at the track.. again. .

[bigern45]

so fellers.. went to the track tonight.. finally after getting a new transmission installed in my car.. and getting a fine tune done at EPL.. and.. well. many of you know that my car is having a sensor failure of sometype.. so running probably 90-92% right now.. fixed all the boost leaks i could find.. still not getting the 25psi i was getting a while ago..running about 22 psi peak and super rich..... so.. after about 10 runs in the quarter and launching my car like MY VAGINA was raw.. i finally got a few good launches... and after heat soak and beating the hell outta my car all night.. as usual .. the best run of the night for me was a 12.31@ 118.5 mph.. it sucks that my best runs always come later than the first 2 or 3.. which im guessing would drop my times by about .2 sec or so. .. and if my car was boosting properly, i woulda shaved even more off my et.. woulda been mid 11's or so.. anyhow.. ill post some videos later.. and then.. ill have some better times to compare it to later in the year.. after i fix the problems and such and stop being such a pussy when im dropping my clutch @ 4000 rpm's... and .. oh yeah.. btw.. have a few logs to post of the ride home.. just to show you the issues i was facing all night and still ran a 12.3.... well .. thats pretty damn good in my eyes....ill put them up later.. im tired.. just watched UK stomp the hell outta wake forest...

[Haterade]

nice run, but does anybody ever go to the track and not have excuses on why they ran a slower time, or all B5's having issues?

[nkbks4]

if u just had a fine tune done, why r u running rich???

[bigern45]

nice run, but does anybody ever go to the track and not have excuses on why they ran a slower time, or all B5's having issues?

i have goals to be met.. so when i go to the track, and see improvements in my runs even after hot lapping, obviously im doing something wrong in the way im driving. and if my car was running up to par, as it should be and will be soon, would it not be proper to assume that maybe ill gain a few tenths in my runs? had i run super fast or a lot better than i thought i would, i would have tried to figure out what i did there as well to cause me to run so good.

i think this and all forums will do the best for its users when people get on here with their trial and errors and experiences and be straight up honest with what they did. i could have bull shitted and said i ran really good but the track conditions were poor , or blame it on something else .. i didnt drive well, and my car is not running properly and i ran mid to low 12's all night. take it for what you want...

[Matt Danger]

what were your 60's

[bigern45]

if u just had a fine tune done, why r u running rich???

look at these posts. its nothing wrong with the tune, my car was tuned over a month ago, was running excellent.. then about two weeks ago started noticing some issues.. read these..

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...rbo-in-our-car

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-my-boost-logs

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ssues-continue...

so hopefully ill get this issue resolved and be running 100%.. then back to the track to try to do better!!

[bigern45]

what were your 60's

on my bad runs 2.0 or worse.. on my 3 best runs

1.869-** 12.569 @ 118.146
1.779-** 12.363 @ 115.375
1.821-** 12.318 @ 118.500

[spinall4]

mods?

[bigern45]

oem RS6's , jhm rebuilt trans, 3" dp's to a 4' single, devils own meth kit, EPL fueling..

[NOTORIOUS VR]

^^^ Are you at altitude? or on a weak tune?

MPH seems pretty slow for RS6's... I would think low 120's is where you should be at with a strong setup.

[BlkdoutS4]

oem RS6's , jhm rebuilt trans, 3" dp's to a 4' single, devils own meth kit, EPL fueling..

stock ICs?

[Haterade]

i have goals to be met.. so when i go to the track, and see improvements in my runs even after hot lapping, obviously im doing something wrong in the way im driving. and if my car was running up to par, as it should be and will be soon, would it not be proper to assume that maybe ill gain a few tenths in my runs? had i run super fast or a lot better than i thought i would, i would have tried to figure out what i did there as well to cause me to run so good.

i think this and all forums will do the best for its users when people get on here with their trial and errors and experiences and be straight up honest with what they did. i could have bull shitted and said i ran really good but the track conditions were poor , or blame it on something else .. i didnt drive well, and my car is not running properly and i ran mid to low 12's all night. take it for what you want...

Listen i get what your saying, i guess what im trying to say is i have seen so many of these posts, Went to the track and i ran xxx but i could have ran xxx.
???
You ran what you ran, so what leave it at that. You want to validate your run so be it, post it on the forum. But being honest, your post and many others are just excuses on why your run was bad, Then i just realized your running meth and RS6? so definitely time is slow. But nonetheless a good run for mid to low 12s.
I my self own a b5 s4 and it has never really been driven since it has been bought because of constant repairs and mods.

[Das General]

Your trap speed is incredibly low. Trap speed is a good indication of power, and ET is a good indication of your ability to drive. You should be trapping 125+ regardless of how bad of a driver you may be. We have K04 cars here running pump files and trapping as high as 124. Your tune needs work.

