2 Much oil

[Vince Stark]

My mechanic put too much oil into the engine. Half of inch above the max level. What could hapnd.

[jayiszraw]

airation of the oil

[Vince Stark]

airation of the oil

what??

[CrtchRktRcr]

he means the oil could get air bubbles and in turn the oil pickup could just grab air instead of oil and could starve your cylinders of precious oil. ka bam.

[Vince Stark]

how can i get the level to normal

[Certified MD]

Really? Let some out of the drain plug dude.

[pkny]

Call audi, get official documents maybe bring it to the audi dealership for a scan.
Make dealer pay for any repairs because i think the catalyst converter might have been damaged.

[jmw241]

Call audi, get official documents maybe bring it to the audi dealership for a scan.
Make dealer pay for any repairs because i think the catalyst converter might have been damaged.

lol?

[CrtchRktRcr]

lol?

hahaha. Exactly

[Haenszel20v]

google "oil drain plug".

Thank you.

[PDX04a4]

Call audi, get official documents maybe bring it to the audi dealership for a scan.
Make dealer pay for any repairs because i think the catalyst converter might have been damaged.

haha, wow.

[nycion]

I agree with the damage to the catalytic convertor, but not the "airation" thing. In addition, how many fo you have checked the oil level after having it serviced by Audi?

When Audi did the oil change for me, they filled it a little over the max sign. If you go by the manual, it says the level should be half way between the min and max marks (and I happen to agree with that).

[chris23]

With the car off remove the oil filter & drain some out and refit, check oil and adjust to proper level. No, all of the oil in the pan will not come out. Having too much "could" lead to seals/gaskets leaking.

[lyleswk]

due to too excessive oil pressure...

[jackyaudi]

You could also but a $20 little manual pump and insert it in the dipstick and suck in some oil if u dont want to do the drain plug thing. They usually come with a hose that fits the dipstick. Some people use this to change their oil (other cars)

[TDIaholic]

The reason why Audi and other manufacturers recommend against overfilling is to protect the catalytic converter. With too much oil in the engine you're risking blow-by and / order excessive oil getting into the breather system and getting into the cylinders. Burning oil in the cylinder can damage your cat converter.

However, it's not like you can say goodbye to your cat the second you start the car with too much oil in the engine. It will take quite a while to actually do any damage, so just drain an excess through the drain plug.

[Farmerjohn]

Wow, you guys are quick to destroy someone!

Now to see how he recovers from the flames of the cyber bullies.

[Dan1969]

Well, time to look for another mechanic then, or here's a pointer: DO THE OIL CHANGE YOURSELF...

[Vince Stark]

Wow, you guys are quick to destroy someone!

Now to see how he recovers from the flames of the cyber bullies.

LoL i dont need to recover lol no more rep hahha
the mechanic is good, first mistake is always forgiven.
i dont have a catalyc converter, so thres no worries there. the only thing i was concerned about is the turbo, cause i heard someone say that too much oil can destroy it..
i really have no time to do an oil change myself, i go to school, and then i work. If i have some time off its usually during night time, and i dont have a garage.
thank u for telling me about the drain plug, i really didnt know about it !!
Thanks for ur input guys!!!

[nycion]

Remove the oil filter and drain it. If it's still high, you run the engine for a minute or so and then remove and drain the oil filter again...With the oil drain plug it's more work, it's messy and might loose too much oil. Let us know how it went!

[SpacemanSpiff]

i dont have a catalyc converter, so thres no worries there.

Yea, but the catalytic getting ruined is a byproduct of the real problem, blow-by and other assorted nastiness.

thank u for telling me about the drain plug, i really didnt know about it !!

You asked how to get the level down, what were you expecting, some kind of excess oil release valve somewhere?

[SpacemanSpiff]

Remove the oil filter and drain it. If it's still high, you run the engine for a minute or so and then remove and drain the oil filter again...With the oil drain plug it's more work, it's messy and might loose too much oil. Let us know how it went!

You must have a different method to take the oil filter off if pulling the drain plug out is more messy. Removing the oil filter is a horrific mess, pissing oil all over the subframe and everything...

[Vince Stark]

You asked how to get the level down, what were you expecting, some kind of excess oil release valve somewhere?

I was being sarcastic btw lol
nycion, dude way too messy.. thanks though

[old guy]

I agree with the damage to the catalytic convertor, but not the "airation" thing. In addition, how many fo you have checked the oil level after having it serviced by Audi?

