aS4driver wins Swift Motorsports dyno day w/ his TiAL 605 car

**DaveM@EPL** · 10-26-2010 09:02 AM

Congrats to Evan and his EPL/TiAL 605 car for dominating the Swift Motorsports / UCONN dyno day in Norwich, CT on Saturday.

The car drove up there on 93 pump fuel, was strapped to the dyno and threw down 487whp on Swift's Dyno Dynamics dyno, easily winning the overall contest, amongst STIs, EVOs, and some domestic muscle. The next most powerful car was a 440whp Porsche 911 turbo w/ bolt-ons, which was no match for the TiAL 605s. Thank you Evan for representing the S4 so well!

**EErie B6** · 10-26-2010 09:04 AM

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awesome news though

**RONDAL** · 10-26-2010 09:08 AM

uggghhhh my tials cannot come fast enough!

**PAT@RSW** · 10-26-2010 09:11 AM

Can't wait to get my 770's on !

**ubermidget** · 10-26-2010 09:13 AM

congrats to evan and EPL

**AudiSportB5S4** · 10-26-2010 09:43 AM

Nice!

So this car put down a hair under 500 on EPLs dyno before revising and more boost, then put less down on another dyno after revising and more boost? I remember reading Evan was hoping with the tweaks to be over 500..

Still awesome though! He should try to get a roll out trap before the season closes!

**Tony@EPL** · 10-26-2010 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by AudiSportB5S4

Nice!

So this car put down a hair under 500 on EPLs dyno before revising and more boost, then put less down on another dyno after revising and more boost? I remember reading Evan was hoping with the tweaks to be over 500..

Still awesome though! He should try to get a roll out trap before the season closes!

Im unaware of any boost revision?

Typically dyno dynamics read more conservative then mustang's. Im completely comfortable with the fact that the Evan pulled his car in 7000+ miles after is was tuned, and made with in 10 hps of what he made here on a dyno thta generally reads lower....

**gearhead1186** · 10-26-2010 09:55 AM

congrats again evan!! dyno dynamics are known to be heart breakers.. 478 sounds about right to me given a tick under 500 on a mustang.

**AudiSportB5S4** · 10-26-2010 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Tony@EPL

Typically dyno dynamics read more conservative then mustang's. Im completely comfortable with the fact that the Evan pulled his car in 7000+ miles after is was tuned, and made with in 10 hps of what he made here on a dyno thta generally reads lower....

All I needed to know was answered by Mike... Sounds good. I just remember Evan speaking of more timing or more boost, whichever it was, and with the latest revisions to hopefully be over 500. That's all.

Originally Posted by gearhead1186

congrats again evan!! dyno dynamics are known to be heart breakers.. 478 sounds about right to me given a tick under 500 on a mustang.

Gotcha. Keep your eyes on the chatterbox sir, I'm going to get something together like I usually do around Thanksgiving and I want you to be there!

**as4driver** · 10-26-2010 10:13 AM

There were no adjustments made to the tune. The car actually made 487 whp. I will post the graph later.

Evan

**DaveM@EPL** · 10-26-2010 10:14 AM

Thanks Evan, fixed!

**S4_NE** · 10-26-2010 10:22 AM

very nice,

**MikeyB3** · 10-26-2010 10:57 AM

Very nice, and very awesome.
... AND on a stock block ... damn.

**Spooled1.8** · 10-26-2010 10:58 AM

2 more weeks until my 605's should be arriving, and this thread doesn't help me get by at all! great job Evan

**gearhead1186** · 10-26-2010 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by AudiSportB5S4

Gotcha. Keep your eyes on the chatterbox sir, I'm going to get something together like I usually do around Thanksgiving and I want you to be there!

Count me in!

Originally Posted by MikeyB3

Very nice, and very awesome.
... AND on a stock block ... damn.

He has rods but stock 2.7 top end.

**M.S4** · 10-26-2010 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by AudiSportB5S4

Nice!

So this car put down a hair under 500 on EPLs dyno before revising and more boost, then put less down on another dyno after revising and more boost? I remember reading Evan was hoping with the tweaks to be over 500..

Still awesome though! He should try to get a roll out trap before the season closes!

The local Dyno Dynamics dyno is consistently known as the heartbreaker. very very conservative numbers.

**Don Supreme** · 10-26-2010 11:58 AM

Dyno Dynamics dynos are rough...

nice numbers, fast car.

