start the first bolt.
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    Same technique for me, but in the spring, I'll be getting the guide. A few times, the wheel has slipped slightly, and I'm afraid of damaging the brakes.

    Quote Originally Posted by wwhan View Post
    By the way, this Eastwood adpater worked fine with my floor jack on the B8 S4, standard jacking points.

    http://www.eastwood.com/floor-jack-a...odel-cars.html

    I have never used the guide pin, but it would make the job easier. I usually hold the tire in
    place with one hand and my knee, while I start the first bolt.
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    I got the steel guide pin from ECS Tuning. It works great and no more trying to balance a wheel/tire while trying to thread in that first bolt. Highly recommended!

    And just a reminder for those with aftermarket wheels with conical-seat bolts: don't forget to carry a set of 5 OEM ball-seat bolts in the car just in case you ever need to mount the spare tire. You don't want to mount the spare with the conical-seat bolts!
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    You mention the offset as being very important but also say that there is some leeway. You ordered a wheel with an 8mm difference in the offset. How can I be sure the wheel I order will fit properly in my well?

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    When you're changing the variable of the overall width of the wheel, the range of offsets that will fit change also
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    Might as well post this in here. Has anyone noticed a creak after jacking up their car? After I swapped my winter's on I have a pretty bad creak over bumps and especially driveways on what sounds like the driver's side B pillar. I've never had the problem on any of my other cars nor on the other side (that I've noticed) and I find it odd that the chassis would be stressed enough to cause a creak.

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    I recently changed my wheels to VMR V708. Just curious, are we suppose to rotate them every 5000 miles?

    BTW, nice write up :)

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    That's a tire question. You are supposed to rotate them every 5k miles. But the same "people" also tell you to change your oil every 3k miles. Granted engine technology improves in time, but still I feel that's an old gimmick as far as rotating your tires THAT much...

    I've found that if your car is lowered, you should rotate your tires as often as possible. Even after full alignments, the insides of my tires are always worn more in the rear from negative camber or whatever it is. But at stock or "oem sport" height, I feel rotating tires maybe every 6 months is fine. I have different summer/winter setups, so I just keep track of what corner the tire was on and then "rotate" that position next year when I put them back on. People have their opinions though
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    Here's just one example of tire rotation schedules; 2005 VW TDI Jetta that commutes about 36 miles one way with 80ish% highway, pretty easy on throttle. It has 225/45/17 Toyo Proxes 4's and got 70,000 miles on them rotating every 10,000. Could've went a little longer but it was December and we were getting hammered with snow so changed them out.

    Would they have went longer with 5000 mile rotations, tough call. For what it's worth, Les Schwab said it's the most (miles) they've seen them go.

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    ^ I drive maybe 20,000mi/yr tops. Me having 2 sets of wheels (winter/summer) with dedicated tires, each receiving roughly 50% of the year's driving. So technically, I am rotating my tires every 10,000mi when I "swap seasonal tires".

    I feel better about myself now
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    Looks good. Any vibration issues at 60-70mph?
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    This is a great write up VMR! Do you need Tire Pressure Sensors too? If so how much are they or best place to purchase. Thanks

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    Don't need TPMS, our system is an ABS system. It reads how many rotations per second (minute?) and if it changes by "x"% it will set the light off.

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    Thanks Apexit1! Thought we had TPMS..huh didn't know that. One less thing I need to worry about.. or for that matter .. spend more money on!!

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    Where is the DIY for Summer Wheel Swap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr bryan View Post
    Where is the DIY for Summer Wheel Swap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by B8 S FOR View Post
    Thanks Apexit1! Thought we had TPMS..huh didn't know that. One less thing I need to worry about.. or for that matter .. spend more money on!!
    Just to be clear, we do have a TPMS system but it does not use the in wheel sensors that the first systems used.

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    just hoping for some advice. i have this jack: http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en

    It looks like the plate has some grooves. Would I damage the car if I use this without the plate the the OP used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiNoobCAN View Post
    just hoping for some advice. i have this jack: http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/brows....jsp?locale=en

    It looks like the plate has some grooves. Would I damage the car if I use this without the plate the the OP used?

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    There are several types of jack pads that can be used to protect the pinch welds on the S4:

    http://protechproducts.com/index.php...ory&path=35_37

    http://www.eastwood.com/floor-jack-a...odel-cars.html

    I have the Protech pad #1007 (there are two sizes available - 1006 and 1007) and it works fine for me. This pad squishes down about 1/4" with the weight of the S4 on it, so I felt it was important that the Protech pad would fit snuggly on my floor jack. You don't want this kind of pad to fall off the jack while the car's weight is on it - that could be dangerous. I had to use a dremel tool to shave it down a little to fit the steel jack head on my floor jack.



    Here's the jack I use it with, rated for 4400lbs capacity.



    I looked at the link you provided for the "Certified Hydraulic Trolley Jack" you have and have some concerns for your safety, especially after reading the reviews on that website. Here are some excerpts from that website:

    "I recently purchased one of these jacks. I replaced my 15 yr old jack which was the same model at one time. Boy has the quality of these jacks ever changed. I swapped the black circle which is at the top of the jack with the one from the old jack because it was bigger. The new jack's frame is alot lighter duty, it wants to tip when you have it jacked up high, and it doesn't even jack as high as I would like." and "Not meant for big job at all. the lifting part is way too small, damages sub frames and makes a small dents underneath. ... 2 tons are only good for changing tires and my jack start leaking in 7 months. Need warranty and possibly look for an upgrade."

