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    RS6 Hybrids Value?

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    I'm thinking about going over to TiAL 650 and I wonder what I can get for my RS6 hybrids? They where overhauled March 2009 and have around 6000km since.

    These made 430whp and 530wnm on 1.4bar (3800rpm) on my RS4.
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    Not worth anything? :-)

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    keep them!!!

    use that money for a relax trip with your GF instead.
    hybrid RS6 turbos are already very good, why replacing them with another turbo which will need new tune etc?

    stop spending money on the car! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by andream88 View Post
    use that money for a relax trip with your GF instead.
    She got a new boobs so she's happy :) I dont need a holiday, just a nice car!

    Why replace them? The need for more speed!

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    lol!
    post up pics! ...of the boobs, not the turbos

    and +1 for "more speed"

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    lol this thread is turning into a joke. But yeah with the correct tuning, people have seen close to and above 600 WHP on tial 770s. Its all up to you what you wish to spend your money on.
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    How much they are worth? Three fiddy and you pay for overnight shipping to the US. I will buy them :)

    If you only made 430awhp with these I think you can squeeze out a lot more out of them. 430awhp for RS6s is not much. Maybe get a new tune...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arotished View Post
    She got a new boobs so she's happy :) I dont need a holiday, just a nice car!

    Why replace them? The need for more speed!
    that has to be one of the funniest lines ever.. and no joke, you should be able to see 525-550 whp with those turbos and correct mods, maybe you need better software for your hardware.. do you already have rods in the car??
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigern45 View Post
    that has to be one of the funniest lines ever.. and no joke, you should be able to see 525-550 whp with those turbos and correct mods, maybe you need better software for your hardware.. do you already have rods in the car??
    Rods aren't technically necessary if he's only shooting for 525 whp as rs4 rods have been shown to hold alittle more power than S4 rods, but they wouldn't hurt. OP what mods and tune do you have, as everybody already said you should be able to get atleast 100 more whp out of those?
    "Clearly, a liger is not as practical as a Katana. S4s can't carry ligers. fucking 500lb cat in my backseat using my alcantara as a scratch post for its HUGE FUCKING CLAWS? I dont' think so bro"

    Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you take the wall with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quattro_2.7tt View Post
    I wish I could buy them
    I second that.... ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoGGRoBBer View Post
    I second that.... ;-)
    im going to third that lmaol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quattro_2.7tt View Post
    I wish I could buy them
    Quote Originally Posted by DoGGRoBBer View Post
    I second that.... ;-)
    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeefan7592 View Post
    im going to third that lmaol
    Are we talking about the turbo's or my wife's boobs now?

    430whp was on 1,39 bar so there should be more to get. This was also on a stock engine before the engine was overhauled, wagnr RS4 IC ect. Problem is that there is no good tuners that can tune the car live (on a rolling road) in Norway. I need go get down to Germany if there are any tuners there.

    The car dont have rods so if I stick with TiAL 605 I would be fine, but 770 will be to much so I'm thinking about going for the TiAL 650 turboes. This will be in a danger zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arotished View Post
    Are we talking about the turbo's or my wife's boobs now?

    430whp was on 1,39 bar so there should be more to get. This was also on a stock engine before the engine was overhauled, wagnr RS4 IC ect. Problem is that there is no good tuners that can tune the car live (on a rolling road) in Norway. I need go get down to Germany if there are any tuners there.

    The car dont have rods so if I stick with TiAL 605 I would be fine, but 770 will be to much so I'm thinking about going for the TiAL 650 turboes. This will be in a danger zone.
    Vast can do remote tuning and it is spot on, so that is someting to consider. I would go that route unless of course you just want to go balls to the wall from the beginning. If you aren't doing rods there is no reason to upgrade your turbos as the ones you have now can put out enough power to blow your engine. The only reason I could see upgrading turbos is to get better spoll but that doesn't really make that much sense. I would get tuning as that's only $800-$1000 and see how you like it at that power level. If thats not enough, tear your engine apart and build it, max the turbos out and see how you like that. And if THAT's not enough, go 3.0l, build the heads, and get the vast 1000hp kit. And if THATS!!!!! not enough for you, buy another car.
    "Clearly, a liger is not as practical as a Katana. S4s can't carry ligers. fucking 500lb cat in my backseat using my alcantara as a scratch post for its HUGE FUCKING CLAWS? I dont' think so bro"

    Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you take the wall with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Happy View Post
    Vast can do remote tuning and it is spot on, so that is someting to consider. I would go that route unless of course you just want to go balls to the wall from the beginning. If you aren't doing rods there is no reason to upgrade your turbos as the ones you have now can put out enough power to blow your engine. The only reason I could see upgrading turbos is to get better spoll but that doesn't really make that much sense. I would get tuning as that's only $800-$1000 and see how you like it at that power level. If thats not enough, tear your engine apart and build it, max the turbos out and see how you like that. And if THAT's not enough, go 3.0l, build the heads, and get the vast 1000hp kit. And if THATS!!!!! not enough for you, buy another car.
    Vast didn't want to tune my car remotely.

    But I agree, If I'm changing turboes, I'm also gonna do the rods and valves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Happy View Post
    Vast can do remote tuning and it is spot on, so that is someting to consider. I would go that route unless of course you just want to go balls to the wall from the beginning. If you aren't doing rods there is no reason to upgrade your turbos as the ones you have now can put out enough power to blow your engine. The only reason I could see upgrading turbos is to get better spoll but that doesn't really make that much sense. I would get tuning as that's only $800-$1000 and see how you like it at that power level. If thats not enough, tear your engine apart and build it, max the turbos out and see how you like that. And if THAT's not enough, go 3.0l, build the heads, and get the vast 1000hp kit. And if THATS!!!!! not enough for you, buy another car.
    Vast didn't want to tune my car remotely.

    But I agree, If I'm changing the RS6 turboes, on order to make even more power I'm also gonna need to do the rods and valves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arotished View Post
    Are we talking about the turbo's or my wife's boobs now?

    430whp was on 1,39 bar so there should be more to get. This was also on a stock engine before the engine was overhauled, wagnr RS4 IC ect. Problem is that there is no good tuners that can tune the car live (on a rolling road) in Norway. I need go get down to Germany if there are any tuners there.

    The car dont have rods so if I stick with TiAL 605 I would be fine, but 770 will be to much so I'm thinking about going for the TiAL 650 turboes. This will be in a danger zone.
    I know there's a couple tuners in England, as well. Like GIAC has a dealer there, I believe. I'll ask my mechanic buddy here in Bavaria, and see what tuners are around. He's a Beemer fanatic, so I'm sure he knows a few.

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    If you cant find people around to tune your car as is how are you going to find anyone to tune your TIAL kit?

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    Here's an option
    -ship the car to me
    -I goto VAST and have them tune it (I'll pay for it)
    -I will return the car next winter (so I can enjoy it next spring, summer, and fall)

    Boom there you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arotished View Post
    Vast didn't want to tune my car remotely.
    Just out of curiosity did they say why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by odhinnhrafn View Post
    I know there's a couple tuners in England, as well. Like GIAC has a dealer there, I believe. I'll ask my mechanic buddy here in Bavaria, and see what tuners are around. He's a Beemer fanatic, so I'm sure he knows a few.
    The Norway - England ferry do not run anymore :-( I would really like to head for MRC tuning but it's a long way around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tormented View Post
    If you cant find people around to tune your car as is how are you going to find anyone to tune your TIAL kit?
    Well, if I go for the TiAL kit I will need to find someone in Germany that can give me a custom tune. If I'm gonna go that route, I would like to go that route with a new pair of stronger turboes, not just my RS6 hybrids.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Nerd View Post
    Here's an option
    -ship the car to me
    -I goto VAST and have them tune it (I'll pay for it)
    -I will return the car next winter (so I can enjoy it next spring, summer, and fall)

    Boom there you go.
    I can trade you my wife (but don't think I'm allowed to show that kind of pictures here)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikse View Post
    Just out of curiosity did they say why?
    Since it was not their system. The turbo's/exhaust was bought from autospeed 3 years ago but also they dont want to tune my car remotely.

