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    You need to give a couple of good whacks with a hammer on the side of the spindle where the ball joint is and it should pop right out.

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    Great writeup! Anybody order the SKF wheel bearing kit and did it come with a dust ring? Can someone tell me which way to press the dust ring on the hub prior to pressing the hub on the wheel bearing? I've attached a picture showing how I was going to press it on. With the lip facing up and away from the hub flange and towards the wheel bearing. Thanks.

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    Scratch that I got the answer I was looking for. It's not even necessary for this style of hub. It's for the lightweight hubs ie: 4B0407613B
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    Hey I was looking at this write-up a few weeks back & it's perfect but it looks like the photos need to be re-hosted/re-posted again. OP could you please re-post them? It'd be a huge help, thanks!

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    Just wanted to say this is super helpful. However if you live in the north where there is salt you are going to need a press.

    I had to completely remove the spindle and bring it to a press to remove the bearing. It took well over 100lbs of force. So if you live where they use salt and plan to do this make sure you have some kind of press available and also be be prepare to remove the whole spindle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FraggyA4 View Post
    Just wanted to say this is super helpful. However if you live in the north where there is salt you are going to need a press.

    I had to completely remove the spindle and bring it to a press to remove the bearing. It took well over 100lbs of force. So if you live where they use salt and plan to do this make sure you have some kind of press available and also be be prepare to remove the whole spindle.
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    Ok i looked this over.. and if i may say awesome right up. i love people like this who give 10 point details on jobs likes these. But i got a question, i have a 2001 a6 2.8L now i'm not sure what to get i see like two different type. i see the press in and then the flange. now if you have the flange one is a press required? and also how the hell do i tell what one i have. plz correct me if im wrong. cuz i feel like i am.

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    First off, wrong section. You might get a better (more appropriate) response in the c5 section.

    The b6/7 s4's have the flange style wheel bearing and yes, a press is required. The flange/bearing assembly has to be pressed into the hub.

    Your c5 a6 has the press in bearing. Unfortunately, that's as far as my knowledge on the c5 wheel bearings go. Can't give much help on DIY.

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    Nothing in the B8 S4 forum on wheel bearings but I think it has the same setup as the B7 so I'm posting here.

    Before shelling out a hundred bucks for a bearing and potentially another hundred for the hub, how can I tell if my bearing is bad? I've got this funky noise coming from the passenger side front wheel. At first I thought it was a clunk from the suspension (but checked everything and it's all tight/OK), then I thought it might be rattling brake pads (went away when I installed new pads, but came back after they worn slightly) but now I'm thinking it might be a wheel bearing.

    It's a clunk or rattle type of noise. Mostly over bumps or when accelerating from a stop. Not noticeable at steady-state (e.g. wheel bearing not changing speed significantly) Most prevalent when I first start driving in the morning when the car is cold (usually goes away after about 1-2 miles of driving) and also when it's very hot out 90F+. So I'm thinking that maybe the cold and hot temperatures are bring out the noise in the bearing as the bearing expands/contracts?

    The car has about 84k on it, so I wouldn't be surprised if a bearing is due for replacement, but how can I be sure?
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    Also, any reason not to buy the centric branded ones that are already assembled?

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    So I sadly just had to do a wheel bearing replacement on my A4 and what a total bitch and a half... my buddy after the fact, told me that he recently replaced his REAR hub (A4) with the S4 hubs. Which is obviously aluminium and not pressed in like the A4 ones...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky17 View Post
    Great writeup! Anybody order the SKF wheel bearing kit and did it come with a dust ring? Can someone tell me which way to press the dust ring on the hub prior to pressing the hub on the wheel bearing? I've attached a picture showing how I was going to press it on. With the lip facing up and away from the hub flange and towards the wheel bearing. Thanks.

    I figured I would reply to an existing thread with a question..

    Is the dust ring needed on B7 RS? I have everything off except for the hub/bearing now. Stupid thing is seized. Hopefully it loosens a bit due to penetrating liquid wrench overnight.

