BMW high pressure fuel pump recall (FYI)

[Tanner]

BMW use electronics to drive the hpfp unlike the ones in Audi's which is driven off a cam.

Plus failures happened when the car was still new or relatively new, unlike the 2.0Ts where the cam just slowly wears out and needs to be replaced (hopefully only the cam) at high mileage.

It would be interesting to see how many complaints, if any, to the NTSB on similar experiences with the 2.0T at high mileage - ie.: tried to accelerate onto the highway and the car wouldn't go anywhere making it unsafe, etc.

http://jalopnik.com/5673591/how-fans...ulty-fuel-pump

[event]

You know before clicking the link I was thinking, "who cares..." but if we could get a recall, that would be great. I don't like having to check my follower and before I do, I get this rush of fear right before looking at it. I just know one time I pull it out, it's going to have a hole in it.

[sumkid]

Yeah that cam shit is old and need to be recalled also these god damn head lights. I think that driving at night on the highway add all of a sudden one light will dip and then the other is worse then a car going into limp mode due to a bad hpfp.

[swoardrider]

Recall is a definite must. There is such any easy fix for Audi. All they have to do is copy the roller follower fix that H20 came up with. At some point, someone with a VW or Audi is going to try and merge onto a freeway and get fuel cut which will lead to a fatal wreck. There will be be a big lawsuit, and VAG will cough up millions and get bad PR like Toyota did with the Prius. Until then, they will just TSB this joke of a design. I can never understand how big business doesn't understand smart business practices.

[Tanner]

As much as we like to see that happen it isn't. And that's the thing there aren't enough complaints of this issue like what bmw owners have done where the pump just cuts out unexpectedly while ours degrade slowly over time.

Plus the cost to do what h2o has done on a massive scale won't happen either

[Sprode]

Recall is a definite must. There is such any easy fix for Audi. All they have to do is copy the roller follower fix that H20 came up with. At some point, someone with a VW or Audi is going to try and merge onto a freeway and get fuel cut which will lead to a fatal wreck. There will be be a big lawsuit, and VAG will cough up millions and get bad PR like Toyota did with the Prius. Until then, they will just TSB this joke of a design. I can never understand how big business doesn't understand smart business practices.

Ever see fight club?

[mikebo212]

Ever see fight club?

LOL

[beantown]

As much as we like to see that happen it isn't. And that's the thing there aren't enough complaints of this issue like what bmw owners have done where the pump just cuts out unexpectedly while ours degrade slowly over time.

Plus the cost to do what h2o has done on a massive scale won't happen either

Well we can always hope; appreciate the info my man.

Ever see fight club?

Wow, obscure reference FTW.

[jmars]

The real issue I have is for the person who buys a preowned 2.0T only to go 10K and end up with a 2-3K bill. Not all buyers are enthusists and snice its not part of maintenance scheduling then how would one realize? Audi is screwing potential future customers.

[greensto]

Recall is a definite must. There is such any easy fix for Audi. All they have to do is copy the roller follower fix that H20 came up with. At some point, someone with a VW or Audi is going to try and merge onto a freeway and get fuel cut which will lead to a fatal wreck. There will be be a big lawsuit, and VAG will cough up millions and get bad PR like Toyota did with the Prius. Until then, they will just TSB this joke of a design. I can never understand how big business doesn't understand smart business practices.

If only the H20 roller follower was cheaper and not such a PITA to install (sending hpfp out)

[quickaudi07]

To all of you out there, good freeken luck.... My car was at Audi for over 3 weeks trying to figure out why its running so rich and it wasn't really drivable. They told me it might be my ECU because it was chipped. Well that wasn't the problem, it was that Freeken pace of junk HPFP that went bad and they wanted to screw me on over 1250$. I have replaced the pump and put a new flower in it and the car drove normal after that. After telling them what i did, they couldn't believe it. So good luck with the recall on lapms, hpfp and other crap. My warranty is up next year, and I don’t know if I will go with another AUDI! I love the car but there is way to many problems. Yes Toyota and Honda don’t look that impressive as Audi, but you get your money worth when you buy one of them. My buddy of mine has a Honda Accord MT trans, has over 170K miles on it and never had a problem other than brakes, tires, and oil change. That’s a car that you want if you plan on driving it for a while. Audi can’t even come close to that.
I'm very upset with all of these problems that I have with my Audi, I'm ready to burn that B*t*c* down and call it a day!.


