Some dyno graphs.........

[b6bydesign04]

Thanks for graphs, very exciting news indeed. Congrats on all the hard work!

Everyone should also expect a slow release. Meaning we will control installations in house for early adopters until we are comfortable with the security of the technology.

Hmmm, sounds like the perfect excuse to drive down to AL and check out the facilities, haha. Congrats again guys! Thanks for stepping in and educating everyone as well.

[Proogz]

If I am going to trust any of the graphs that have been released on this car when it relates to HP/TQ numbers I can say that APR is probably one of the closest to hitting the true real stock numbers that the car puts out. Yes I know they did stock runs with their exhaust but if you factor that out you can sorta really get a good estimate on what it really is running at.

93Octane map is incredible. 489CHP? 377AWHP? that is pretty intense. I was not even expecting anywhere near that number chip wise for this car. It now puts our cars in a whole different league chipped.. Easily with the Tune and the Exhaust you will be shitting over Stock M3s due to the massive increase in gains pass 5200RPM.

Can expect that 91 will be that magic 430-440CHP that we all have been talking about?

[primetime]

If I am going to trust any of the graphs that have been released on this car when it relates to HP/TQ numbers I can say that APR is probably one of the closest to hitting the true real stock numbers that the car puts out. Yes I know they did stock runs with their exhaust but if you factor that out you can sorta really get a good estimate on what it really is running at.

93Octane map is incredible. 489CHP? 377AWHP? that is pretty intense. I was not even expecting anywhere near that number chip wise for this car. It now puts our cars in a whole different league chipped.. Easily with the Tune and the Exhaust you will be shitting over Stock M3s due to the massive increase in gains pass 5200RPM.

Can expect that 91 will be that magic 430-440CHP that we all have been talking about?

I'm more excited to hear the 100 octane numbers since I can get it at 3 stations within 15 minutes of my house..... weeeeeee

[Proogz]

I'm more excited to hear the 100 octane numbers since I can get it at 3 stations within 15 minutes of my house..... weeeeeee

I am excited to see what the 100 Octane numbers will be. However in my case where I cannot find that unless I go to the track, the highest I can obtain is at Sunoco which is Ultra 94. So I am more focused on that 489/377 number if anything and more excited on seeing that than anything else. I mean I can say I am more excited to see the 91 numbers than the 100.

[madmadS4]

If I am going to trust any of the graphs that have been released on this car when it relates to HP/TQ numbers

then you'll have to believe that the stock car produces 420 CHP (according to APRs chart here, and the data on their exhaust).

I'm going to get skeptical here again. why are these charts not actual screenshots / scan output of the dyno report? also - I've seen plenty of S4 dynos and the torque curve is more of a plateau - not a smooth hill. this has been widely discussed and agreed.

[Proogz]

then you'll have to believe that the stock car produces 420 CHP (according to APRs chart here, and the data on their exhaust).

I'm going to get skeptical here again. why are these charts not actual screenshots / scan output of the dyno report? also - I've seen plenty of S4 dynos and the torque curve is more of a plateau - not a smooth hill. this has been widely discussed and agreed.

I believe the car is more within the 410-415 range stock.

The other day I was at the track. I saw a tuned Cobalt SS go up against this Phantom S4. S4 was completely stock. I talked to the SS owner after because the go both cars had was pretty intense. The SS was bone stock but just had a ecu tune. He said he was running at around 300-305 to the wheels. The SS also weighs a shit load less than the B8 S4.

The s4 took the SS at the end. On paper if our cars were really 285-300AWHP the SS should have taken a big american dump all over the S4. But it diddnt.

Take it as you want. But I have seen our cars take on a whole line up of tuned, and stock cars that on paper should be able to take us, but havent.

[primetime]

I believe the car is more within the 410-415 range stock.

The other day I was at the track. I saw a tuned Cobalt SS go up against this Phantom S4. S4 was completely stock. I talked to the SS owner after because the go both cars had was pretty intense. The SS was bone stock but just had a ecu tune. He said he was running at around 300-305 to the wheels. The SS also weighs a shit load less than the B8 S4.

The s4 took the SS at the end. On paper if our cars were really 285-300AWHP the SS should have taken a big american dump all over the S4. But it diddnt.

Take it as you want. But I have seen our cars take on a whole line up of tuned, and stock cars that on paper should be able to take us, but havent.

So what did they run?