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    Hit up DNA Tuning in UK; they have quite abit of experience doing custom tunes for VAG, and for 2.7TT Stage 3/3+ setups. May need to have your ECU sent back and forth a few times, but it will be worth the effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by groovetek View Post
    Hit up DNA Tuning in UK; they have quite abit of experience doing custom tunes for VAG, and for 2.7TT Stage 3/3+ setups. May need to have your ECU sent back and forth a few times, but it will be worth the effort.
    When you say they have experience doing custom tunes for VAG. In what context are you using the acronym VAG? And what do you think it stands for?

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    its funny how nobody has answered his question yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeefan7592 View Post
    im going to third that lmaol
    i fourth that hahah. lol

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    Used turbos don't normally sell for very much...too much risk with these engines. Usually much less than 1/2 what the new price is.

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    probably best to get them overhauled before selling them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97B518TQM View Post
    How much they are worth? Three fiddy and you pay for overnight shipping to the US. I will buy them :)

    If you only made 430awhp with these I think you can squeeze out a lot more out of them. 430awhp for RS6s is not much. Maybe get a new tune...?


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    Quote Originally Posted by WikiWiki View Post
    HAHAHAHA

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    [QUOTE=Mikse;5822900]Just out of curiosity did they say why?[/QUote

    A man got to know his limitations......

    Anyway, it does not get much better than http://www.tunetec.de/ when it comes to Euro RS4 tuning.

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    EPL can remote tune
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    Not to go complitely OT but arotished you mentioned earlier in the other thread the turbos are rated to 550hp/700Nm (crank) so are you sure they arenīt RS4/RS6 hybrids? Big difference in power and price.
    Quote Originally Posted by sektor M7 View Post
    A man got to know his limitations......
    I understood VAST didīt want to tune because the turbos was not purchased from them? Did you ask tune for your current setup or the future R770? Does anyone have VAST remote who didnīt buy from them?
    Quote Originally Posted by bigern45 View Post
    EPL can remote tune
    I remember reading that EPL tune remotely only via their dealers and not directly with customer? Right or wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikse View Post
    Not to go complitely OT but arotished you mentioned earlier in the other thread the turbos are rated to 550hp/700Nm (crank) so are you sure they arenīt RS4/RS6 hybrids? Big difference in power and price.

    I understood VAST didīt want to tune because the turbos was not purchased from them? Did you ask tune for your current setup or the future R770? Does anyone have VAST remote who didnīt buy from them?

    I remember reading that EPL tune remotely only via their dealers and not directly with customer? Right or wrong?
    wrong. Tony emailed me version of their flash loader. i simply log, send Tony the logs, he sends me a revision, i select the revision, hook up to my OBD port and in about 3 minutes, i have a new map installed. if you dont have your own laptop to data log and such, and install new maps, then yes, you would have to go to a dealer.
    RS6 hybrids and corn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikse View Post
    Not to go complitely OT but arotished you mentioned earlier in the other thread the turbos are rated to 550hp/700Nm (crank) so are you sure they arenīt RS4/RS6 hybrids? Big difference in power and price.
    The car made 430whp and 530wnm on a dynojet with 1.4bar boost so with a drive-train loss at 25%, that brings me up to 550hk/700nm crank (correct me of I'm wrong). I dont know much about these turbos other than they are RS6 hybrids, with hybrids, I guess they use RS4 turbine wheel? I dont know what the car will make on 1.6bar boost like most of the "real" RS6 turboes run at. All I asked for was a value for these RS6 hybrids, I dont know if they are better or worse then real RS6 but some there must be some advantage with these over "real" RS6?


    I asked for a tune of my existing system, not for the R770 kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sektor M7 View Post

    Anyway, it does not get much better than http://www.tunetec.de/ when it comes to Euro RS4 tuning.
    THANKS!

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