The Best twin disc clutch FW setup with solid proof?

[Europowerhaus]

Guys, how is the ASP setup? Also, I havent heard about anyone using the Spec mini twin? Thanks

[VAST]

We haven't made an official announcement yet regarding our new setup, but we'll poke into this thread for you to possibly guide you into what you'd want for a twin disc setup...

This was our prototype run of the setup with an aluminum flywheel, but the production will be a steel flywheel.. Rather than the 8.5" discs out there now, this is the largest you can go on the S4.. 9.5"!







This is going to be by far your best option for a twin disc... Entering a market with a few options already out there we had to offer something that wasn't yet available. If you've ever driven or heard a Tilton engage, they are noisy and extremely hard to drive around town comfortably.. Sure you'll get used to the aggressive engagement, but with our setup what we have done is created a virtually silent twin disc setup AND the pedal effort similar to a B7 A4, so you'll never get tired of driving it! Such easy effort on a clutch setup that will hold 1000+Hp/Tq is why we are certain you won't regret your choice with this new setup. Throw anything at it and you won't slip it.

Price point is targeted to be around $2,100-$2,200 and they will be released sometime soon by the end of summer. For inquires please call the shop. The price includes all the hardware you need to install the clutch, the alignment tool, and a new metal throw out bearing.

[RedRocketS4]

If you've ever driven or heard a Tilton engage, they are noisy and extremely hard to drive around town comfortably.

I can definitely agree with this. My Tilton/ASP setup is very loud and chatters like crazy. A lot of people that don't know my car think I have a diesel. You HAVE to rev to 2k rpm+ during initial take-off or else it feel like an earthquake in the car. Also, when shifting gears you can hear the squeal of the cutch everytime... but I must say that it holds the power without a hiccup.

I wish VAST had this out a few months back when I was in the middle of my build. o well, it'll probably be my next clutch. Good stuff!!!

[VAST]

This is not a retrofit by any means.. It accepts the leaf design and the plate is studded to the flywheel, unlike the competition. The drivability on solid hubs has been fine and when you're building a car that can't use a sprung hub disk, who is willing to risk a hub failing? This design helps avoid any sort of need for softening the center.

I wish VAST had this out a few months back when I was in the middle of my build. o well, it'll probably be my next clutch. Good stuff!!!

Thank you

[lotusgardener]

This is not a retrofit by any means.. It accepts the leaf design and the plate is studded to the flywheel, unlike the competition. The drivability on solid hubs has been fine and when you're building a car that can't use a sprung hub disk, who is willing to risk a hub failing? This design helps avoid any sort of need for softening the center.



Thank you

I love your price point more and understand you dont have the tooling available to make a full billet unit and pressure plate but a sprung disc will always be better for dual purpose cars. The solid hub disc will have instantaneous engagement and be harder to drive on the street. I am just assuming you had a hard time fitting a sprung hub disc with that cast pressure plate. But eitehr way I like teh innovation and thats a great unit either way. I just think your embelishing a little on teh characteristics it will have.

[VAST]

I love your price point more and understand you dont have the tooling available to make a full billet unit and pressure plate but a sprung disc will always be better for dual purpose cars. The solid hub disc will have instantaneous engagement and be harder to drive on the street. I am just assuming you had a hard time fitting a sprung hub disc with that cast pressure plate. But eitehr way I like teh innovation and thats a great unit either way. I just think your embelishing a little on teh characteristics it will have.

Thanks, but no need to embellish anything there... If anyone is ever in the Detroit area and has to feel it to believe it, they can schedule a time to swing by and feel this clutch setup in our test car for themselves. It truly is something you have to feel to 100% believe. We have stood behind our clutch choices to offer a very strong setup that takes it a step beyond our long run of very good clutches dating back to early 2003, no need to state anything but the truth and our pure excitement for such a great twin disc option.

But Thank you for your input, hopefully you'll hear some customer feed back soon enough with our new setup

[imola]

Clutchmasters FX850. 'Nuff said.

[NogaroWonda00]

Clutchmasters FX850. 'Nuff said.

This...

I've had mine for 2k now, super happy with it. It's a tad noisy when the clutch is engaged, shifts smooth and starts out just as easy as it did, very streetable clutch.

Just make sure you've got upgraded motor and trans mounts lol...

[Haenszel20v]

Clutchmasters FX850. Way better than the 700/725, and the Tilton. Not loud at all, barely noticable and drives 1000x better than the others. I had a 725 before this, and have driven a couple tiltons. the FX850 takes the crown.

[lotusgardener]

yeah the fx850 is a dream, with kevlar discs you get zero noise or chatter and power handling to dream of to exceed. Not to mention all the other options are purpose built twin discs while Vasts looks kind of like a retrofit by extending bolts for the pressure plate etc., but I do like their price point a lot. The CM setup is also substantially lighter than any clutch setup out there and since it doesnt chatter helps reduce rotating mass as well. I am sure Vasts setup is heavier looking at the pressure plate and flywheel setup. What I am worried about is I see only solid hub discs which will in no way be as friendly as they say given that. Unless of course its just a prototype and they will have a single sprung hub disc and 1 solid dics in their setups. Engagement with just solid hub discs is to instant to drive comfortably regardless of pedal feel.

