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    I ran a 13.4 bone stock at our local track in the summer. Yeah, the track sucks... a R32 that makes 427AWHP on a mustang wasn't doing much better.

    I ran about 9 times, hot lapped the first couple runs. 12.7x the first three, then I got a 12.688 then my 12.605. I will upload slips tomorrow when i get get them out of the car. MPH was 110-113 all night.

    The fun thing was I ran a 12.7 and then took my intake off and put the stock box on and ran slower... TWICE. My two slowest runs of the night 12.90's were with the stock air box.

    1.9 to 2.0 60 foot's all night as well

    Launch method was Dynamic with ESP full off in drive letting the car shift on its own at redline. I would stand on the brake at the first light and put my foot on the throttle at the same time while coming off the brake on the third light. Not too sure on the RPM of the actual launch although I do have some video's in car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendon1098 View Post
    I ran a 13.4 bone stock at our local track in the summer. Yeah, the track sucks... a R32 that makes 427AWHP on a mustang wasn't doing much better.

    I ran about 9 times, hot lapped the first couple runs. 12.7x the first three, then I got a 12.688 then my 12.605. I will upload slips tomorrow when i get get them out of the car. MPH was 110-113 all night.

    The fun thing was I ran a 12.7 and then took my intake off and put the stock box on and ran slower... TWICE. My two slowest runs of the night 12.90's were with the stock air box.

    1.9 to 2.0 60 foot's all night as well

    Launch method was Dynamic with ESP full off in drive letting the car shift on its own at redline. I would stand on the brake at the first light and put my foot on the throttle at the same time while coming off the brake on the third light. Not too sure on the RPM of the actual launch although I do have some video's in car.
    Very nice! Glad someone else ran good times with a DSG.... Did the car shift at 7K each time? I assume you ran at Capitol? Looks like there was good weather today.... Looking forward to seeing the vids and slips... later Ron

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    Good deal Brendon! 9 runs is great.

    Revenge of the homemade intake.

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    so 100oct is good for .3 seconds vs. the 93oct. man the 100 really works well. Its like the tune times 2 over the 91
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    Quote Originally Posted by L0U View Post
    so 100oct is good for .3 seconds vs. the 93oct. man the 100 really works well. Its like the tune times 2 over the 91
    hopefully (93 octane + meth/water) = 100oct or better

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmadS4 View Post
    hopefully (93 octane + meth/water) = 100oct or better
    We'll see about that. 93 tune + water/meth doesn't have the programming to maximize potential. 100 octane tune is just that. Tuned specifically for 100 octane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltrons_Head View Post
    We'll see about that. 93 tune + water/meth doesn't have the programming to maximize potential. 100 octane tune is just that. Tuned specifically for 100 octane.
    x2.... Wonder how a 100 + water/meth will do.... LOL

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    Nice runs Brendon. The best I could get was 12.90 @ 107.... seems your intake really does work. What were the weather conditions during your runs?

    I tried your launch technique but the car would bog down. Clearly I was doing it wrong. So what I was doing was left foot on brake, right foot hoovering over gas, wait for third yellow light, release brake and stab gas at the same time. That would make the car launch right when the green light came on. And yeah.... I made sure TC and SC was full off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickS View Post
    Nice runs Brendon. The best I could get was 12.90 @ 107.... seems your intake really does work. What were the weather conditions during your runs?

    I tried your launch technique but the car would bog down. Clearly I was doing it wrong. So what I was doing was left foot on brake, right foot hoovering over gas, wait for third yellow light, release brake and stab gas at the same time. That would make the car launch right when the green light came on. And yeah.... I made sure TC and SC was full off.
    Nick, That is how I always launch as well.... I have always said I think the intake adds 10ish HP just like the exhaust does....

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    So catback, intake and tune these cars are running stock e9x M3 numbers. This car is just about perfect. Can't wait to see what numbers headers plus pulley's yield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonM View Post
    So catback, intake and tune these cars are running stock e9x M3 numbers. This car is just about perfect. Can't wait to see what numbers headers plus pulley's yield.
    Results have varied greatly and IMO 93 tune, intake, and exhaust should be 12.4-12.6 depending on the conditions.... Still not a big enough sample size though....