**arotished** · 10-26-2010 12:43 PM

Dynopack are even rougher...

Nice number!

**Dan[FN]6262** · 10-26-2010 12:45 PM

shits the bomb

**RONDAL** · 10-26-2010 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by arotished

Dynopack are even rougher...

Nice number!

yeah dynapaks make baby jesus himself cry.

**AudiSportB5S4** · 10-26-2010 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by as4driver

There were no adjustments made to the tune. The car actually made 487 whp. I will post the graph later.

Evan

Hey man, you down for a meet at the end of November too? Be like other TiAL cars (Mike) and show your face!

Originally Posted by Don Supreme

nice numbers, fast car.

Powerful... Fast isn't proven on the dyno, right? I WANT to call it fast because other data has proven it to be just that (FATS for now - I'm sure once EPL gets their Vbox they'll be doing 60-130s in it), but once we see a trap in the 1/4 mile then it's "fast".

**Don Supreme** · 10-26-2010 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by AudiSportB5S4

Powerful... Fast isn't proven on the dyno, right? I WANT to call it fast because other data has proven it to be just that (FATS for now - I'm sure once EPL gets their Vbox they'll be doing 60-130s in it), but once we see a trap in the 1/4 mile then it's "fast".

Sure, won't argue with you there.

**as4driver** · 10-26-2010 02:23 PM

Im down!!

**bigern45** · 10-26-2010 03:56 PM

awesome job guys!! sounds nasty!!

**as4driver** · 10-26-2010 04:35 PM

**Bimmerchop** · 10-26-2010 04:37 PM

Nice, congrats man!

**bryzf1** · 10-26-2010 04:39 PM

awesome... Congrats!

**Evilevo** · 10-26-2010 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by as4driver

Nice! How come they stopped early? Or is the scaling on the RPM off?

**julex** · 10-26-2010 06:05 PM

well, he is stock drivetrain and probably afraid about revving over 7k... what's the point anyway, especially on dyno. He can't make any more power on 605s and stock heads.

**Tony@EPL** · 10-26-2010 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by julex

well, he is stock drivetrain and probably afraid about revving over 7k... what's the point anyway, especially on dyno. He can't make any more power on 605s and stock heads.

But.....its awesome how well it holds power :)

Great power band!!

**BENI_BOY** · 10-26-2010 06:38 PM

evan your shit is softer than rosane son!

**1sadavant** · 10-26-2010 07:18 PM

Congrats!

Originally Posted by BENI_BOY

evan your shit is softer than rosane son!

"Roseanne's son"

**as4driver** · 10-26-2010 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by BENI_BOY

evan your shit is softer than rosane son!

I know Arben, I know!!

**bigern45** · 10-26-2010 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Tony@EPL

But.....its awesome how well it holds power :)

Great power band!!

no joke.. 4200 and up is serious business.. all the way to the red area...

**Espen W** · 11-12-2010 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by arotished

Dynopack are even rougher...

Nice number!

Uhm.. that would be a Dynapack totally out of calibration. Dynapacks are hub dynos and will read higher than proper roller dynos like Mustang and Dyno Dynamics, due to the elimination of rolling resistance and rotational inertia.
Example: A stock R35 GTR will pull a little more than 400whp on a Mustang and Dyno Dynamics, and close to 460whp on a Dynapack.
http://www.insideline.com/nissan/gt-...-godzilla.html

**Don Supreme** · 11-12-2010 10:24 AM

very nice power band.

**gearhead1186** · 11-12-2010 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Espen W

Uhm.. that would be a Dynapack totally out of calibration. Dynapacks are hub dynos and will read higher than proper roller dynos like Mustang and Dyno Dynamics, due to the elimination of rolling resistance and rotational inertia.
Example: A stock R35 GTR will pull a little more than 400whp on a Mustang and Dyno Dynamics, and close to 460whp on a Dynapack.
http://www.insideline.com/nissan/gt-...-godzilla.html

agreed. guess I missed that post. they also cant generate significant load or simulate driving conditions. The eddy current load that is used on Mustang dynos make them the best tuning tool.

**Evilevo** · 11-12-2010 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by gearhead1186

agreed. guess I missed that post. they also cant generate significant load or simulate driving conditions. The eddy current load that is used on Mustang dynos make them the best tuning tool.

+1 worst dyno to "measure your dick with", but the best dyno to tune with.