Flashpoint Catbacks @ $799, full systems $1549.. Take a listen

[StratJohn]

Quick clip of our Flashpoint exhaust system.



The details:

2.25" mandrel bent 304L Stainless Steel tubing.
Flanged sections- easy on, easy off, interchangeable, won't slip position.
200-cell Catted downpipes (catless available as well)
Quad tips for B7
Dual tips for B6 (available in black or polished)

As a catback, on stock DP's, its quite quiet inside, excellent tone outside. (Comparable to Milltek New Non-Res lite)
As a full system, interior sound level are completely reasonable.

Who's it for?
Maybe you've been on stock exhaust too long.
Maybe you're a broke college student.
Maybe you spend a lot of time driving, and don't want something intrusive (but you still need to set off car alarms).
Maybe you're bored with your current sound.
Maybe you were at H2Oi and heard MrCorey's noggie ripping the strip.. or heard the black b6 at our booth, and want in.

Who it's not for:
Anyone bitching about it not being 2.5" (relax, wait)
Anyone planning to go forced induction in the future
Cabs (sorry! I haven't checked fitment!)
H-pipe or X-pipe debaters



So lets recap:
$799 catback, $1549 catted/manifold back.

Check em out.

Happy to answer any questions!

[GarrettReid]

I'd buy the quad tip in a heartbeat if it'll fit on a 2007 FWD CVT

[whartung]

I'd buy the quad tip in a heartbeat if it'll fit on a 2007 FWD CVT

dude... these exhausts are for a 4.2 V8. Not only will they not fit your car, but any alternative they have wont sound anything like it...

[jfunkey]

The details:

2.25" mandrel bent 304L Stainless Steel tubing.
Flanged sections- easy on, easy off, interchangeable, won't slip position.
200-cell Catted downpipes (catless available as well)
Quad tips for B7
Dual tips for B6 (available in black or polished)


Who's it for?
Maybe you've been on stock exhaust too long.
Maybe you're a broke college student.
Maybe you spend a lot of time driving, and don't want something intrusive (but you still need to set off car alarms).
Maybe you're bored with your current sound.


Who it's not for:
Anyone bitching about it not being 2.5" (relax, wait)
Anyone planning to go forced induction in the future
Cabs (sorry! I haven't checked fitment!)
H-pipe or X-pipe debaters
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Happy to answer any questions!

If your a broke collage student why would you spend this much money on a exhaust thts not much better or BIGGER then stock?

Even if your never planning on going Forced induction in the future you still dont want 2.2. Im 100% N/A and I picked up a good amount of power going to 2.5.

As for X or H pipes there isn't a debate..there needed and they work

The exhaust has a decent sound to it but 800$ is a lot of money just to change the sound of your exhaust if you ask me

[drew]

dude... these exhausts are for a 4.2 V8. Not only will they not fit your car, but any alternative they have wont sound anything like it...

lol...effin newbs...

[StratJohn]

Jfunkey.
A broke college student who drops $799 on a 2.25" catback is not going to notice anything different (other than more interior noise*) compared to dropping that or more on a 2.5" system. Because it's a cat-back.
Even on a downpipe system, 2.25" makes some power without being terrible inside. Noticeable power**. It's about balance. I'll take a car I love to drive every day that gives me no headache over a car with a couple more hp that pisses off my passengers.

Not everyone who wants the 4.2 to sound sweet is going to try and beat every possible HP out of it, because that path can cost big dollars*** in a hurry.
(Which is why I clearly state that its not for everyone)

The H-pipe/X-pipe debate can stay in its own threads; sound is subjective**** and the power variances are not there for a cat-back*****. For a manifold back system, on a catless 2.5, we could talk. But its not, so we won't.

Now- that being said, its not an attack and I completely understand your standpoint. You fall into the latter category. Which, the lighter colored text in there, is for you. Can you just reduce the hate until I aim for your attention? Haha. Thanks.

