Ticking noise in 1st, & whining when shifting down into 1st *Video*

**adr3naline fix** · 10-06-2010 06:50 PM

I have a ticking/clicking noise when accelerating only in first gear. Then when I am downshifting into first gear, it whines.

-This does not happen in any other gear
-When clutch is in, noise disappears

What's wrong with my transmission, and what the &%* do I have to spend money on now?!

Video:
(Ticking noise is hard to hear, this is the best audio I can make.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPsYaso10V0

**cdowns13** · 10-06-2010 07:41 PM

couldnt really hear anything but the wind... And im not a fan of down shifting into first.. i have done it once maybe since i have had the car..

do you hear a grinding noise of any sorts? does it feel different in that gear?

**adr3naline fix** · 10-06-2010 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by cdowns13

couldnt really hear anything but the wind... And im not a fan of down shifting into first.. i have done it once maybe since i have had the car..

do you hear a grinding noise of any sorts? does it feel different in that gear?

No grinding noises, yet. Just the "clunk" noise that gets faster as the speed increases

**revbjeff** · 10-06-2010 08:36 PM

Is it a chipped 1st gear? Mine is and it clicks in first

**Shhmaudi** · 10-06-2010 10:11 PM

why the hell are you downshifting into first....? Theres your problem. Stop doing that........down shift to 3rd maybe second but never EVER first

**Inval1d** · 10-06-2010 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Shhmaudi

why the hell are you downshifting into first....? Theres your problem. Stop doing that........down shift to 3rd maybe second but never EVER first

I second that. Technically speaking, for you to even put it back in first gear you should be crawling 2 to 12mph? Slap it in neutral and cruise to a stop instead. And the whining you hear is normal since dropping it to a lower gear causes the rpm to spike. Hint: Gear Ratios.

**Insomniac** · 10-06-2010 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by revbjeff

Is it a chipped 1st gear? Mine is and it clicks in first

x2

**adr3naline fix** · 10-07-2010 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by Inval1d

I second that. Technically speaking, for you to even put it back in first gear you should be crawling 2 to 12mph? Slap it in neutral and cruise to a stop instead.

Downshifting to first is for the Video. If it is ever done, it is <5mph. The whining in this video is irregular.

**Scotty@Advanced** · 10-07-2010 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by adr3naline fix

I have a ticking/clicking noise when accelerating only in first gear. Then when I am downshifting into first gear, it whines.

-This does not happen in any other gear
-When clutch is in, noise disappears

What's wrong with my transmission, and what the &%* do I have to spend money on now?!

Video:
(Ticking noise is hard to hear, this is the best audio I can make.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPsYaso10V0

Your first gear and main shaft is damaged (either a chipped teeth or eroded tooth surface).

A new main shaft and first gear run about $1100.00, plus while your in there it would be prudent to replace the 1-2 collar and update the syncros the overhaul kit runs $895.00.

**adr3naline fix** · 10-07-2010 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Scotty@Advanced

Your first gear and main shaft is damaged (either a chipped teeth or eroded tooth surface).

A new main shaft and first gear run about $1100.00, plus while your in there it would be prudent to replace the 1-2 collar and update the syncros the overhaul kit runs $895.00.

Exactly what I thought, and hoped would not come up.

So....basically....find a new trans.
damnit.

How long can I drive on this, and what will happen when it gives - no first gear?

**somebody5788** · 10-07-2010 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by adr3naline fix

Exactly what I thought, and hoped would not come up.

So....basically....find a new trans.
damnit.

How long can I drive on this, and what will happen when it gives - no first gear?

My first gear has been fucked since I bought my car. I had over 20k miles on the trans and it was still fine. Then I tried to replace it and my new one has the same problem.................

**Scotty@Advanced** · 10-07-2010 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by adr3naline fix

Exactly what I thought, and hoped would not come up.

So....basically....find a new trans.
damnit.

How long can I drive on this, and what will happen when it gives - no first gear?

To be honest I wouldn't worry about your first gear ever failing catastrophically.

Originally Posted by somebody5788

My first gear has been fucked since I bought my car. I had over 20k miles on the trans and it was still fine. Then I tried to replace it and my new one has the same problem.................

Was your "New" transmission used, new or overhauled?

**revbjeff** · 10-07-2010 12:20 PM

I bought mine with the chipped gear and have put about 45k on it

**adr3naline fix** · 10-07-2010 12:52 PM

Well that's good.

Where could I find 'inexpensive' (<$500, if possible) rebuild parts, or a new trans? $1000 for a 100k mile 5-speed is a bit steep, even in the used Audi market.

**Scotty@Advanced** · 10-07-2010 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by adr3naline fix

Well that's good.

Where could I find 'inexpensive' (<$500, if possible) rebuild parts, or a new trans? $1000 for a 100k mile 5-speed is a bit steep, even in the used Audi market.

Oh i thought you had a 6 speed. The 5 speed parts are quite a bit cheaper.. A new main shaft and first gear is about $600-$700. But you can find used trans for that much... Try www.car-part.com

**revbjeff** · 10-07-2010 03:00 PM

I saw a trans on the vortex for $350 the other day

**adr3naline fix** · 10-07-2010 03:11 PM

Are b5 5-speed transmissions swapable regaurdless of trans code?

Sticker on car says its a ENP trans code, but I they are hard to find, at least inexpensively.

**adr3naline fix** · 10-08-2010 08:40 AM

bump, I really need help with my above question. :( (post #17)

**Scotty@Advanced** · 10-08-2010 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by adr3naline fix

Are b5 5-speed transmissions swapable regaurdless of trans code?

Sticker on car says its a DAJ trans code, but I believe that is the differential...so I can't figure it out

I believe so but the individual gear ratios differ.

**adr3naline fix** · 10-08-2010 09:22 AM

I finally got a hold of someone who (seemingly) knew the details about the trans swaps. Says the transmissions are not interchangeable, and I need to stick with the expensive ENP. Damn.

What is says on Car-Parts.com
M.T., 1.8L, Quattro (code DWR), code ENP
M.T., 1.8L, Quattro (code DWR), code DWR (Cheap)

**adr3naline fix** · 11-14-2010 11:08 PM

Trannys ARE interchangeable. I went from ENP to DWR

The ticking noise was confirmed to be first gear. I will tear it apart and post pics soon.

So if you have ticking in 1st, and first only, you probably need a new transmission.

I red lined 1st gear many times while having the clicking noise - it got louder but no mechanical differences after 1k miles of loud ticking.

**justinp95** · 11-15-2010 09:24 AM

Does this sound about right? Mine use to do it in 2nd also though and then it quit?

**adr3naline fix** · 11-15-2010 09:33 AM

It's really hard to hear in youtube videos. I would describe it as a baseball card in your spokes, but only in 1st. It would be a consistent ticking that would increase with RPM's, and subside a little bit when at a constant speed.

You said it went away? A chipped gear sound would definitely not! I can imagine that a flush of the tranny fluid might help, but did not in my case.

**justinp95** · 11-15-2010 12:04 PM

How does your car run at 24psi? Ive got the same setup, but currently its at like 18psi. Im wondering what max would be for a stock block and what not.