My next car for sure it wont be Audi, as you see I'm a very angry person if it comes to Audi's. When i look at some of the post bad Cam bad HPFP, it just makes me sick. HPFP 420$ + 60 for follower = either you do it your self or have someone replace it for you.
if cams go bad you are out the door at 2100$ if not more!
So is it really worth of getting another Audi, Thank about it twice next time when you plan on buying one :)

Enjoy the rest of the day guys!

[event]

Ever see fight club?

Haha, yeah I imagine it's worth it for then to not fix it.

[greensto]

I have replaced the pump and put a new flower in it and the car drove normal after that. After telling them what i did, they couldn't believe it.

I wouldn't have believed it either. Maybe there's your problem...

[Dangler]

My buddy of mine has a Honda Accord MT trans, has over 170K miles on it and never had a problem other than brakes, tires, and oil change. That’s a car that you want if you plan on driving it for a while. Audi can't even come close to that.

Enjoy the rest of the day guys!

Someone please page Marty from Dvag...

[R1NSE]

Had mine replaced under warranty .... thank you CPO 100k warranty

[swoardrider]

To all of you out there, good freeken luck.... My car was at Audi for over 3 weeks trying to figure out why its running so rich and it wasn't really drivable. They told me it might be my ECU because it was chipped. Well that wasn't the problem, it was that Freeken pace of junk HPFP that went bad and they wanted to screw me on over 1250$. I have replaced the pump and put a new flower in it and the car drove normal after that. After telling them what i did, they couldn't believe it. So good luck with the recall on lapms, hpfp and other crap. My warranty is up next year, and I don’t know if I will go with another AUDI! I love the car but there is way to many problems. Yes Toyota and Honda don’t look that impressive as Audi, but you get your money worth when you buy one of them. My buddy of mine has a Honda Accord MT trans, has over 170K miles on it and never had a problem other than brakes, tires, and oil change. That’s a car that you want if you plan on driving it for a while. Audi can’t even come close to that.
I'm very upset with all of these problems that I have with my Audi, I'm ready to burn that B*t*c* down and call it a day!.


My next car for sure it wont be Audi, as you see I'm a very angry person if it comes to Audi's. When i look at some of the post bad Cam bad HPFP, it just makes me sick. HPFP 420$ + 60 for follower = either you do it your self or have someone replace it for you.
if cams go bad you are out the door at 2100$ if not more!
So is it really worth of getting another Audi, Thank about it twice next time when you plan on buying one :)

Enjoy the rest of the day guys!

One thing I've learned from the car industry is that stereotyping car manufacturers on a geographic level is pretty damm accurate. Mostly due to the way different cultures approach engineering. European cars generally look more appealing, have the leading technology, but use trial and error design approaches at a public level. Japanese cars are slowly tweaked to perfection then, released to the public, thus improving reliability. American car mentality seems to be "more is better" and if it breaks, "just buy more".
So if you are wanting 150k+ mile reliability, you shouldn't be in an Audi.
But I agree that if there is a known catastrophic failure design that can be easily fixed, a car manufacturer has a moral responsibility to properly fix it, regardless of a company's policy. A revision B cam is NOT the proper fix, Audi!

[Tanner]

And if you know that there is a design fault with the engine, have it checked once in a while. At least when all this talk about cam follower and hpfp issues, I got mine checked out before the warranty expired.

Sure you can drive a Honda and it's bullet proof perhaps, had a 97 Accord actually. I'll sum it up nicely, extremely reliable (a few issues but just minor really) but boring to drive. No thanks, I'll stick to european cars.

[quickaudi07]

Everyone has there own preference in cars and what they like to drive. Yes I would love to get RS4, awesome mean machine. But I can’t afford that right now, so I stick with what I have. I would like the car to be more reliable, and yes I agree with others its fun to drive the car. European cars are very nice and well build. I always had stick shifts cars and I don’t think I will never go to automatic unless I get a suv or something. But at this moment since I have a new born at home (girl) I need something that won’t brake and it will take me and my family where I have to go. So when I say reliable I really mean it, it’s gonna suck seeing the car go, but on the other hand it will be a big stress reliever of paying for all the expensive parts and work to be done.

Everyone has there own say all the time so I wont put a argument there, as far as HPFP it should be a recall on Audis. Also cams should be a recall as well. The new engines 2.0T for VW and Audi are build and have been redone where pump sits at. Because they had too many problems with the engines!

