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    Veteran Member Four Rings FORCE_FED_DUB's Avatar
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    DIY: B7 RS4 Jack Pads Install

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    I did this on my B6 A4, but it applies to all non-RS4 8E chassis cars.

    A while back I picked up a set of OEM B7 RS4 Jack Pads from Greg @ DTH and finally got a chance to install them today (before the blizzard hit this afternoon; gotta love Colorado weather)

    The B7 RS4 has 6mm studs welded to the body that hold these on, the B6/B7 A4/S4 do not have these studs. Greg recommended the use of well nuts to attach the pads to the body, and to maintain the size (6mm) of the factory hardware. Luckily, I have the most kick ass hardware store ever about 10 minutes away (McGuckin Hardware in Boulder, CO) and for around $13 got (10) 1/4-20 well nuts, (10) 1/4-20 x ~1.5" bolts, and (10) 1/4" washers. You only need 8 of each, but it was cheaper for me to buy 10 of everything, and it's good to have spares. 1/4-20 is the standard equivalent to M6.

    The parts:


    The point of these pads is to avoid damage like this:

    And they provide a solid platform for a floor jack [duh]

    The fronts are very easy to install. Raise the car up and place it on jack stands; do not put the jack stands under the pinch rails. You are going to have to raise the car high enough to get a drill + bit under the car. Once the car is safely raised, test fit one of the front pads (both front pads are identical, the rears are mirror images and are obvious how they fit).


    Once the pad is located properly, use a sharpie to mark the locations of the holes:


    Then drill out the holes in increments. The well nuts I used require a 1/2" hole:


    Then insert the well nuts:


    Then screw in the bolts to their approximate torque spec (determined by the well nuts). If you over-tighten them, they will pull through.
    **TIP** before tightening the bolts, use the jack to firmly push the jack pad into the floor of the car. You don't need to lift the car off the jack stand, but a much better connection is made when bolts are tightened with the pads weight-loaded.

    First one done:


    The rears are a little more involved. The plastic under tray needs to be trimmed so that the pad makes a good, solid connection with the floor.
    After lining up the pad, trace the outline of the pad:


    Then remove the rear under tray (see fuel filter DIY if you need help removing this panel).
    Place it [gently] in a vice:


    Cut (I used a coping saw):


    After cutting:


    Reinstall under tray panel and mark the holes. You can see the difference in shape between the floor and plastic under tray:


    Drill, and install just like the front.


    My driver's rear pinch rail was already smashed, which caused the pad not to fit, and would prevent the removal of the sideskirt:



    After a minute or two with a pair of channel lock pliers, it was fixed and ready for the rest of the install. If you live in a rust prone area you might consider repairing the undercoating. I don't have to deal with rust issues so I didn't bother.



    And a picture of my puppy wondering what I'm doing with the camera, for good measure.



    *I'm not responsible if you manage to screw up your person or property while following this DIY*
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    Awesome post. I miss McGuckin's. Best place ever (I went to school @ CU).
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    Great post - I read about this 4-5 months ago or so and your pics/info really filled in the gaps.

    Thanks for the DIY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlarsen462 View Post
    Awesome post. I miss McGuckin's. Best place ever (I went to school @ CU).
    good to know a few people are at/near CU. I may be going there for grad school this fall.

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    ^ Went to grad school there. You'll like it.

    On topic, nice write up. Mind if we move it to our DIY section?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalS4Avant View Post
    ^ Went to grad school there. You'll like it.

    On topic, nice write up. Mind if we move it to our DIY section?
    Go for it!
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    wow that's nice

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    Do you have part numbers for the OEM parts?

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    Would also like to know the part numbers. This is a great mod.
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    Part numbers:

    (2) 8E0801789
    (1) 8E0801777
    (1) 8E0801778
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_DUB View Post
    Part numbers:

    (2) 8E0801789 $17.46 (x2)
    (1) 8E0801777 $17.46
    (1) 8E0801778 $17.46
    Thanks, I included the prices from genuineaudiparts.com

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    Drilling into the subframe will cause the holes to rust...what are you doing to prevent this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dparm View Post
    Drilling into the subframe will cause the holes to rust...what are you doing to prevent this?
    I drilled into the unibody, not subframe. The rubber well nuts create a water tight seal around the exposed steel; one could paint the holes or seal them with silicon when installing the well nuts if they are worried about rust. I live in a very dry climate, so it was of no concern to me.
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    If the jack will be at this spot , where the stand will go?

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    I installed them yesterday with silicone, hopfolly they stay

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_DUB View Post
    Part numbers:

    (2) 8E0801789 $17.46 (x2)
    (1) 8E0801777 $17.46
    (1) 8E0801778 $17.46
    * they're $24.18/ea now, on genuineaudiparts dotcom.

    Just ordered a set from the a stealership. Tired of the seam getting crushed.

    $190 Cnd total, ~$45 each + tax. Ouch... Oh well.

    Last edited by J0HN_R1; 04-28-2012 at 11:21 AM.

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    This just reminded me... The stealership called me a month or two ago, they're in.

    My seams are fk'd in the back on both sides, fronts aren't much better.

    More work to come for the ole' girl too, so they need to be fixed for good...


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    In case anyone needs the parts click the link below.

    Click HERE to order or for more information.


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    i am doing some price shopping for this and does anyone know the part number for that nuts and bolts and possibly a price?

    Jason from ECS do you have that full kit in stock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madkimchi View Post
    i am doing some price shopping for this and does anyone know the part number for that nuts and bolts and possibly a price?

    Jason from ECS do you have that full kit in stock?
    Unfortunately not at the moment. We get these from over seas and they are on order. Scheduled to be back in stock March 15th.

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    Sorry to bump such an old thread. I have had these sitting for over a year and I decided to install them today. Needless to say it was an epic fail. The kit had no instructions. I can't get the nuts and tighten down. How have people gone about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvsspeed View Post
    Sorry to bump such an old thread. I have had these sitting for over a year and I decided to install them today. Needless to say it was an epic fail. The kit had no instructions. I can't get the nuts and tighten down. How have people gone about it?
    Same thing here, the tool ECS provided with this kit did not work. So, I just had well nuts welded in. And I'm not the only one who ran into the same issue.
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    Would some structural epoxy work instead of drilling the underbody?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Wrong View Post
    Same thing here, the tool ECS provided with this kit did not work. So, I just had well nuts welded in. And I'm not the only one who ran into the same issue.
    Thanks. I thought I was going crazy. I knew how they are supposed to work, I just for the life of me could thing see how that "tool" was going to make it work.

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    I seem to recall having to be careful not to round out the hole when drilling. The tool kinda sucks but it does work. Just be careful to not let the bit spin once you've drilled through.
    Back out the bit by hand.

    The insert needs to be tight in the hole so you can crank down on the tool without the insert spinning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwgtivr6 View Post
    I seem to recall having to be careful not to round out the hole when drilling. The tool kinda sucks but it does work. Just be careful to not let the bit spin once you've drilled through.
    Back out the bit by hand.

    The insert needs to be tight in the hole so you can crank down on the tool without the insert spinning.
    I already ran into that issue as well and the holes being slightly off. I'm just going to have the holes welded up, re-drilled and welded in.

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    10 x 1.5 is the hardware my kit came with. Reinstalling my kit on my new car so ordered some replacement rivet nuts from McMaster-Carr.
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