REICH 3L from GURU with 770R & tip to 6S swap build

**Reich** · 10-05-2010 06:24 PM

So like most of you probably know. I did my tranny swap.
But since i was there, I was looking to transform my engine to a 3L. Sherif had 2.8L heads and Guru had the crank at that time.
Sudenly, Guruman told me that his engine was for sale. After thinking for a while, i took the decision. I bought Dom's engine.
Not because i don't want nor i can't do the job ( I' ve been working for Cummins engine since the begining of 96.) I' ve probably rebuild more engines than any tuners around here. But the idea behind buying Guru's engine is to save some time. Especially when you have a familly and a wife that was starting to get pissed of because i'm always in garage.
After all. After seen Guru's engine which is well documented in here AZ, I knew at this time that i couldn't go wrong.

Now after spending soooo much money on the car i thought that i could keep the turbos that i had and save for next year or two years to swap for
bigger turbos. So i decide to tune the turbos i have which flows 28lbs min and take a guess for next two years.

Guess what happened....... The right turbo blown on the dyno. It was like powsssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh. And in my head i was like FFFUUUUCCCKKKKK.

So long story short, the dyno is 21/2 hours drive from home. I had to go back home buy bus, and anounce this to the wife. Yes she was happy

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But i do have a good girl though.

At that time i figured that it was not worth to tow the car for that long distance, and decide that ROMBOTISS would do the job. He's one of the most
knowledge man with Porsche and Audi. This guy makes good, powerfull cars.

Here's a couple of pictures of my job and Mikes Jobs.

Mikes is working really fast by the way.

At Rombotiss shop.

A shot of my blowned turbo beside my new tial 770r

**Reich** · 10-05-2010 06:28 PM

The fuel pump i have is one walbro and twin MSD in parallel. I still use the stock rail for now. Let see what i can get out of this. I'll send i pic when i have a chance.

I'll show some pics of my custom 4'' 304 stainless exhaust system. I'm at the Hotel in Vaudreuil for all week. ( far from home )
So that means that some pics will come from Rombotiss shop and the others when i'm back home.

Thanks for viewing.

**julex** · 10-05-2010 06:33 PM

so what blew? 770R turbo? any idea why?

**Reich** · 10-05-2010 06:34 PM

I'll write down all of my mods on a piece of paper so that i don't miss something. before post it.

**Reich** · 10-05-2010 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by julex

so what blew? 770R turbo? any idea why?

No my bullseyepower turbo blown.
The right turbo shaft broked in three pieces. Probably due to overspeed.

**Reich** · 10-05-2010 06:41 PM

a couple pics of the car. Sorry for the crappy pics

**GURUMAN** · 10-06-2010 06:28 AM

I like your car better with the OEM mags ! LOL

**blackbenzz** · 10-06-2010 06:35 AM

Nice build, should be a monster!

**Reich** · 10-06-2010 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by GURUMAN

I like your car better with the OEM mags ! LOL

I still have them. I'll put them back with good tires a couple of times for fun. That will be sleeper status.

**Reich** · 10-06-2010 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by blackbenzz

Nice build, should be a monster!

Thanks. We shal see.

**Sherif** · 10-06-2010 08:41 AM

Glad to see you finally did a build thread Simon!

Will bulleyes give you some other turbo to replace the blown one? I know the model you had is discontinued, but will they replace it with some other turbo you could sell (it would help you pay that tranny swap, 3l engine and Tial 770 you did all in the same summer :P )... these are supposed to be replaced if something bad happen for lifetime right?

Can't wait to run you before we have a beer together! hopefully this fall

**NogaroAvant** · 10-06-2010 08:57 AM

looking good!

**Reich** · 10-06-2010 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Sherif

Glad to see you finally did a build thread Simon!

Will bulleyes give you some other turbo to replace the blown one? I know the model you had is discontinued, but will they replace it with some other turbo you could sell (it would help you pay that tranny swap, 3l engine and Tial 770 you did all in the same summer :P )... these are supposed to be replaced if something bad happen for lifetime right?

Can't wait to run you before we have a beer together! hopefully this fall

Hey Sherif!!

Well the turbos that Bullseye guy offered to to replace the blown ones for a good price is s251. He said good for 900 to the wheels.
But there's two things that stoped me from buying them. First, How would a 3L would spool them; Second is that they t3 flange and are freaking big 7 1/2'' wide. So i was woried that they might not fit.

And the car will be ready pretty soon regarding to Mike.

Here's the s252 comp. map that guy from bullseye wanted to sell me.

**Reich** · 10-06-2010 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by NogaroAvant

looking good!

Hey Buddy.

I think you should post a thread about your build as well.

Let me how's things going.

**Euromike** · 10-06-2010 12:43 PM

should be a monster build, cant wait to see it done

Have to say, i don't like your wheels at all. I think the car looks much much better with OEM Avus's

**bigern45** · 10-06-2010 01:16 PM

cant wait to see what this build does on your cold canadian air, eh??

**GURUMAN** · 10-06-2010 04:39 PM

My heart stopped today while I stopped at the Garage and saw my good old 3.0L sitting with new tial turbos.

Whe are all looking forward toward the promising monster torque curve...

I'm just a bit concerned about tha poor little southbend

**wdbdy2000s4** · 10-06-2010 05:00 PM

Does mike drop all of his engines like that? I would have done it the way you did.

Looking forward to results

**GURUMAN** · 10-06-2010 05:16 PM

Mike is very creative !

**Reich** · 10-06-2010 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by GURUMAN

My heart stopped today while I stopped at the Garage and saw my good old 3.0L sitting with new tial turbos.

Whe are all looking forward toward the promising monster torque curve...