The "aeration" thing occurs when the oil level is high enough for the crankshaft to hit it while it is spinning around. What happens is that the oil is whipped into a froth and the oil pump begins to suck foam instead of oil. It can quickly destroy a motor.

due to too excessive oil pressure...

Excess oil will not cause excess oil pressure. The oil pick up tube really doesn't care how high the oil level is as long as it can suck up oil. the real danger is as outlined above.

[Vince Stark]

The "aeration" thing occurs when the oil level is high enough for the crankshaft to hit it while it is spinning around. What happens is that the oil is whipped into a froth and the oil pump begins to suck foam instead of oil. It can quickly destroy a motor.



Excess oil will not cause excess oil pressure. The oil pick up tube really doesn't care how high the oil level is as long as it can suck up oil. the real danger is as outlined above.

Thank you Old Guy

[diagnosticator]

My mechanic put too much oil into the engine. Half of inch above the max level. What could hapnd.

I can flood the cat with too much oil and ruin the cat. If it gets air whipped, the lubrication can fail.

[Vince Stark]

I can flood the cat with too much oil and ruin the cat. If it gets air whipped, the lubrication can fail.

Thanks for info
btw i drained the oil earlier today, but i did drive for about 10 miles, but i kept it under 2k rpm and no boost..

[diagnosticator]

You should be OK then,

[pOrKcHoP07]

If you stayed out of VTEC you'll be alright man!

[nycion]

I was being sarcastic btw lol
nycion, dude way too messy.. thanks though

I have a little rectangular plastic container (4" X 6" X 2") that I place underneath the oil filter so NO MESS. I don't need to get under the car - all I do is move the coolant reservoir out of the way (2 philips screws).

[Vince Stark]

where in ny r u man

[Certified MD]

This thread is dead, I know, but serious question here:

Why would some of you guys recommend to take the oil FILTER off to let the oil out in this situation???

As somebody already stated, it's the most messy way of letting oil out. It's simple, unscrew the drain plug at the very bottom of the pan. How is that not the most logical method? (if you have ever changed the oil yourself, that is).

[lyleswk]

[QUOTE=old guy;5082491]The "aeration" thing occurs when the oil level is high enough for the crankshaft to hit it while it is spinning around. What happens is that the oil is whipped into a froth and the oil pump begins to suck foam instead of oil. It can quickly destroy a motor.

I just had an ahah moment. thanks.

[lyleswk]

I have a little rectangular plastic container (4" X 6" X 2") that I place underneath the oil filter so NO MESS. I don't need to get under the car - all I do is move the coolant reservoir out of the way (2 philips screws).

And, thanks helping my brain with what should have been obvious. I make a cardboard trough for my wife's Benz for the same reason. After I changed the oil in my A4 the first time making a huge mess of things, I tried to make a trough, but it didn't work very well. Next time, I will try your method.

[Vince Stark]

cell flashing alot of smoke comn out blown coil pack???

[pkny]

Originally Posted by pkny
Call audi, get official documents maybe bring it to the audi dealership for a scan.
Make dealer pay for any repairs because i think the catalyst converter might have been damaged.
haha, wow. haha, wow.

What is so funny and wow about this?

It is always good to get official documents from the original manufacture and file them away for the next couple of months if things turn south because of over filling the oil. What i learned in life is that anything can happen.
If something happens it is always good to act fast and have the necessary files on hand. All i know is that the cat works at very high temperature and that is one of the reason why rare metals like Pt and Rh are used. Motor oil in the catalytic converter will increase the operating temperature and degrade the metals in the cat.
The last owner did not document his wheel bearing or control arm changed and there was no records in what materials the the mechanic used to secure the pinchbolt or if he even did it. All i know is that they used a bolt that galvanized the pinch bolt and i need new control arms and a wheel bear assembly. Not cheap considering it should of been an easy fix.

Maybe i said something ignorant that i am not aware of?

[nycion]

where in ny r u man

Why are you asking - would you like to attend one of my classes for a clean oil filter removal?

[Vince Stark]

Why are you asking - would you like to attend one of my classes for a clean oil filter removal?

im asking cause of this http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...d-airport-meet) u should come through...

[Vince Stark]

so i changed all 4 coils , still have blue smoke comn out.
turbo going bye bye or still burning the antifreeze from the coolant flange??

[nycion]

OMG - that's the longest thread I've seen (34 pages). When is the next meet?