Disclaimers and notes, because this crowd loves to tear into people:
* not suggesting all 2.5" systems drone.
** averaging 25hp with downpipes is noticeable to most drivers
*** going beyond downpipes+ catback
**** it is. its an opinion
***** I don't think I've seen tested/repeatable variances of more than like 7hp, but hey.

[drew]

i think it sounds pretty good. definitely good price point for a full-back, hell it's less then the milltek downpipes themselves...

are the strat downpipes 2.5"?

[StratJohn]

Thanks drew. They are 2.25.. but.. read the light text.

[drew]

Thanks drew. They are 2.25.. but.. read the light text.

no worries. not to take this off topic but would you say the milltek 2.5" downpipes sound different from other brand downpipes?

i have the millteks with my fi catback and it sounds better the FI fullback IMO...

i can't figure out what it is...

[StratJohn]

Catless or catted? Some times its toss between cat dimensions, angles of inlet to outlet, flex type/location.. stuff like that. Glad you like it though!

[drew]

Catless or catted? Some times its toss between cat dimensions, angles of inlet to outlet, flex type/location.. stuff like that. Glad you like it though!

catted.

[StratJohn]

Yep, in that case, its about flow. Cone shapes before and after the catalyst affect both speed and direction of the gasses, as they enter and as they exit. These slight variations are what changes the tone. In the worst reference ever, its the different between blowing over a wine bottle top and another 750ml bottle. Same capacity, different shape, different tone.

[BrianL]

I met Corey at the show, but didn't hear his car. Good dude, and he mentioned that he knew you guys.

Do you offer your downpipes separately, and would they bolt up to a cat back that bolts up to stock downpipes?

[jfunkey]

Jfunkey.
A broke college student who drops $799 on a 2.25" catback is not going to notice anything different (other than more interior noise*) compared to dropping that or more on a 2.5" system. Because it's a cat-back.
Even on a downpipe system, 2.25" makes some power without being terrible inside. Noticeable power**. It's about balance. I'll take a car I love to drive every day that gives me no headache over a car with a couple more hp that pisses off my passengers.

Not everyone who wants the 4.2 to sound sweet is going to try and beat every possible HP out of it, because that path can cost big dollars*** in a hurry.
(Which is why I clearly state that its not for everyone)

The H-pipe/X-pipe debate can stay in its own threads; sound is subjective**** and the power variances are not there for a cat-back*****. For a manifold back system, on a catless 2.5, we could talk. But its not, so we won't.

Now- that being said, its not an attack and I completely understand your standpoint. You fall into the latter category. Which, the lighter colored text in there, is for you. Can you just reduce the hate until I aim for your attention? Haha. Thanks.

Disclaimers and notes, because this crowd loves to tear into people:
* not suggesting all 2.5" systems drone.
** averaging 25hp with downpipes is noticeable to most drivers
*** going beyond downpipes+ catback
**** it is. its an opinion
***** I don't think I've seen tested/repeatable variances of more than like 7hp, but hey.

In the end it sounds ncie and is priced right. just want to make sure the FACTS are out there

There is proven gains from both X and H regardless of the system the same is true with going bigger then the OEM..Look My only comments are that there is a difference in going bigger then 2.2 on a stock Dp.

Also saying there is a debate over weither X pipes make a difference in performance of an exhast is like saing there is still a debate on weither then world is flat.. Both sound and performance are going to be changed..

This is no debating that. simple research will show that to be true

You know me. im 100% power over sound so that is going to be a sticking point. I love the sound but from a power stand point there is going to be a difference with the size and lack of corssover

I still think the system your selling sounds better then 2.5 catbacks at the same price.. so its down to what the end user is looking for....but facts are facts.

[StratJohn]

jfunkey: most of the facts apply above 2.25" diameter tubing though, to see those results. And there, I certainly agree. This won't be our only offering either.
This system is a fantastic balance of sound, performance, and price. Increasing either of those three begins to showcase some negatives.

