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    UPDATED: 10/29/2014

    So, this build has been off and on for the past 7 years. Now that I am out of school, working full time, and have my own house/garage, it's time to start working on this thing again (albeit, still at a snail's pace). Some of these parts I've had for the past 7 years sitting around collecting dust, but no more! It is time to get this thing running again. The goal is to at least crank it up (most likely without intercooler plumbing) to get some play time with the Vi-PEC unit as well as just to make sure timing is correct and to just hear it roar again. Also, nothing in here is set in stone, so expect changes, even with how close she is to being done.

    PARTS LIST*
    HEAD
    AEB Head With Massive Port And Polish
    IE Adjustable Cam Gear
    CAT Cams 1003756 Solid Billet Cams
    CAT Cams Gold Valve Springs
    Supertech 1mm OS Black Nitride Intake Valves With Single Groove Keeper
    Supertech 1mm OS Sodium-Filled Inconel Exhaust Valves With Single Groove Keeper
    Supertech Solid Lifter Buckets
    Supertech Lash Caps
    Supertech Titanium Retainers
    ARP Exhaust Studs

    TURBO/EXHAUST
    Precision Turbo PT6266 CEA V-Band .82 Turbine With Ported S Cover
    JDLAutoDesign Tubular Exhaust Manifold
    JDLAutoDesign 3" Downpipe
    Borla Muffler
    Custom 3" Exhaust With V-Banded Sections

    BLOCK
    06A Block Bored To 83.xxmm
    9.25:1 83mm JE FSR Pistons
    144mm Pauter Rods
    ARP Custom Age 625 Rod Bolts
    Knife-Edged Forged Transverse 86.4mm Crank
    ACL Race Series Rod Bearings
    Mahle Motorsports VP2 Series Main Bearings
    ARP Main Studs
    ARP Head Studs
    IE Billet FSI Crank Gear
    Fluidampr FSI Harmonic Balancer

    DRIVETRAIN/BRAKES
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    034 Track Density Transmission Mounts
    034/Apikol Track Density Diff. Mount And Bracket
    Clutchmasters FX700 With Steel Flywheel
    312mm Front Brake Upgrade

    INTAKE
    2.5" Charge Piping
    Custom Air-to-Air Intercooler Setup
    IE Large Port Intake Manifold
    80mm Hemi Throttle Body

    ENGINE MANAGEMENT/FUELING
    Vi-PEC i88
    Innovate LC-1 Wideband
    Racepak IQ3 Display
    Racepak IQ3-To-Vi-PEC i88 Harness
    Fuel Injector Clinic 1000cc High-Impedance Injectors
    Twin Bosch 044 Pumps
    IE Dual Pump Surge Tank
    -6AN Fuel Lines
    IE Fuel Rail
    Fuelab Mini Adjustable FPR

    *Parts list subject to change without notice.

    First, the car: a 2001 Audi A4 1.8tQM. Nothing too special; Hibiscous Red (one of my favorite colors ), stock wheels, Eibach lowering springs, and Bilstein shocks.


    For the head, during the process of porting and polishing, we discovered that more machining would be required in order for the cams to freely rotate in the head (since the cam lobes are MUCH larger than stock).





    I had a forged 1.8t crank sent off to Jared at SCCH for knife-edging and balancing.


    I went with Mahle Motorsport bearings because they come highly recommended for performance applications and they come in the correct 5 grooved, 5 smooth format (versus ACL bearings, which are 6 grooved, 4 smooth; could cause problems with oil pressure, especially in high horsepower applications).



    Some random pictures of the motor being assembled.
    Here, we had to notch and bend the oil squirters in order to allow for free rotation of the rotating assembly with the FSR pistons.







    Some friction shims; one for the crank nose and another for the flywheel.


    Currently, we are in the process of timing the camshafts.


    You can't really see it because of the Fluidampr but behind it is the IE billet crank gear. A word of warning: these crank gears do NOT come with the indent to install a harmonic balancer correctly (correctly meaning being able to use the marking on the harmonic balancer to line up with the marking on the timing belt cover to find TDC). You will have to manually find TDC by using a degree wheel, or hope like hell your crankshaft did not move 1 degree when removing the old crank gear or installing the new one.
    Also, we haven't fully torqued down the gear or balancer yet, which is why there are only 2 bolts holding it on right now.