    My car runs 12.2's all day with intake, exhaust, and 100 octane tune, best has been 12.22 at 115.33 with a nearly 1400DA....

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    Quote Originally Posted by primetime View Post
    Results have varied greatly and IMO 93 tune, intake, and exhaust should be 12.4-12.6 depending on the conditions.... Still not a big enough sample size though....

    My car runs 12.2's all day with intake, exhaust, and 100 octane tune, best has been 12.22 at 115.33 with a nearly 1400DA....
    Ok so trapping and running around stock M3 numbers...i really doubt we're going to see any bolt on S4's running 12.4 quarters, but I could be wrong...obviously you being the exception along with anyone else with a 100 octane tune. Not trying to put the car down by any means I drive one every day and I smile ear to ear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonM View Post
    Ok so trapping and running around stock M3 numbers...i really doubt we're going to see any bolt on S4's running 12.4 quarters, but I could be wrong...obviously you being the exception along with anyone else with a 100 octane tune. Not trying to put the car down by any means I drive one every day and I smile ear to ear.
    I think with the addition of high flow cats or long tube headers we may see 12.4s on a 93 tune. Even with a stock tune HFCs/headers are picking up like 25whp/25wtq which will be even bigger gains on the top end once a tune is in place.

    I think we are still so early in the tuning game for this platform that even the tunes themselves are going to mature and produce more power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffc31337 View Post
    I think with the addition of high flow cats or long tube headers we may see 12.4s on a 93 tune. Even with a stock tune HFCs/headers are picking up like 25whp/25wtq which will be even bigger gains on the top end once a tune is in place.

    I think we are still so early in the tuning game for this platform that even the tunes themselves are going to mature and produce more power.
    yes I agree, sorry I was talking about the basic mods everyone seems to be running...intake, chip, catback as I stated above. Pulley's and headers will yield some great numbers. Also, I hope for everyones sake that with the premium and the wait APR has completely maxxed out the potential w/ their tunes. I know when I was wanting an S4 waiting for the numbers to be released was bad, and I don't even own the car lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonM View Post
    Ok so trapping and running around stock M3 numbers...i really doubt we're going to see any bolt on S4's running 12.4 quarters, but I could be wrong...obviously you being the exception along with anyone else with a 100 octane tune. Not trying to put the car down by any means I drive one every day and I smile ear to ear.
    I'll go out on a limb and say within a month or so someone will post a low 12.4 with intake, exhaust and 93 tune in a 6-speed car and also a mid to high 12.4 in a s-stronic car with the same mods.... Will see....

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    Quote Originally Posted by primetime View Post
    I'll go out on a limb and say within a month or so someone will post a low 12.4 with intake, exhaust and 93 tune in a 6-speed car and also a mid to high 12.4 in a s-stronic car with the same mods.... Will see....
    That would definitely be great as I'd have to shell out the money on my girlfriends car to get one....but then no offense to you I wouldn't be running a 100 octane tune if I were you, the difference is marginal at best and IMO the gas prices and limitations aren't justifiable. Your car and your call though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonM View Post
    That would definitely be great as I'd have to shell out the money on my girlfriends car to get one....but then no offense to you I wouldn't be running a 100 octane tune if I were you, the difference is marginal at best and IMO the gas prices and limitations aren't justifiable. Your car and your call though.
    2+ tenths is pretty big in drag racing and more than margingal IMO... I was an early adopter so APR will give me the program switching with all versions once it is released.... The car isn't a daily driver and will be put away come mid to late Nov. so running the 100 was a no brainer since I can purchase it from several stations right by my house.... $6 a gallon.... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by primetime View Post
    2+ tenths is pretty big in drag racing and more than margingal IMO... I was an early adopter so APR will give me the program switching with all versions once it is released.... The car isn't a daily driver and will be put away come mid to late Nov. so running the 100 was a no brainer since I can purchase it from several stations right by my house.... $6 a gallon.... LOL
    Well then you're very fortunate and I can see your decision on the process, also I wasn't aware APR was going to make map switching available. On the streets .2 tenths is marginal in my opinion, but we're all allowed to be opinionated and I realize .2 could be the difference maker in beating a car. I don't want this to turn into a fight by any means...You S4 guys should be quite proud of your cars capabilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonM View Post
    Well then you're very fortunate and I can see your decision on the process, also I wasn't aware APR was going to make map switching available. On the streets .2 tenths is marginal in my opinion, but we're all allowed to be opinionated and I realize .2 could be the difference maker in beating a car. I don't want this to turn into a fight by any means...You S4 guys should be quite proud of your cars capabilities.
    Thanks.... No fight here I just like to discuss.... .2 when your mid-low 12's is pretty big..... 2 car lengths or so..... Long way to go with the car.... mid 11's stock blower :)