    Also, ring on one side of bearing seems to just come off. Is that the side that needs to be pressed in towards the hub? I didn't know if I would get the answer once I get the bearing off (still hopeful)... Thanks!
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    Just did mine. Things to note:
    - do NOT use a wedge (chisel, screwdriver) between the bearing housing and spindle in an attempt to drive a stuck housing out. Use the technique below instead
    - if your bearing housings are corroded and stuck to the spindle, loosen off the four bolts about a 1/4", turn the steering so the bolt heads face as far forward as possible, then using your long breaker bar (e.g. 3') and the twelve-pt bit, place the bit into the bolt heat, straighten the breaker bar out as straight as you can get it (pass it between the torsion bar and frame for example) and then whack it hard with a 10# or better hammer. Work opposite bolt heads so that you drive the bearing hub out reasonably straight so it doesn't bind too much. I only used the two opposite bolts that I could get a reasonably straight line on and did not need the other two bolts. As it drives out, loosen off the bolts some more so you have more slack to whack out.
    Do NOT try to drive a wedge in between the bearing housing and the spindle (chisel, screwdriver, etc.). You will only end up damaging the spindle. Use this technique above and it'll come out no problem. Mine's a snow region car so was well corroded in there. I think the bearings may be original (135k). Driver's side was dang near falling off. Can't believe I didn't notice it as I'm normally pretty tuned to bad bearings...
    After getting it out, clean up the spindle opening with a wire brush, and judicious scraping of the corroded alloy in the socket that receives the bearing housing. Shine up all the bolts on your wire wheel buffer, and then apply antiseize to them and to the inside of the spindle opening, the ABS sensor bolt, etc. Also take the opportunity to hit all the bolt/stud ends with some penetrating oil even if not undoing them. It will help next time.

    When I pressed out the passenger side wheel hub, the bearing collapsed, even though that was not the "bad" one. Picked up two new from Autozone for 89 ea and a 1-yr warranty. When back together very easily after everything was cleaned up.
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    Fyi napa bearings are skf and got two for $175 with tax in CT using newyears code gave me 20% off plus $5 off in store with phone number. Some stores code didn't work. Should have been 10% off but did 20% off for me at some stores but that store had them in stock were $100 vs others that had for $80 but not in stock. So would have been $160 if I could have waited until monday which is better than best price I found online @ rmeuropean for $82.29 each.
    No bolts thou so i may purchase axle bolts at FCP for $1.36. Flange bolts are $1.63 but hope I dont strip and dont think they need replace even if supposedly stretch (IDK if are but axle bolt was tight) I think will be fine. Axle probably will be fine to reuse too. Worst case falls out can crash and die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilpaku View Post
    Just did mine. Things to note:
    - do NOT use a wedge (chisel, screwdriver) between the bearing housing and spindle in an attempt to drive a stuck housing out. Use the technique below instead
    - if your bearing housings are corroded and stuck to the spindle, loosen off the four bolts about a 1/4", turn the steering so the bolt heads face as far forward as possible, then using your long breaker bar (e.g. 3') and the twelve-pt bit, place the bit into the bolt heat, straighten the breaker bar out as straight as you can get it (pass it between the torsion bar and frame for example) and then whack it hard with a 10# or better hammer. Work opposite bolt heads so that you drive the bearing hub out reasonably straight so it doesn't bind too much. I only used the two opposite bolts that I could get a reasonably straight line on and did not need the other two bolts. As it drives out, loosen off the bolts some more so you have more slack to whack out.
    Do NOT try to drive a wedge in between the bearing housing and the spindle (chisel, screwdriver, etc.). You will only end up damaging the spindle. Use this technique above and it'll come out no problem. Mine's a snow region car so was well corroded in there. I think the bearings may be original (135k). Driver's side was dang near falling off. Can't believe I didn't notice it as I'm normally pretty tuned to bad bearings...
    After getting it out, clean up the spindle opening with a wire brush, and judicious scraping of the corroded alloy in the socket that receives the bearing housing. Shine up all the bolts on your wire wheel buffer, and then apply antiseize to them and to the inside of the spindle opening, the ABS sensor bolt, etc. Also take the opportunity to hit all the bolt/stud ends with some penetrating oil even if not undoing them. It will help next time.