[Tarmac]

yeah the fx850 is a dream, with kevlar discs you get zero noise or chatter and power handling to dream of to exceed. Not to mention all the other options are purpose built twin discs while Vasts looks kind of like a retrofit by extending bolts for the pressure plate etc., but I do like their price point a lot. The CM setup is also substantially lighter than any clutch setup out there and since it doesnt chatter helps reduce rotating mass as well. I am sure Vasts setup is heavier looking at the pressure plate and flywheel setup. What I am worried about is I see only solid hub discs which will in no way be as friendly as they say given that. Unless of course its just a prototype and they will have a single sprung hub disc and 1 solid dics in their setups. Engagement with just solid hub discs is to instant to drive comfortably regardless of pedal feel.

Interesting you say the Clutch Master FX850 is substantially lighter than any clutch setup out there. Are you guys using the Clutch Master FX850 Twin disc with the Clutch Master billet aluminum flywheel & in doing so dose this setup chatter much?

I went on the Clutch Master site but it seems they don't list the FX850 Twin disc?? Never the less can you guys point me to other B5 S4 suppliers for the FX850 Twin disc? I would like to check prices with this VAST kit.

[imola]

Interesting you say the Clutch Master FX850 is substantially lighter than any clutch setup out there. Are you guys using the Clutch Master FX850 Twin disc with the Clutch Master billet aluminum flywheel & in doing so dose this setup chatter much?

I went on the Clutch Master site but it seems they don't list the FX850 Twin disc?? Never the less can you guys point me to other B5 S4 suppliers for the FX850 Twin disc? I would like to check prices with this VAST kit.

Give Mike at Wicked Motorsports a call. He can put together variations of the FX850 for you, depending on your driving style, what you like, etc.. CM is local to him, so turnaround is a breeze.

[lotusgardener]

Interesting you say the Clutch Master FX850 is substantially lighter than any clutch setup out there. Are you guys using the Clutch Master FX850 Twin disc with the Clutch Master billet aluminum flywheel & in doing so dose this setup chatter much?

I went on the Clutch Master site but it seems they don't list the FX850 Twin disc?? Never the less can you guys point me to other B5 S4 suppliers for the FX850 Twin disc? I would like to check prices with this VAST kit.

Its billet steel and there is literally zero chatter with teh dual kevlar discs or single kevlar and 1 ceramic disc, this is also with 1 sprung hub and 1 solid hub disc. It is the best street compromise and you get zero I MEAN ZERO chatter and literally stock driveability.

[JDM EJ1 95]

Is have feedback on the spec mini twin if my machine.shop didn't lose my piston and rods...

[Gregg@USP]

gotta cast my vote for the Clutchmasters setup too. Unless you have $4K for a Tilton Carbon Carbon setup. By the way we have ClutchMasters clutches on special now. PM me for details

[NYCVR6]

gotta cast my vote for the Clutchmasters setup too. Unless you have $4K for a Tilton Carbon Carbon setup. By the way we have ClutchMasters clutches on special now. PM me for details

Tilton carbon carbon is the best.

[surfpac]

gotta cast my vote for the Clutchmasters setup too. Unless you have $4K for a Tilton Carbon Carbon setup. By the way we have ClutchMasters clutches on special now. PM me for details

I don't see the Clutchmaster's 850 twin disc on your site.

[Gregg@USP]

I don't see the Clutchmaster's 850 twin disc on your site.

It has not been added to the site yet, I do have them available PM me for pricing.

[revhards4]

I hear great things from the FX850 and I think the VAST twin disc is a great setup also as they increased it to 9.5" which helps engagement I would assume.

[Europowerhaus]

Sorry guys, I should have mentioned that this is a full track car, trailered, no street driving. Thanks

[Tarmac]

If not using the Clutch Master billet aluminum flywheel, then will the Steel CM flywheel limit the quicker revving characteristics as in a aluminum flywheel. (I'm looking for the quicker revving characteristics)

[Europowerhaus]

i think the thread died. WAKE UP!

[Tarmac]

Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!

[Evilevo]

Get the ASP Tilton. That is what I have.

It revs very fast and holds no problem.

Hit up VAST, they can get it for you.

It chatters, but it isn't as bad as everyone says, and the noise it makes when engaging just means something serious is coming
I drive mine everyday as a DD and have no problem with it

[lotusgardener]

i will post some pics of the fx850

[Jason@Addict]

i will post some pics of the fx850

Here's a picture of one of the first 8.5's that came out 2 years ago, I've installed every generation (about 6 from the original 7.25") and the latest are incredibly nice to drive, and hold BIG power.

[NogaroWonda00]

Here's a picture of one of the first 8.5's that came out 2 years ago, I've installed every generation (about 6 from the original 7.25") and the latest are incredibly nice to drive, and hold BIG power.

Hey Jason this is chris zumo
Yep I bought one of those from you about a month and a half ago, through byran@asw.

[Jason@Addict]

Hey Jason this is chris zumo
Yep I bought one of those from you about a month and a half ago, through byran@asw.

Hey Chris I thought that might be you - glad you're liking it!

[Jason@Addict]

CM 850 is the best twin out.

[pohsib]

eBay has the 850 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Clutc...ht_2527wt_1120]and it comes with a flywheel for the auction price. Does this VAST kit include a lightweight flywheel in the $2200 price? If not, seems like they will be the same price as the CM FX850.