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    I wasn't hovering over the gas, I was slightly on it. The car will allow you to "two foot" it for a second or two before it pulls throttle away. Play with it and you'll figure that out with some practice.

    I was hoping for 12.5x but it just didn't happen. Too much stuff blowing up on the track to not let me combine a good launch with a cold engine.

    It shifted at redline EVERYTIME which was awesome as my car has a delay from time to time for the 1st to 2nd gear change. No evidence of that at all this time which I was stoked over.

    Headers will be next as well as water meth and probably a tune for it. I plan to get into the 11's with this blower one way or another and then maybe play with some other idea's. Maybe dual charging or something :)

    Weather was in the 50's, not sure about humidity or anything like that but it was a pretty chilly night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primetime View Post
    Thanks.... No fight here I just like to discuss.... .2 when your mid-low 12's is pretty big..... 2 car lengths or so..... Long way to go with the car.... mid 11's stock blower :)
    You really think mid 11's with stock SC????? That'd be crazy fast for an AWD car with not much mods. One would have to wonder what stresses this may cause, plus warranty issues. Eh, I guess if you're going that far warranty issues aren't a concern lol. What do you think would yield such results...whats left to tap into.

    Meth injection, headers, pulley, intake, exhaust, tuning. I think that will definitely yield an 11.8-9 if its any faster thats just incredible (not that those #'s aren't). Audi pulled out all the stops with this car...too bad they dropped the ball on the RS5....

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    I think it's much to early to call the numbers that guys are running on modded S4s "the fastest" for any grouping of mods, or even fully representative of what the cars are capable of. Primetime, for example, ran 12.2@115 with a 1400ft DA. I think that car has 1-2 tenths more in it as it sits right now Hell, with a perfect weather day and a tailwind he could see 11.99. My money says you'll see 93 tune, intake, exhaust S4s running quicker than 12.4 in the next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonM View Post
    You really think mid 11's with stock SC????? That'd be crazy fast for an AWD car with not much mods. One would have to wonder what stresses this may cause, plus warranty issues. Eh, I guess if you're going that far warranty issues aren't a concern lol. What do you think would yield such results...whats left to tap into.

    Meth injection, headers, pulley, intake, exhaust, tuning. I think that will definitely yield an 11.8-9 if its any faster thats just incredible (not that those #'s aren't). Audi pulled out all the stops with this car...too bad they dropped the ball on the RS5....
    Yes, I really think mid 11's with this blower.... mods you mention will do it IMO.... Need to find more ways to get more air into the blower though.... p&p it, bigger TB at some point, bigger intake, etc....

    Quote Originally Posted by Vogz View Post
    I think it's much to early to call the numbers that guys are running on modded S4s "the fastest" for any grouping of mods, or even fully representative of what the cars are capable of. Primetime, for example, ran 12.2@115 with a 1400ft DA. I think that car has 1-2 tenths more in it as it sits right now Hell, with a perfect weather day and a tailwind he could see 11.99. My money says you'll see 93 tune, intake, exhaust S4s running quicker than 12.4 in the next year.
    Very well put and my thoughts exactly.... I don't want a wind aided 11 second pass though.... I will take a 500 or lower DA.... Nov. should provide that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by primetime View Post
    Yes, I really think mid 11's with this blower.... mods you mention will do it IMO.... Need to find more ways to get more air into the blower though.... p&p it, bigger TB at some point, bigger intake, etc....



