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    single vs bixenon

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    I made this thread to dispel any rumors made about the pro's and cons of each of these projectors (I am talking ECODES in specific)

    so, besides the fact that:
    bixenon ecodes
    -clearly have larger projectors
    -less pronounced glass mold lines
    -side placed city light(stronger high beams?)
    -rear mounted ballast
    -o ring problem(simple fix)

    single ecodes
    -have a more condensed light
    -more pronounced glass mold lines
    -bottom placed city light
    -bottom mounted ballast
    -better cutoff



    what are the other major differences?
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    Ballast is located in different positions. No other differences

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    ecode single xenon has a much crisper cut off and the best beam pattern of all the headlights available for our cars.

    The bi-xenon is not as crisp, I have the S4 bi-xenons which are fairly similar and they aren't crisp, they look more foggy and smooth not sharp.
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    I saw you bought those ecodes in the classifieds. Deal of the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiA4Turbo22 View Post
    ^^he literally bought them behind my back Tu. I had already made the deal too. Matt is just straight buying up the market.
    really kirk...
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmatt33 View Post
    really kirk...
    Lol Matt, just pulling your leg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiA4Turbo22 View Post
    Lol Matt, just pulling your leg.
    i figured. hahaha :p

    can we get oldguy or diagnosticator im sure those guys have an amazing answer
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    Doesnt the single xenon come with wider lens as well? I'm pretty sure I came across those....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Wrong View Post
    Doesnt the single xenon come with wider lens as well? I'm pretty sure I came across those....
    i dont think so. i posted a pic so u can compare the two
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmatt33 View Post
    i figured. hahaha :p

    can we get oldguy or diagnosticator im sure those guys have an amazing answer
    Amazing answer for what? AudiA4Turbo22 described the light output and u described their physical difference. What else do u expect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BASARAB View Post
    Amazing answer for what? AudiA4Turbo22 described the light output and u described their physical difference. What else do u expect?
    theres much more to it then that.

    for instance the bean pattern, which is different in the bi xenon as they curve upward to illuminate street signs(or so im told)
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmatt33 View Post
    i figured. hahaha :p

    can we get oldguy or diagnosticator im sure those guys have an amazing answer
    The only thing I can add is the Bi Xenons either DOT or E code, are effected by the vertical adjuster shaft seal O ring issue. (That I originally discovered.) That is the cause of the water leak into the housings and the lens condensation that frequently occurs.
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    Kirk, you have a lot of problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diagnosticator View Post
    The only thing I can add is the Bi Xenons either DOT or E code, are effected by the vertical adjuster shaft seal O ring issue. (That I originally discovered.) That is the cause of the water leak into the housings and the lens condensation that frequently occurs.
    i thought this was a simple fix? swapping a o ring?
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    okay guys so i think this info thread is pretty much complete i hope it helps in the future
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    i have oem bi xenon hids lookin fore ecodes but only come across single xenon will i be dissapointed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BerNur View Post
    i have oem bi xenon hids lookin fore ecodes but only come across single xenon will i be dissapointed?
    not exactly each headlight housing has its pros and cons. the bi xenon have a greater light dissipation but the single xenons have a really condensed light beam.

    either way youll be happy.

    this thread should give you all the info you need

    ***forgot to mention im currently running single ecodes and the light output is amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by BerNur View Post
    i have oem bi xenon hids lookin fore ecodes but only come across single xenon will i be dissapointed?
    I have not run bi, but single xenon e-codes are fantastic, they give a very wide and sharp light output.

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    so single is the way to go im sorry i have no experience with this as my car came with stock bixenon

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    I ran ecode bi-xenons for 3 years. Switched to ecode single-xenons in 2007. To my eyes the single-xenon's low beam is better. Although I do miss the bi-xenon feature... 2-3 times a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BerNur View Post
    so single is the way to go im sorry i have no experience with this as my car came with stock bixenon
    if your avatar is your car then you dont have bixenons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwarner View Post
    if your avatar is your car then you dont have bixenons
    his projectors actually look pretty big bt its hard to tell in the tiny pic
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    this thread is so useless SEARCH for crying out loud.

    Let this thread die matt. You already got the answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsmatt33 View Post
    i thought this was a simple fix? swapping a o ring?
    That is correct. The replacement O ring needs to be a tighter fit on the shaft and the bore for the shaft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgr_Clw View Post
    I ran ecode bi-xenons for 3 years. Switched to ecode single-xenons in 2007. To my eyes the single-xenon's low beam is better. Although I do miss the bi-xenon feature... 2-3 times a year.
    Same here. went from OEM single to ecode bixenon then to ecode single. the single by far has the best cutoff. I also saw some yellowish tinting on the edges of the cuttoff when I ran 6k bulbs with the bixenons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwarner View Post
    if your avatar is your car then you dont have bixenons
    you think so my paperwork says bixenon.. il take a closer pic tomorrow to post up.

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    i was just lookin at your avatar, judging by your profile picture im wrong.

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    Kind of a random bit of info, but I have the single xenon Ecodes, and with my 55w 6000K HID kit it lights up every reflective surface. Even beyond the actual light. It's pretty awesome. I can see signs and stuff before the light even hits them.
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    NA bi-xenon + 55w hid + Clear Lense (ZKW) = money
    It has very sharp blue cutoff, i could snap some photos if anyone is interested.

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