I'm just a bit concerned about tha poor little southbend

I'm starting to think about my SB as well. Damm that wasn't supposed to be that powerfull so soon. I hope it will hold like Sherif's one.
Finger crossed. I can't spend more than that this year. We will see next year.

**Reich** · 10-06-2010 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by wdbdy2000s4

Does mike drop all of his engines like that? I would have done it the way you did.

Looking forward to results

What ever the way he do it. I can tell that in the first day, He was all ready starting to install the hoses for the new turbos.

**GURUMAN** · 10-06-2010 05:24 PM

Sorry man, can'T go for beer, it's babysiting week, my wife is going back to work !

**Reich** · 10-06-2010 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by GURUMAN

Sorry man, can'T go for beer, it's babysiting week, my wife is going back to work !

No worry.. I'll go at your home and bring some cogniac...LOL. Ok man. We'll see you soon.

**Reich** · 10-06-2010 06:38 PM

So here we go.
The mod list that i have so far.

Engine sise= Guruman's engine
Deverters= turbosmart kompact (closed)
Inlets= 034 RS4 carbon firber that merge into 2 1/4'' stainless inlets
Intake manifold = RS4
bipipe = ard
Throtle body= 80mm HEMI w 034tbb
Turbos= bullseyepower to 770R
MAF= EPL MAF
Fuel rails= 034
Injectors= Bosch ev 14 830
Fuel pump = walbro 255 with twin MSD fuel pump mounted in parallel
Intercoolers = Evolution Raceworks with shrouds
PCV = custom and catch can
Tune = EPL
Mounts= 034 track density APr front snub
Clutch = Tilton unsprung twin disc
Down pipes= custom from 2 1\2 to 3''
Cats= twin 3'' metal cats.
exhaust line= custom 4''
Muffler= Vibrand 4'' to twin 3'' stainless black.
Coil-overs = st suspension.
Brakes= Adams disc rear/ don't remember front. With hawk ferocarbon pads. Still on hp2.

I do miss some, but i'll update as soon as it pops in my head.

**Sherif** · 10-06-2010 07:40 PM

the SB is so easy to drive man! I hope it hold well for you, mine never slipped yet (brady told me it did a litle on the dyno) I have about 10 6000 RPM lauches on it so far

The Montreal audi club planned a cruze to St-Sauveur on october 23rd... it's pretty soon but I'll be in Montreal that week end, It would be great if you could make it, we could go at I-Car for some 1/4 miles run after a nice dinner in the Laurentides, Mike told me he have a marriage but he may come with us before....

by the way he did a great time there 2 weeks ago with his single turbo 2.7l Coupe ;)

**Reich** · 10-06-2010 07:47 PM

Are you sure it's 23thrd? because i've heared it was 31st.

**Sherif** · 10-07-2010 05:42 AM

100% sure it's 23rd, I just had a confirmation from Jonathan.

**Reich** · 10-07-2010 08:06 PM

Mike started the car today and ran well. He did a couple of test drive to finish to remove oil in exhaust. Blue smoke everywhere outside.

The sound is so nice. It's amaysing of how that the sound have change that much after a turbo swap.
Sounds deeper, more bass and we can hear the turbines. The only thing left is the front bumper. Because Steeve repaint-it.
Tomorow, Friday is dyno time. What a nice way to start a weekend. Is there anything better to have your car ready for the weekend?
Thanks to Mike and George that have put soo much effort into it today.

**Sherif** · 10-08-2010 06:15 AM

[QUOTE=Reich;5751280]
Mikes is working really fast by the way. [QUOTE]

Nice to see how fast this is going! seem like you went to the right place ;)

**NogaroAvant** · 10-08-2010 10:43 AM

Looking forward to your dyno's bud. In car video would be great too! lol

**Reich** · 10-08-2010 07:40 PM

Ok the southbend stage 5 clutch slipped at only around 450 wtq. I think i know the problem now. It holded 516wtq when it was bullseye and now that we have put 770R, It slip at that low. But i think i have the answer. i was thinking of that while going back home.
The car is still at Rombotis because the front bumper is not painted yet.
Let's just say that they spool later than the small turbos that i had before. but it made more power and torque at the same boost/ rpm level.

**Reich** · 10-09-2010 10:57 AM

I'm pretty sure that my slave clutch broked again and driping oil on my clutch. Mike will confirm. Is there a reason why those slave are so weak?

I know that the best thing to do is put a twin disc inside. But i just can't afford to do that. And i was not supposed to make that much hp at the begining.
But i do expect more clamp from those clutch. Think Sherif's car.
We will see what Mike finds out.

Edit: I like the taste of your new drink that you brought at the shop GURUMAN.

**Reich** · 10-10-2010 08:09 AM

So by the time that Mike takes care of my clutch, think it would be nice to post some pics of my exhaust.
The exhaust is made by my friend Martin from turbo ms. http://www.turboms.com/

**Reich** · 10-10-2010 08:11 AM

Some more.

All 304 ss

**gearhead1186** · 10-10-2010 08:53 AM

maybe southbend can modify your PP to have a higher clamp rating. give em a call, its a possible affordable solution.

how much did you pay to have your exhaust done? any videos?

**Reich** · 10-10-2010 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by gearhead1186

maybe southbend can modify your PP to have a higher clamp rating. give em a call, its a possible affordable solution.

how much did you pay to have your exhaust done? any videos?

I do have a vid of sound clip but the camera automatically swith to a sound protection and cut a half of the sound. i'll post that later on.

I did phone the guys from south bend and he told me that i need a break in before rising the hp. which i don't believe. Anyway, the breaking is done. I sure it has something to do with my slave that broked again and leak oil inside again. Third thime that this happens. Mike is supposed to modify this.