    When I pressed out the passenger side wheel hub, the bearing collapsed, even though that was not the "bad" one. Picked up two new from Autozone for 89 ea and a 1-yr warranty. When back together very easily after everything was cleaned up.
    I had a real hard time getting the bearings out of spindles. I was unable to follow this technique partly because I could not even find my 4lb hammer..
    Got DS out finally using air hammer/chisel in socket after getting it budged by hammering socket.
    PS had no luck and nearly broke finger before giving up. Luckily finger not broke but nail about to fall off...

    I still have a noise. I just did rears and do not think noise if from them. DS front bearing was bad, PS seamed ok.

    I bought a 10lb hammer and will buy another 4lb hammer but trying to understand how to do this. When I put my breaker bar on the swivel end has to allow breaker to angle down but then absorbs most of the impact by flexing up when I hit it. If I turn 90* to prevent this then how do I angle end down so I can hit it? Also when I put pipe on end of breaker bar it tends to want to just expand so may need better pipe. I will just buy a longer breaker bar to solve that.

    Going to try to diagnose where noise coming from and attempt PS bearing again. Hope I dont fail again as should not have been a hard job but sucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilpaku View Post
    Just did mine. Things to note:
    - do NOT use a wedge (chisel, screwdriver) between the bearing housing and spindle in an attempt to drive a stuck housing out. Use the technique below instead
    - if your bearing housings are corroded and stuck to the spindle, loosen off the four bolts about a 1/4", turn the steering so the bolt heads face as far forward as possible, then using your long breaker bar (e.g. 3') and the twelve-pt bit, place the bit into the bolt heat, straighten the breaker bar out as straight as you can get it (pass it between the torsion bar and frame for example) and then whack it hard with a 10# or better hammer. Work opposite bolt heads so that you drive the bearing hub out reasonably straight so it doesn't bind too much. I only used the two opposite bolts that I could get a reasonably straight line on and did not need the other two bolts. As it drives out, loosen off the bolts some more so you have more slack to whack out.
    Do NOT try to drive a wedge in between the bearing housing and the spindle (chisel, screwdriver, etc.). You will only end up damaging the spindle. Use this technique above and it'll come out no problem. Mine's a snow region car so was well corroded in there. I think the bearings may be original (135k). Driver's side was dang near falling off. Can't believe I didn't notice it as I'm normally pretty tuned to bad bearings...
    After getting it out, clean up the spindle opening with a wire brush, and judicious scraping of the corroded alloy in the socket that receives the bearing housing. Shine up all the bolts on your wire wheel buffer, and then apply antiseize to them and to the inside of the spindle opening, the ABS sensor bolt, etc. Also take the opportunity to hit all the bolt/stud ends with some penetrating oil even if not undoing them. It will help next time.

    When I pressed out the passenger side wheel hub, the bearing collapsed, even though that was not the "bad" one. Picked up two new from Autozone for 89 ea and a 1-yr warranty. When back together very easily after everything was cleaned up.
    I don't want to discount what the OP wrote, but I am going to safely assume that about 90% of people that will DIY this job will have bearings stuck inside the spindle. I am doing this job currently, and I do have quite a collection of tools (minus a Quickjack and Press - Afraid to get the China Freight Press because of the horror stories of the bottle jacks randomly springing a leak, or the support beam always bends when you add more than 2T of pressure on their 10T rated H Press). These are areas to pay attention to (IMHO):

