B8 S4 H&R Springs

[nizmosx]

The b8 s4 classifieds section doesn't get too much traffic so i wanted to post them on here.

I have a set of springs for sale.
These springs are currently at raven motorsports. They are brand new in the box and are a 1.5" drop. If you have any questions dont hesitate to ask. 300 shipped obo

BRAND NEW IN BOX although the rears were installed on the car when we realized they were not the 1.2 inch drop the customer wanted.

email me at [email protected] for any questions.

thanks guys

[krunko]

Hey, that's me getting the 1.2" drop, yipee.

[Voltrons_Head]

Cuz, your car is gonna look so money with that drop. I love mine.

[finesta101]

Yup 1.2" is the way to go. I think it looks perfect, got the same thing on mine.

[mdma2004]

ECS tuning... shipped is 280, where did u get ur 300$ shipped from?

[Michael S.]

Question for everyone... Can these springs be used on a ADS equipped S4? Is that a recommended application?

Thanks!

Mike

[Voltrons_Head]

Question for everyone... Can these springs be used on a ADS equipped S4? Is that a recommended application?

Thanks!

Mike

I have ADS and this is why I purchased these instead of coilovers. ADS functionality remains but comfort mode is meaningless now as far as the ride is concerned.

[patinsd]

look like the price online is going from $280 to $440 .
How mutch did you guys pay ?
Just got a quote from a local shop to install .
$499 with alignement .
What do you think ?

[Voltrons_Head]

look like the price online is going from $280 to $440 .
How mutch did you guys pay ?
Just got a quote from a local shop to install .
$499 with alignement .
What do you think ?

Sounds like a good deal.

[vincent9993]

I have ADS and this is why I purchased these instead of coilovers. ADS functionality remains but comfort mode is meaningless now as far as the ride is concerned.

My car is comming with ADS and I would really like you to expand on this. I've been contemplating going with H&R OE but live in Montreal and we have less than prestine roads. I went with ADS in part to have the Comfort setting for when I have to chauffer the inlaws... I was hoping I could still drop 1.2" but retain the comfort setting.

If you could expand on your experience, that would be great.

TIA

[Voltrons_Head]

It's more like stiff, stiffer, stiffest now. Not in a bad way but comfort just isn't comfort anymore.

[adbender]

My car is comming with ADS and I would really like you to expand on this. I've been contemplating going with H&R OE but live in Montreal and we have less than prestine roads. I went with ADS in part to have the Comfort setting for when I have to chauffer the inlaws... I was hoping I could still drop 1.2" but retain the comfort setting.

If you could expand on your experience, that would be great.

TIA

Just installed oe sports with ads.

The comfort is still plenty pliant for some crappy roads...i actually like it better as its not as "soft" but still nicely dampened.

[patinsd]

Just installed oe sports with ads.

The comfort is still plenty pliant for some crappy roads...i actually like it better as its not as "soft" but still nicely dampened.

What size of tire do you have 18 or 19 ?
When you drove your car just after getting the spring changed ,did you notice any difference in quality of riding or it's not noticable ?

[adbender]

What size of tire do you have 18 or 19 ?
When you drove your car just after getting the spring changed ,did you notice any difference in quality of riding or it's not noticable ?

19s...

overall IMO, ride quality is improved marginally with superior dampening.

[adbender]