[quickaudi07]

One thing I've learned from the car industry is that stereotyping car manufacturers on a geographic level is pretty damm accurate. Mostly due to the way different cultures approach engineering. European cars generally look more appealing, have the leading technology, but use trial and error design approaches at a public level. Japanese cars are slowly tweaked to perfection then, released to the public, thus improving reliability. American car mentality seems to be "more is better" and if it breaks, "just buy more".
So if you are wanting 150k+ mile reliability, you shouldn't be in an Audi.
But I agree that if there is a known catastrophic failure design that can be easily fixed, a car manufacturer has a moral responsibility to properly fix it, regardless of a company's policy. A revision B cam is NOT the proper fix, Audi!

I though Audi's were good cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Untill i got one and have nothing but problems with it. Now i know better.. You pay for the name AUDI but coponents in the car are pice of shit. So combine 2 toghether and you F either way :)
If you spens over 20K on a car if not more, you expect the car to drive not brake all the time. Mybe i just got the bad batch of Audi cars lol

[viziers]

To all of you out there, good freeken luck.... My car was at Audi for over 3 weeks trying to figure out why its running so rich and it wasn't really drivable. They told me it might be my ECU because it was chipped. Well that wasn't the problem, it was that Freeken pace of junk HPFP that went bad and they wanted to screw me on over 1250$. I have replaced the pump and put a new flower in it and the car drove normal after that. After telling them what i did, they couldn't believe it. So good luck with the recall on lapms, hpfp and other crap. My warranty is up next year, and I don’t know if I will go with another AUDI! I love the car but there is way to many problems. Yes Toyota and Honda don’t look that impressive as Audi, but you get your money worth when you buy one of them. My buddy of mine has a Honda Accord MT trans, has over 170K miles on it and never had a problem other than brakes, tires, and oil change. That’s a car that you want if you plan on driving it for a while. Audi can’t even come close to that.
I'm very upset with all of these problems that I have with my Audi, I'm ready to burn that B*t*c* down and call it a day!.


My next car for sure it wont be Audi, as you see I'm a very angry person if it comes to Audi's. When i look at some of the post bad Cam bad HPFP, it just makes me sick. HPFP 420$ + 60 for follower = either you do it your self or have someone replace it for you.
if cams go bad you are out the door at 2100$ if not more!
So is it really worth of getting another Audi, Thank about it twice next time when you plan on buying one :)

Enjoy the rest of the day guys!

Ok I see a couple things wrong here... For one not all B7's are bad,as I have an 05.5 and have not had any issues other than the PCV, window reg and maybe 1 or 2 other things minor.....

The other is, where in gods name did you get your prices from??? The HPFP is at most 265 brand new, cam follower is at most 45 shipped and the cam is I think 350 witH ALL required gaskets, seals and whatnot.


vizi

[quickaudi07]

Ok I see a couple things wrong here... For one not all B7's are bad,as I have an 05.5 and have not had any issues other than the PCV, window reg and maybe 1 or 2 other things minor.....

The other is, where in gods name did you get your prices from??? The HPFP is at most 265 brand new, cam follower is at most 45 shipped and the cam is I think 350 witH ALL required gaskets, seals and whatnot.


vizi

Audi at OrlandPark IL 60441 look at the zip code and call them up. also 9.5% tax.

[quickaudi07]

Ok I see a couple things wrong here... For one not all B7's are bad,as I have an 05.5 and have not had any issues other than the PCV, window reg and maybe 1 or 2 other things minor.....

The other is, where in gods name did you get your prices from??? The HPFP is at most 265 brand new, cam follower is at most 45 shipped and the cam is I think 350 witH ALL required gaskets, seals and whatnot.


vizi

I was saying if Audi does the job for you. I wasn't saying DO It Your Self :)

[elwigglero]

I though Audi's were good cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Untill i got one and have nothing but problems with it. Now i know better.. You pay for the name AUDI but coponents in the car are pice of shit. So combine 2 toghether and you F either way :)
If you spens over 20K on a car if not more, you expect the car to drive not brake all the time. Mybe i just got the bad batch of Audi cars lol

Eh?

[viziers]

My next car for sure it wont be Audi, as you see I'm a very angry person if it comes to Audi's. When i look at some of the post bad Cam bad HPFP, it just makes me sick. HPFP 420$ + 60 for follower = either you do it your self or have someone replace it for you.
if cams go bad you are out the door at 2100$ if not more!
So is it really worth of getting another Audi, Thank about it twice next time when you plan on buying one :)

Enjoy the rest of the day guys!

Hehehehe.



vizi

[quickaudi07]

Hehehehe.



vizi

LMFAO :)