    1.) Carrier Bolts - if you don't have an impact wrench, these can be a pain. If you live in winter areas with salt all over the road, these can be especially painful. I have a Husky breaker bar that works great, that I got from Home Depot.
    2.) The Axles are not tough at all. I find that spraying PB Blaster or WD-40 works great. My method is to liberally spray the axle inside the bearing, wait 5 - 10 minutes or go grab a beer, come back, and light wack from a hammer jars it free. Once the axle is out, just set it aside. Just be mindful of the location of the axle. Now is a good time to replace the boot as well if it is frayed.
    3.) REMOVE the speed sensor. Don't risk it and it's not painful to remove. Just remove the allen bolt, and set it out of the way.
    4.) The Bearing Carrier Bolts are a MASSIVE pain in the ass. T55 Torx bit (not T60) fits, but is risky if the bolts are seized in, which they most likely are in rust country. Spend the money and get a -DECENT- Triple-Square/12Pt 12MM bit, 3/8" with 1/2" STEP or 1/2" Socket, and be very careful. DO NOT get the long 12MM 12Pt/Triple Square socket. Too wobbly, and does not transfer as much torque as the shorter bits do. These can be found at NAPA, some AAP, and some Pep Boys. I was not having any luck in my area finding these. But I know NAPA always have them in stock and their CARLYLE brand tools are REALLY good quality, sometimes better than Husky/Craftsman in terms of rigidity and longevity. But they do cost a little extra.
    5.) Now comes the pain in the butt part - removing the bearing housing assembly from the knuckle. This can be done as NEILPAKU wrote above. It can be done with an 8 lbs, 10 lbs, or 12 lbs sledge hammer, but an airhammer will make quick work of this in seconds. They are found everywhere and usually range in the $60 - $80 range, depending on where you live and how much price gouging Lowes, AAP, Pep Girls, AutoZone, O'Reilly, Rock Auto, NAPA, or Home Depot does.

    The other pain in the butt is removing the 4 12MM 12Pt/Triple-Square bolts from the housing. If you can tie the axle up and out of the way, or remove the axle completely (not necessary at all), you will have plenty of room with a breaker bar. It helps to wrap some painters tape around the tip of the bit for extra bite. An impact wrench makes the job helluva easy, but make sure you have a good impact bit or set your impact wrench to a low setting and work slowly to back the bolts out. If you strip out one or two of the bolts, here's what you can do -WITHOUT- removing the knuckle from the control arms:

    A.) Get an angle grinder, die grinder, or dremel with a good cut off wheel and cut the bolt as close to the knuckle as you can. BE PATIENT!! It's going to make the job longer, but you don't screw anything up. If you grind into the knuckle a little, don't worry about it. There's plenty of integrity on the knuckle for a good 100K+ more miles. YOU'RE FINE!! But don't go ham and grind into the knuckle and then keep grinding more notches. The goal of this job is to make it easier to punch the bolt out or screw the bolt out with a lager 12Pt/Torx bit with barely any strength. Literally. Less threads to back out, less work, less stress, more beer and laughs!
    B.) DRILL the bolt out. This method is what I used, regrettably, before I went with the above method (Method A). I went through a couple cobalt tips trying to get the bolt out, no avail. It wasn't until I finally grinded the bolt and punched it out that I saw I dug into the seat on the knuckle, where the bolt sits. If this happens to you, IT'S FINE! Don't stress about it, don't go crying about buying another knuckle. You can grind off about half of the seat of the bolt and it will still torque and sit in the seat perfectly fine. The other drawback to this method is it will take a LOOOONG time. I don't know what kind of bolts these are, but they are STRONG!!

    And the final pain in the butt: removing the hub from the bearing. I'm at the point where I think it is better to just buy a new hub and have a shop or the dealer press it in the bearing for you (warning: they may charge you $50 to $100 - I have no idea why for 5 minutes of work at best...). ECS Tuning, FCP Euro, JHM, Pelican Parts, all have great prices versus the dealer.

    The best part about this work is that it's far easier to put everything back together than it is to take it apart. Make sure to use anti-seize grease on the pinch bolts, axle, hub, and bearing housing when assembling things back together again. Trust me, it's WELL worth it when you have to do this job again, if you keep the car that long.

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