    For your personal safety, I highly recommend investing in a jack that is of better quality - this one is entry level and without much lift height. The price on this jack shows as $28.49 (the Protech pad is $23.95). Even if you're only planning to lift the S4 to change winter to summer wheels (and vice versa), you owe it to your safety, and the protection of your car to have a quality floor jack. If you are not willing to upgrade to a better quality floor jack, then be absolutely sure to use a decent jack stand(s) - every time you are lifting your car to change wheels or any other work.
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    i have some jack stands would you put them on the jack lifting points?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiNoobCAN View Post
    i have some jack stands would you put them on the jack lifting points?
    Using jack stands is highly recommended, but with the car raised up on the floor jack, you'll notice that it can be challenging to get the jack stands close to the jack lifting points (marked on the car's rocker panel with the embossed triangle). Get them as close as you can though and you should be okay. They're there to help the car from falling on you in case your jack fails.

    If you're planning on putting your car up on 4 jack stands at the same time, e.g., to do work under the car, you might want to consider car ramps instead. Others are free to comment with their solutions/recommendations ...
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    I have been seriously looking at a set of these which I found scrounging in the Porsche forums:

    http://www.jackpointjackstands.com/

    Not cheap but heck, neither is our car so I think its worth it. Pretty cool idea and I've been in communications with John the inventor. For me, I'm looking for something a little bit taller to work under the car. He says it's in the works but no time frame. These will work swell for a tire change and uses the stock jack points and have pinch weld adapters to boot! Save a hockey puck today!
    He did have a special price/discount for the Porsche forum and I can inquire for Audiziners. [I am not affiliated in any way with jackpoint jack stands]. He also did say he's working on some more unique, model specific adapters for V-dubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You-S4-It View Post
    I have been seriously looking at a set of these which I found scrounging in the Porsche forums:

    http://www.jackpointjackstands.com/

    Not cheap but heck, neither is our car so I think its worth it. Pretty cool idea and I've been in communications with John the inventor. For me, I'm looking for something a little bit taller to work under the car. He says it's in the works but no time frame. These will work swell for a tire change and uses the stock jack points and have pinch weld adapters to boot! Save a hockey puck today!
    He did have a special price/discount for the Porsche forum and I can inquire for Audiziners. [I am not affiliated in any way with jackpoint jack stands]. He also did say he's working on some more unique, model specific adapters for V-dubs.
    Cool! Thanks for sharing this info!!! It solves the problem of how to fit the jack and jack stand in the exact same lifting point! I'm going to measure my AC jack tomorrow to make sure it will fit in the stand's opening and think about placing an order!!! (A discount would be great!!!)

    Thanks again!
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    Just rotated my tires. Ill need a set of jack point stands too.
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    I understand jack stands if you're going to work under the car. But to switch tires, one at a time? It seems of limited benefit, and just adds more time to the process.

    The factory thinks a scissor jack is enough for changing tires, a good floor jack is far beyond that in terms of stability and capacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomh009 View Post
    I understand jack stands if you're going to work under the car. But to switch tires, one at a time? It seems of limited benefit, and just adds more time to the process.

    The factory thinks a scissor jack is enough for changing tires, a good floor jack is far beyond that in terms of stability and capacity.
    While I agree with you on swapping winters to summers and vice versa, if you're rotating tires, you need at least one jack stand and a jack to remove both tires on the same side (assuming you're doing front/rear swap) at the same time.

    As I mentioned, for me, I'm looking for a taller set for under car work but still thought the concept of the jacks were cool. YMMV.
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    the previous jack wasn't even high enough...thanks for the tips
    ended up going with something similar to this one:
    http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product....=1&topnav=&s=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by LYKUNO View Post
    Cool! Thanks for sharing this info!!! It solves the problem of how to fit the jack and jack stand in the exact same lifting point! I'm going to measure my AC jack tomorrow to make sure it will fit in the stand's opening and think about placing an order!!! (A discount would be great!!!)

    Thanks again!
    LYKUNO and BALLZ (and anyone else).

    Here's the contact info to get a discount on the jackpoint jackstands:

    Email John Walton and ask for the AZ forum discount:
    [email protected]




    Again, I don't personally have any involvement nor do I actually have the stands themselves. As previously mentioned, I'm holding out for the taller set whenever they come out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LYKUNO View Post
    There are several types of jack pads that can be used to protect the pinch welds on the S4:

    http://protechproducts.com/index.php...ory&path=35_37

    http://www.eastwood.com/floor-jack-a...odel-cars.html

    I have the Protech pad #1007 (there are two sizes available - 1006 and 1007) and it works fine for me. This pad squishes down about 1/4" with the weight of the S4 on it, so I felt it was important that the Protech pad would fit snuggly on my floor jack. You don't want this kind of pad to fall off the jack while the car's weight is on it - that could be dangerous. I had to use a dremel tool to shave it down a little to fit the steel jack head on my floor jack.


    Use a hockey puck and cut a groove in it. Works perfectly for 3 bucks.

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