BrianL: You certainly can get just the DP's. Now, since the system is flanged, you'll have to whip up adapters to whatever system you want to mate it to.
It should be easy to do.

[jfunkey]

jfunkey: most of the facts apply above 2.25" diameter tubing though, to see those results. And there, I certainly agree. This won't be our only offering either.
This system is a fantastic balance of sound, performance, and price. Increasing either of those three begins to showcase some negatives.
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Yes I wasn't for a second saying its not a great option for the price and when I ask some questions there not ment to be abrasive more so a open path way to your thoughts.

Obviously adding an X and a larger dia will cost more. this is as you stated not so much for performance as it is for sound and something a little better then stock

[Mr. Corey]

I still think the system your selling sounds better then 2.5 catbacks at the same price.. so its down to what the end user is looking for....but facts are facts.

I've had 3 different exhausts on my car and going from a Miltek to Strats non-res x-pipe was night and day difference in power and throttle response. Way better top-end too! After rocking that for a yr and half I tried the above system with the straight rears and fell in love with my car all over again. The sound is just intoxicating and I don't ever wanna let off the throttle when I drive now. Does it sound better than a FI fullback....? Hell yes!! and you can't beat it for the price.

[StratJohn]

jfunkey: dont get me wrong I'm pickin up what you're puttin down. I blame the internet for any misconceptions.

monsieur corey: plus, uh, ripping the strip all night was pretty sweet. as well as adventures afterwards!

[AudiTechS4]

catted.

I've got the milltek catted dp's and i think they sound different too but good

[B6JoeS4]

your vid in the OP no workie

[Naudi04]

your vid in the OP no workie

^^ 2nd this.

[StratJohn]

^^ fixed!

[BrianL]

Thanks John. What would just the downpipe price be? I'd be mounting them to a Corsa catback.

[StratJohn]

$750 for catted downpipes.

[whartung]

Thanks John. What would just the downpipe price be? I'd be mounting them to a Corsa catback.

you'd be better off going with a 2.5" system since the Corsa is as well.

[BrianL]

Yes, I know, but I could probably swing suspension, and their downpipes at the same time. :)

Thanks John!

[Mr. Corey]

jfunkey: dont get me wrong I'm pickin up what you're puttin down. I blame the internet for any misconceptions.

monsieur corey: plus, uh, ripping the strip all night was pretty sweet. as well as adventures afterwards!

H20 was a blast!!!!!!!!! some fun adventures for sure. You going to any more shows or GTG's this year...?

[J0HN_R1]

Has the system been dyno'd on enough cars (back to back vs. stock) to get an average HP gain #...?

And by (relax, wait), do you mean "we're coming out with the 2.5" version in the near future"...?

[StratJohn]

Corey I think we're done for major shows this year. What else is left? Snow ain't far away (shhh i know)..

John_R1, I certainly would have said "relax, go away" otherwise

[Whatset]

^Any possibility of placing the cat in the main position for the 2.5 model? You'd be heros.

This \/ one is still vaporware as far as I can tell.

[StratJohn]

Removable cat in main position, in fact. Some of us still have to pass emissions, haha.

[Whatset]

AWD Emissions? OBD2 to the rescue!

Just like everything else these days - if the computer says its so, it is.

[mbgt72]

Is pricing the same for catless DP? Also do you have any pictures of the dp's?

[StratJohn]

Nah catless DP's are only $350. Easier to get these and have a direct bolt up than say, full piggies. I'll grab a photo in a few minutes.

[mbgt72]

Jesus, $350, if those are 2.5" then you don't even need to be advertising the catback, just advertise catless 2.5" DP's for $350 and you'll make a killing! The millitek was a great deal at $600 in a group buy!

[StratJohn]

These aren't, which I AM AWARE everyone is gonna throw hate on. Again, relax, see above posts. In the mean time, these are better to bolt up like full piggies without the hogging or anything.