Turning the Flywheel

**DRock3d** · 10-27-2010 02:33 PM

Okay guys, I'm two bolts away from having this oil pan off and I need some help with the flywheel situation. What is the easiest way to turn the flywheel, I don't like the idea of draining all the coolant so if there is a way around that please share. I want my Audi up and running again now that I have all my parts in. Thanks for the input!

**sean1.8t** · 10-27-2010 02:58 PM

putting the car in the service position is the only way i know of. you can drain the coolant into a clean container and then put it back in when you the car back together.

this is one of many reasons it's great to have a single mass flywheel. i replaced my oil pan without haveing to touch my LWFW

**guy022077** · 10-27-2010 04:35 PM

take sparkplugs out, and you should be able to turn the crank pulley and PS pulley by hand to turn the engine.

**DRock3d** · 10-27-2010 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by guy022077

take sparkplugs out, and you should be able to turn the crank pulley and PS pulley by hand to turn the engine.

Why do the spark plugs affect that? Just curious.

And thanks, I'd much rather do this because taking off the front is just extra work I don't want to do and I don't have the bit to turn the crank with.

**walky_talky20** · 10-27-2010 07:55 PM

Without the spark plugs, compression does not build in the cylinders, which is actually what makes turning the engine difficult.

Another method is to put the car in 5th gear and roll it forward, but it only works with a manual transmission. Also, you probably have the car jacked up to drop the subframe and such, so that probably isn't the solution for you.

**DRock3d** · 10-27-2010 08:04 PM

Ahh the compression makes sense. And yes I can't roll the car at the moment. Thanks for the help guys, I hate being so busy when my only time to work out the Audi is extremely limited. Maybe I should throw out the girl who seems to come over just in time to take me away from the Audi and College work

**walky_talky20** · 10-27-2010 08:07 PM

Pics of said girl, please.

**terraflata** · 10-27-2010 08:33 PM

X2

We will decide if kicking her out is a smart idea.

**DRock3d** · 10-27-2010 09:11 PM

Okay, just because walky suggested.

**DRock3d** · 10-28-2010 04:28 PM

No response....should I be concerned?

Edit: Now I'm concerned, what did you mean by hand. As in just grab on and twist or am I going to have to take off the front end to crank it with a breaker bar?

**guy022077** · 10-28-2010 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by DRock3d

No response....should I be concerned?

Edit: Now I'm concerned, what did you mean by hand. As in just grab on and twist or am I going to have to take off the front end to crank it with a breaker bar?

i mean by hand, with front end off ground, spark plugs out, car out of gear, i was able to turn the PS pulley and crank together by hand to turn the motor

**revolution337** · 10-28-2010 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by DRock3d

Okay, just because walky suggested.

**DRock3d** · 10-28-2010 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by guy022077

i mean by hand, with front end off ground, spark plugs out, car out of gear, i was able to turn the PS pulley and crank together by hand to turn the motor

I can't get it to budge, plugs are out, I don't know if I'm just a weak pussy or what lol I'm only trying on the power steering pulley I can't get to the crankshaft pulley. What am I doing wrong? Oh and I'm one bolt away, it's like a swift kick in the balls that I can't get this one out.

**bigblue** · 10-28-2010 07:30 PM

Lol, get that pig to turn man. You gotta turn the crank, you can't get at it from below somehow? Fyi you got a hottie there. Now wheres a pic of said car?

**guy022077** · 10-28-2010 07:41 PM

well you could put it in gear 5th or reverse and try and turn the wheels, if you only have to move it a little, it just might work. are you using a 5mm allen or a 10mm socket? an allen should not require that much clearance

**DRock3d** · 10-29-2010 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by bigblue

Lol, get that pig to turn man. You gotta turn the crank, you can't get at it from below somehow? Fyi you got a hottie there. Now wheres a pic of said car?

Haha she is pretty hot, if only you could see her like I get to

I need to take updated photos, the emblem is chrome and it looks a ton better

And good thing I decided to order a new snub mount, this is bad lol

Originally Posted by guy022077

well you could put it in gear 5th or reverse and try and turn the wheels, if you only have to move it a little, it just might work. are you using a 5mm allen or a 10mm socket? an allen should not require that much clearance

I can't turn the wheels because the car is jacked up in the front or can I turn the fronts only? I have an extended ball point allen, it barely made it for the other bolt, I had to turn it with a monkey wrench, this one can't even touch the bolt because of the subframe. I'm about to just cut the bit until it fits I'm tired of this bullshit. At least I'm getting a lot of good things done in the process, snub mount, cam tensioner gasket (which I hope isn't another bitch of a job) and a lot of good cleaning under there.

**guy022077** · 10-29-2010 09:02 AM

oh? my apologies are you using any kind of engine lift or anything like that or is the car just jacked up off of the ground?

you can get a 2x4 and undo the motor mounts and tranny mounts then jack the engine up a bit to get the clearance.

**DRock3d** · 10-29-2010 09:05 AM

The engine is jacked up as high as it can go, I don't know how to get the subframe any lower all the mounts are undone. I just need to find a shorter ball point allen bit if I can.

**guy022077** · 10-29-2010 10:08 AM

how about the transmission, did you attempt to get a jack under there to level the assembly out? with the motor jacked up you should have plenty of room,odd.

**DRock3d** · 10-29-2010 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by guy022077

how about the transmission, did you attempt to get a jack under there to level the assembly out? with the motor jacked up you should have plenty of room,odd.

Well it's jacked up from the transmission which has the engine raised to about max.

**DRock3d** · 10-29-2010 05:26 PM

Finally got it out, I cut down the allen bit and continued the monkey wrench method. Now I don't have enough clearance to remove the oil pan, this is rough. And the old oil pan didn't have a gasket....is this normal?