    Very well put and my thoughts exactly.... I don't want a wind aided 11 second pass though.... I will take a 500 or lower DA.... Nov. should provide that....
    Throw in some weight reduction (i.e. 18lbs wheels, BB kit, etc.) to that list and mid 11's are possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendon1098 View Post
    I wasn't hovering over the gas, I was slightly on it. The car will allow you to "two foot" it for a second or two before it pulls throttle away. Play with it and you'll figure that out with some practice.

    I was hoping for 12.5x but it just didn't happen. Too much stuff blowing up on the track to not let me combine a good launch with a cold engine.

    It shifted at redline EVERYTIME which was awesome as my car has a delay from time to time for the 1st to 2nd gear change. No evidence of that at all this time which I was stoked over.

    Weather was in the 50's, not sure about humidity or anything like that but it was a pretty chilly night.
    Ah.... so you were on the gas but ever so slightly? I'll have to give it a try. And the cool weather has a lot to do with it. I have yet to see anyone run in the conditions I ran in.

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    Have Arin enter it as well on the post where he is tracking #'s.....

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    What thread is that?

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    What thread is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendon1098 View Post
    I ran a 13.4 bone stock at our local track in the summer. Yeah, the track sucks... a R32 that makes 427AWHP on a mustang wasn't doing much better.

    I ran about 9 times, hot lapped the first couple runs. 12.7x the first three, then I got a 12.688 then my 12.605. I will upload slips tomorrow when i get get them out of the car. MPH was 110-113 all night.

    The fun thing was I ran a 12.7 and then took my intake off and put the stock box on and ran slower... TWICE. My two slowest runs of the night 12.90's were with the stock air box.

    1.9 to 2.0 60 foot's all night as well

    Launch method was Dynamic with ESP full off in drive letting the car shift on its own at redline. I would stand on the brake at the first light and put my foot on the throttle at the same time while coming off the brake on the third light. Not too sure on the RPM of the actual launch although I do have some video's in car.
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    Nice! Just imagine getting those 60ft times down a little lower. You should be able to cut a 1.8 60ft with a good launch. usually 1/10th faster 60ft is 2/10ths faster 1/4 mile time.

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    These are organized by the 1/4 mile E.T Note the runs were done at 5:17PM 5:20PM 5:24PM 5:26PM 5:30PM then with stock air box at 5:44pm and then at 5:50PM then I let the car cool and put the CAI back on for a run at 10:27. Obviously i'm car 2846.

    Sorry, I should have rotated them.... but... too bad :P





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    do you have your bone stock time slip and your best time chipped time slip?
    FUCKKKKK no, I was embarrassed lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendon1098 View Post
    These are organized by the 1/4 mile E.T Note the runs were done at 5:17PM 5:20PM 5:24PM 5:26PM 5:30PM then with stock air box at 5:44pm and then at 5:50PM then I let the car cool and put the CAI back on for a run at 10:27. Obviously i'm car 2846.

    Sorry, I should have rotated them.... but... too bad :P




    Thanks for posting the slips Brendon! I can't get your launch technique to work on my car though.... Any gas basically kills my launch if the brake is applied.... If you go again try using your left foot to brake with your right on the gas w/o depressing it at all, and then on the second to last yellow dump the brake and mash the gas.... I bet you get some 1.8x 60's which would get you a low 12.5ish.... The DA was also very good the day you ran acoording to dragtimes so there is littl to no correction on your times.... later Ron

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    It never pulled throttle from me, but I probably won't be going again until I get some more mods and get some loose ends in life cleared up then i'll be out there hopefully running 11's :)

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    Nice consistent runs bro.. wish i was there for them !

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