    Precision Turbo.


    IE Intake Manifold.


    Vi-PEC i88.


    RacePak IQ3 digital display dash.


    The motor and transmission mounts.


    Clutchmasters FX700.

    Last edited by chris164935; 04-24-2016 at 10:14 AM. Reason: Updated.
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    soooo jealous. Looks great so far.
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    awesome
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    MORE PICKS OF THE CAR! great color.
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    Great build. Moved for you
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    Cant wait to hear what it sounds like , especially at full boost. goodluck to you sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anmagro View Post
    MORE PICKS OF THE CAR! great color.
    Got none.
    Last edited by chris164935; 10-29-2014 at 10:39 AM.
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    Awesome color for so much HP. Real understatement!

    I have the Apikol rear diff mount in street density, I wonder how much worse the race density is. I have T/D motor/tranny mounts everywhere else, but was told to stay away from the red bushing as its really harsh.. Probably just opinion though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiSportB5S4 View Post
    Awesome color for so much HP. Real understatement!

    I have the Apikol rear diff mount in street density, I wonder how much worse the race density is. I have T/D motor/tranny mounts everywhere else, but was told to stay away from the red bushing as its really harsh.. Probably just opinion though.
    Oh, I'm sure it's gonna be rough. But I'm not really worried about all that. This is gonna be my fun car; not really a daily driver.
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    very nice build. just one question this is the first time ive heard of it or seen it done, whats the purpose of knife edging the crank?
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    Looks like a killer build! Glad to see that you actually have a knife edged (or boat tailed as I learned) crank. That shows that you are paying attention to detail and I respect that.

    Good luck!
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    good to see all this going into a Quattro car this time
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    Just make sure that crank is still perfectly balanced if you are intending to spin high revs.

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    See Post #1 for most recent update.
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    Nice build so far. I am assuming its going to be a drag car. If it is what times are you shooting for?
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    Hmmm... I know what I'd like to run, but I don't want to speculate yet.

    I am looking to get into the NSCRA Outlaw Street class though based on my car's setup: http://www.nscra.com/outlaw-street
    And the IFO: http://www.importfaceoff.net/race_rules.htm
    Probably run in the Forced Induction Sport or Forced Induction Pro class.
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    i cant wait to see this car at NSCRA....I am at almost every event in south florida....good luck man i will be watching your build as it goes along...do werk son

    also where do you go to school and what career are you shooting for?
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    the race pak is an awesome touch. im using aim sports
    I wanna do a burnout at heavens gate in an audi

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris164935 View Post
    Quick teaser: Picked up some throttle bodies for $47 shipped.
    oh hell yeah.
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    Are you going to fit a newer cam tensioner and do the little trick 034 did with their race car? Should help get that turbo spinning a little earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoremile View Post
    Are you going to fit a newer cam tensioner and do the little trick 034 did with their race car? Should help get that turbo spinning a little earlier.
    I've thought about it; not sure how reliable the tensioner would be pushing high RPMs though. Most likely just end up using a non-VVT tensioner to start... Definitely got enough things going on with this build for now.
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    Ummmm, update? And you are going to run 4 TBs? One on each runner?
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    One would assume so Seerlah, Quad throttle bodies aren't new designs. Nissan GTiR's have this setup in Australia. Crazy fast cars with minimal work done, 350hp at all 4's in a car that weighs 1100kg (2400lb). A lot of boys here that are on their P License (restricted from driving turbo till they have had their license for atleast 3 - 4 years) run them on NA SR20's and do quite well.
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    Very nice but is only for transverse cars...
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    shoot, I completely missed that. Sorry. But I'm sure Markku could do a t4 variant of the manifold he currently offers with a v-band. I can vouch for the quailty of his craftsmanship.


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    Good luck, looks like a solid project.
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    this is totally boss.
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    Could you take a picture of the inside of the SEM?
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    That manifold looks pretty nice.

    Could you shoot 1 more picture looking up one of the runners towards the plenum?

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