My case: have been searching the forums and elsewhere for feedback on this and sitting on fence yet after several months in spite of many people having made contributive feedback & many people having done. My 'own' understanding as result is (for ADS equipped vehicles);
- Appearance wise, best reference is to various pic files on forums
- Technically, best to change shocks WITH matching springs, although many owners do change springs only - point in case here, S4 B8 owners w/ADS
- Performance w.r.t. ride stiffness, is well documented in respective threads here and over at AW forum - feedback varies from 'some stiffer difference' to 'full negation of stock comfort mode' sus setting.
- Performamce w.r.t. ADS shock life durability, (which is what I've been so anal to myself about), is largely based on subjective / objective opinions i.e. not a lot of data or metrics to define a response.
/ Worst case you have to replace ADS shocks at much earlier time than anticipated V's likely not at all if stay stock setup. According to my Dealer - Japan - shocks will not be covered by warranty if spring specs are changed from stock.
/ Best case you get drop appearance and performance you expected and don't have to replace ADS shocks before you sell. As ADS is operating w/non spec'd Springs and has to work harder as a result, the life duration will depend on amount of drop chosen and on driving style / use by owner. Eg Even w/H&R OE Springs or Eibach ProKit, for same vehicle a more aggressive braking / hard turning etc will result sometime in shorter life than that of 'smoother' driver - applies of course regardless of ADS or not. Of lesser but some impact, I have heard that even the difference between 18" V's 19/20" wheels will have a certain impact on life, as there's less sidewall thickness on bigger rims to compliment the functioning of shocks.
Maybe have gone a bit off topic to your question - 'for ADS' not sure there is a recommended drop / spring, but following logic noted in various threads it would seem the less the better V's owner needs for drop appearance & stance w.r.t. replacing shocks earlier ;-) Again, there seems not much data to evaluate if / when shocks 'might' have to be replaced. Like the old Nike add said, 'Just do it' :-)

dude...you have been debating springs for quite some time.

pull the trigger and then deal with the unknown!

[adbender]

I have ADS and this is why I purchased these instead of coilovers. ADS functionality remains but comfort mode is meaningless now as far as the ride is concerned.

VH...you are running 20s right?

That may be a factor with your experience...

I agree that comfort is no longer the Cadillac ride it was, but they soak up city streets well.

[Voltrons_Head]

VH...you are running 20s right?

That may be a factor with your experience...

I agree that comfort is no longer the Cadillac ride it was, but they soak up city streets well.

True. I also ride the streets of Jersey and Philly. Nuff said.

[LeadToRome]

dude...you have been debating springs for quite some time.

pull the trigger and then deal with the unknown!

heh, I was pretty much exactly like him, "paralysis by analysis" had definitely kicked in. A few days ago I said the hell with it and bought some KW V2's...they're on their way, I can't wait!

[S4Tokyo]

dude...you have been debating springs for quite some time.

pull the trigger and then deal with the unknown!

LOL...point understood. As circumstance or 'time' would have it, I'm right there re pulling trigger. I'll do you an additional favor though and delete the original post avoiding you further headache, assuming you pass this thread again. Of course that only deletes half the offending text now;-)

[S5noob]

I have ADS and this is why I purchased these instead of coilovers. ADS functionality remains but comfort mode is meaningless now as far as the ride is concerned.

So are you saying that the ride is markedly less comfortable as before in comfort mode after installing the lowering springs on ADS? Everybody seems to be telling me lowering springs on the B8 will not affect comfort, and I don't believe them, cos every car I owned with lowering springs from H&R or Eibach had a harsher ride after installing, without exception.

Edit: I just read the replies above. Seems like it is more or less a general acceptance that the ride is less comfortable than stock. This is especially true for ADS since, as you said, comfort is no longer comfort.

[Voltrons_Head]

heh, I was pretty much exactly like him, "paralysis by analysis" had definitely kicked in. A few days ago I said the hell with it and bought some KW V2's...they're on their way, I can't wait!

Good deal, Allroad. Your car will look great with the right drop. Be sure to post some pics.

You should also be looking into 5mm spacers for the front and 10mm spacers for the back. Removing the wheel well liner screw in the front wells may be necessary with the spacers. The stance will be sick.

[Voltrons_Head]

So are you saying that the ride is markedly less comfortable as before in comfort mode after installing the lowering springs on ADS? Everybody seems to be telling me lowering springs on the B8 will not affect comfort, and I don't believe them, cos every car I owned with lowering springs from H&R or Eibach had a harsher ride after installing, without exception.

Edit: I just read the replies above. Seems like it is more or less a general acceptance that the ride is less comfortable than stock. This is especially true for ADS since, as you said, comfort is no longer comfort.

I only use the word comfort in this sense because that's what the setting is called and its purpose is to be somewhat cushy. Ride comfort is subjective and I very much like a sporty stiffer ride. It should just be known that the anyone with ADS wishing to retain the ability to use the comfort setting and expecting the same cushiness will be disappointed.

As previously pointed out though, I have 20" wheels and 30 series tires.

