Running no snub mount

[dowsett6]

If your running track density motor, tranny and rear diff mounts, Do you even need to run the snub mount?

Flame if you want...

And what motions is the snub even stopping? The front and backwards movement of the engine when engaging/disengaging the clutch? And wouldn't a DTS bar stop that from moving then?

[revbjeff]

I noticed when my snub mount was missing but I have stock mounts everywhere else. You could really feel it kick when shifting. Put in a 034 mount setup and it's a lot better.

Why you wanting to get rid of it?

[hercfe]

I noticed when my snub mount was missing but I have stock mounts everywhere else. You could really feel it kick when shifting. Put in a 034 mount setup and it's a lot better.

Why you wanting to get rid of it?

I would imagine to reduce more weight up front by doing a custom aluminum lower rad support without worrying about the snub mount.

[biketsai]

I think there are other things to do to replace weight other than removing the stock radiator/snub mount. Just my .02

[MOtown A4]

I think there are other things to do to replace weight other than removing the stock radiator/snub mount. Just my .02

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[dowsett6]

It doesn't support the rad. Its only a boost pipe and snub. I'm running a fmic anyways so I only use it for a snub.

And I have the 034 snub and cradle right now.

I mainly wondered what it tries to accomplish since I couldn't find an answer from searching all different key words about it.

[biketsai]

I believe it reduces play in the driveline. Especially when under load the front of the motor wants to pop up, a good snub mount prevents it from shifting/tilting back.

[FNK]

The snub is not directly at the center, so my guessing is it's mostly to take the engine twisting its way through the hood and help the longevity of the engine mount.

[walky_talky20]

Excess engine movement is hard on other things as well, like the exhaust flex pipe, wiring harness, intercooler pipes, etc.

[somebody5788]

The snub mount is more of a torque mount not a motor mount but removing it would be extremely undesirable.

[dowsett6]

Okay, I will just chop off the inlets on the sides and weld them up.

I would have just thought the engine wouldn't be twisting much since I'm running the firm track mounts everywhere.

[2001A4QUATTRO]

If you have track mounts ( engine x2 and trans x2? ) and a DTS I cant imagine it even mattering. The track mounts allow NO movement. Just make sure you get the JHM solid DTS mount.

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[somebody5788]

If you have track mounts ( engine x2 and trans x2? ) and a DTS I cant imagine it even mattering. The track mounts allow NO movement. Just make sure you get the JHM solid DTS mount.

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IMO that's like saying you have race springs on 3 wheels so you don't need your 4th wheel.

[2001A4QUATTRO]

Well most track mounts are a little softer than a solid set-up, but not by much. Track mounts are not hydraulic they are solid poly. With 2 engine, 2 trans mounts and a solid DTS... That is better than the car came stock. If I was saying to take out one of the main mounts than I could see what you are saying. As stated previously, the snub is only a torque mount. /

[adam.wilber]

i replaced my factory snub mount with an APR poly mount... now for my question... what might happen if i swap out my motor/tranny mounts out for solid aluminum ones?

[dowsett6]

You will get some vibrations. Even with my firm track mounts there is vibration, but barely anything. I only really notice my hood vibrating in the sun, and I like it since its like I got a muscle car engine in my car.

[Info@RavenMS]

If your running track density motor, tranny and rear diff mounts, Do you even need to run the snub mount?

Flame if you want...

And what motions is the snub even stopping? The front and backwards movement of the engine when engaging/disengaging the clutch? And wouldn't a DTS bar stop that from moving then?

The reason why you have a Snub Mount is cause the Front axles are connected directly to the Engine.(engine being bolted to Trans etc) With the resistance of the Axle turning/rotating, it causes the Force on the Trans/engine to lift in Opposite direction. For Example: Driving forward, the engine wants to lift.... if you drive backwards the engine wants to Drop down. The snub mount was design to help Aid In keeping the motor level. One reason why all S4 motor mounts always crack, Is because of the motor lifting during hard Acceleration.

[dowsett6]

The reason why you have a Snub Mount is cause the Front axles are connected directly to the Engine.(engine being bolted to Trans etc) With the resistance of the Axle turning/rotating, it causes the Force on the Trans/engine to lift in Opposite direction. For Example: Driving forward, the engine wants to lift.... if you drive backwards the engine wants to Drop down. The snub mount was design to help Aid In keeping the motor level. One reason why all S4 motor mounts always crack, Is because of the motor lifting during hard Acceleration.

Okay, thats an awesome reply. And actually makes alot of sense. Keeping the 034 cradle and snub for sure.

[pipe7284]

here is what happens when not using a snub mount.

[99blueb5]

you also have to remember that the front snub mount bracket/boost pipes help tie the left and right side of the frame rails together, removing that will have a lot of unwanted movement especially once your in boost

[chris164935]

034's Time Attack B5 has track density mounts all around and they do not run the front snub mount. The track density mounts don't have any play in them. With the stock rubber motor mounts, there is a lot of slop that the snub mount helps to eliminate.

[2001A4QUATTRO]

^^^ Great reply. I believe everybody here doesn't listen to what was already posted twice...

While using the stock mounts the snub is definately required.
While using track density MM and TM and a solid DTS the snub mount is useless.

Extra mounts cause extra vibration sometimes. I had a track acura integra and had full track rear, pass and drivers side MM.
I also purchased the 2 front torque mounts. Had TONS of vibes. Turns out that the front two torque mounts were not necessary
due to the fact that the track mounts were solid.

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