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    Senior Member Two Rings 02A4_B6's Avatar
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    VERY strange timing

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    plugged up my brothers OBDII reader that has a live feed mode. it read that at 40MPH in 3rd gear at 2900RPMs my timing is advanced 39 degrees!! this is not normal is it?
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    Veteran Member Four Rings MmmBoost's Avatar
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    what do you think it should be?


    39° during cruise sounds about right.

    here's a quick little log from my GT2871R setup so you can have a look at timing and what it should look like

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...UP&hl=en#gid=0
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    Senior Member Two Rings 02A4_B6's Avatar
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    thank you very much.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Audi Skate Snow's Avatar
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    low RPMs yo will have a lot of timing... if you look at his logs once he hits full boost and at tq peak he is around 6 degrees of timing.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings bananas's Avatar
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    Here's what a timing map looks like (not stock). Low loads yield a lot of timing, and it's actually higher RPMs that yield more timing (because the piston is moving faster, you have to start combustion earlier for an efficient burn).

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    Registered User Four Rings Sales@RAI's Avatar
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    Lol at chris confusing everyone

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    Veteran Member Three Rings A4twin's Avatar
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    Quick question... What is supposely normal, just logged my car and It was anywhere between 4-12.
    TIA

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    Veteran Member Four Rings bananas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4twin View Post
    Quick question... What is supposely normal, just logged my car and It was anywhere between 4-12.
    TIA
    It depends on RPM and load (look at the graph above) and tune and fuel octane.

    If you're just cruising downhill, 40 is normal. On flat surface, maybe 30-40. If you're cruising uphill, maybe 25-30. If you're at WOT and 7000rpm, anywhere between 8 and 15 depending on fuel and boost levels..

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    Veteran Member Four Rings MmmBoost's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4twin View Post
    Quick question... What is supposely normal, just logged my car and It was anywhere between 4-12.
    TIA
    4 and 12 degrees? where? idle? cruising? full boost?
    ~Chris

    I sold my Audis and bought a Touareg... Catch me over at Club Touareg
    My B6 Avant GT2871R build
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    "Robert Bosch don't fuck around"

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    Veteran Member Four Rings MmmBoost's Avatar
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    from my build thread.........




    This is a 3D graph of my actual timing numbers reported over a wide range of load conditions.
    ~Chris

    I sold my Audis and bought a Touareg... Catch me over at Club Touareg
    My B6 Avant GT2871R build
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    "Robert Bosch don't fuck around"

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    Veteran Member Three Rings A4twin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MmmBoost View Post
    4 and 12 degrees? where? idle? cruising? full boost?
    i'll try to up load the spreadsheat, 2nd to 3rd gear pull(couldn't go to fast where i did this) from 3k to 6k.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Dan[FN]6262's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4twin View Post
    i'll try to up load the spreadsheat, 2nd to 3rd gear pull(couldn't go to fast where i did this) from 3k to 6k.
    what software?
    EFR | 7163
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