[Voltrons_Head]

It looks so much better!!!

Before



After

[adbender]

I agree...big improvement!

[Voltrons_Head]

Looks perfect.

[wwhan]

Voltrons_Head,

I prefer the color of the second picture (after).

Height (& car) looks looks great, but the wheels diameter seems too big?

[Voltrons_Head]

Hey wwhan,
Color in both pics is the same, meteor. Its pearl so changes in the light. As for wheel size I think 20inch looks best on the b8 but you will suffer performance wise. To each his own. If you like 18s make it happen. We mod the cars so they are perfect for each one of us. Happy Modding!

Tron

[wwhan]

Voltrons_Head, I was kidding you about the color, I know Meteor changes color.

I considered Meteor, but decided it was more work to maintain than the Ibis.

The blue & green shades that occur in certain lighting for Meteor, I like very much, the brown shade, not so much.

Yes, wheels size is all about personal preferences. It is nice that we have many choices.

[madmadS4]

Hey wwhan,
Color in both pics is the same, meteor. Its pearl so changes in the light. As for wheel size I think 20inch looks best on the b8 but you will suffer performance wise. To each his own. If you like 18s make it happen. We mod the cars so they are perfect for each one of us. Happy Modding!

Tron

hang on. are you this guy:


or this guy:

[Voltrons_Head]

I was kidding you about the color

Duh. Of course you were.

Yes, wheels size is all about personal preferences. It is nice that we have many choices.

The guy 2 houses down from me has a base model A4 and it's funny to see the 17's and the 20's next to each other.

[Voltrons_Head]

MM, If I get to choose I'll be this guy.

[wwhan]

I guess the picture under the Tron guy is Voltron's head?

My first car had 14" wheels.

Yeah, putting the 17" on a B8 next to a B8 with 20" wheels would look pretty funny.

My last car had 17" wheels, so the incremental move up to 18" was enough for me & the 18" tires are cheaper & have more all weather choices than the 19"s.

[madmadS4]

lol... I don't watch Chapelle but this is funny. I'm more of a Jon Stewart guy.

[Ryan_T]

I only use the word comfort in this sense because that's what the setting is called and its purpose is to be somewhat cushy. Ride comfort is subjective and I very much like a sporty stiffer ride. It should just be known that the anyone with ADS wishing to retain the ability to use the comfort setting and expecting the same cushiness will be disappointed.

As previously pointed out though, I have 20" wheels and 30 series tires.

I find ADS Comfort is still comfortable enough with HR Sports. And the fact that you have ADS at all means you can at least bring back some level of cushiness to the car.

If stock comfort level is Soft - Normal - Hard, with springs, they'll be more like Normal - Hard - Harder. But at least you get to buffer the difference when you want to.

[wwhan]

I wonder if the ADS S4 has different springs, than the non ADS S4s? We already know the ADS cars have a smaller
rear sway bar, since sway is reduced by the dampers in dynamic/auto mode.

[Ryan_T]

Check the part numbers?

[wwhan]

Yes, checking the part numbers would give the answer. Would need to find a helpful Audi dealer parts person.

[GoM's]

For those who are running springs, do you plan on upgrading your shocks if you haven't already? I am on the verge of ordering coils or springs from AWE for when my car arrives but would like some opinions on which would be better option. I have sport diff but not ADS. More concerned with long-term reliability.

[S4Tokyo]

For those who are running springs, do you plan on upgrading your shocks if you haven't already? I am on the verge of ordering coils or springs from AWE for when my car arrives but would like some opinions on which would be better option. I have sport diff but not ADS. More concerned with long-term reliability.

Have ADS in my case, but only replacing springs at this time. Decided if / when ADS sus goes then I replace at that time, Parts & fitting here is $3K (ADS sus is $650/wheel), so guess package can be done for half that in NA.

[2010S4]

For those who are running springs, do you plan on upgrading your shocks if you haven't already? I am on the verge of ordering coils or springs from AWE for when my car arrives but would like some opinions on which would be better option. I have sport diff but not ADS. More concerned with long-term reliability.

I have ADS so I am just replacing the springs since I don't want to loose the ability to adjust my suspension. If you don't have ADS then I would say get the coilovers.