[bigern45]

yeah.. like i said.. my boost is fluctuating around 21 psi, as i wanted to go anyhow to see the difference my tranny no longer being an issue would cause poor shifts.. im gonna get some help to figure out why my boost is acting so odd. ive been running 25 psi as long as ive had the stage 3 tune, it just started acting up about 2 weeks ago.

so.. when i fix my poor boost issue i will have better times.. and hatorade.. fitting name. .its not my fault you have a B5 S4 that you barely drive. dont troll and latch on to a post and complain. this is not a post to explain why i ran poor. everyone on here knew i was itching to go to the track again. i went even though i was advised not to with my car running improperly. so yeah. i was hoping for low 12's high 11's.. which i got. if my boost leak was fixed.. i would have ran better.. cheers

[bigern45]

here are some vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ4OYf0w890

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMaEPy8nqms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlmJRPkPsE8

[NOTORIOUS VR]

Listen i get what your saying, i guess what im trying to say is i have seen so many of these posts, Went to the track and i ran xxx but i could have ran xxx.
???
You ran what you ran, so what leave it at that. You want to validate your run so be it, post it on the forum. But being honest, your post and many others are just excuses on why your run was bad, Then i just realized your running meth and RS6? so definitely time is slow. But nonetheless a good run for mid to low 12s.
I my self own a b5 s4 and it has never really been driven since it has been bought because of constant repairs and mods.

Because sometimes you go just for the hell of it to see what's up... I'd done it, who cares... At least he's out enjoying his car.

[Haterade]

yeah.. like i said.. my boost is fluctuating around 21 psi, as i wanted to go anyhow to see the difference my tranny no longer being an issue would cause poor shifts.. im gonna get some help to figure out why my boost is acting so odd. ive been running 25 psi as long as ive had the stage 3 tune, it just started acting up about 2 weeks ago.

so.. when i fix my poor boost issue i will have better times.. and hatorade.. fitting name. .its not my fault you have a B5 S4 that you barely drive. dont troll and latch on to a post and complain. this is not a post to explain why i ran poor. everyone on here knew i was itching to go to the track again. i went even though i was advised not to with my car running improperly. so yeah. i was hoping for low 12's high 11's.. which i got. if my boost leak was fixed.. i would have ran better.. cheers

I am not trolling if you dont like the feedback then dont bother posting on the internet. Since you got all you feathers in a ruffle, then let me say this.
You post a horrible time then come back with excuses, whats the point of telling anyone if you are going to get upset?
Internet validation that you are a either a bad driver, shitty tune or bad car? Or maybe all of the above?

Either way enjoy your car, i woud be a little upset though after spending on that dough and coming to the internet to tell people you ran 12s, big fuckin woop, you and everyone else is running 12s.

[Haterade]

Because sometimes you go just for the hell of it to see what's up... I'd done it, who cares... At least he's out enjoying his car.

Well then enjoy the car, go to the track and see what you ran.
Dont come posting about a time then get upset because he ran what a stage 2 ran, when someone calls him on it.

Anyway, his post was for one reason only validation, and he got it.
I am now officially validating s post about running 12s with "oem RS6's , jhm rebuilt trans, 3" dp's to a 4' single, devils own meth kit, EPL fueling"

I also had sometime think about his original post.
From everyones post about going to the track i can only remember Jay from JHM, not having an excuse later saying he fuked up somewhere or something else.
Run what you brought and thats it. No one gives a shit or wants to hear whining on why it was not working properly. Otherwise dont post about it

[Haterade]

yeah.. like i said.. my boost is fluctuating around 21 psi, as i wanted to go anyhow to see the difference my tranny no longer being an issue would cause poor shifts.. im gonna get some help to figure out why my boost is acting so odd. ive been running 25 psi as long as ive had the stage 3 tune, it just started acting up about 2 weeks ago.

so.. when i fix my poor boost issue i will have better times.. and hatorade.. fitting name. .its not my fault you have a B5 S4 that you barely drive. dont troll and latch on to a post and complain. this is not a post to explain why i ran poor. everyone on here knew i was itching to go to the track again. i went even though i was advised not to with my car running improperly. so yeah. i was hoping for low 12's high 11's.. which i got. if my boost leak was fixed.. i would have ran better.. cheers

I missed that part about me complaining, I didnt complain about my car. I just said it was always being worked on. And i never said it was your fault.
Point again is this you get clap from me for running 12s with your set up. Great job!

"would" have ran better is the magic word. I "would" have won the lottery, but i didnt.

[espo4442]

I am not trolling if you dont like the feedback then dont bother posting on the internet. Since you got all you feathers in a ruffle, then let me say this.
You post a horrible time then come back with excuses, whats the point of telling anyone if you are going to get upset?
Internet validation that you are a either a bad driver, shitty tune or bad car? Or maybe all of the above?

Either way enjoy your car, i woud be a little upset though after spending on that dough and coming to the internet to tell people you ran 12s, big fuckin woop, you and everyone else is running 12s.

Dude breathe easy, why are you taking his entire post so personal. By telling him he's wasting his time posting this on the internet is like me telling you if you don't like it don't read it. The guys just letting people know how his car has progressed, get off his nuts.

[GarbatyA4]

so fellers.. went to the track tonight.. finally after getting a new transmission installed in my car.. and getting a fine tune done at EPL.. and.. well. many of you know that my car is having a sensor failure of sometype.. so running probably 90-92% right now.. fixed all the boost leaks i could find.. still not getting the 25psi i was getting a while ago..running about 22 psi peak and super rich..... so.. after about 10 runs in the quarter and launching my car like MY VAGINA was raw.. i finally got a few good launches... and after heat soak and beating the hell outta my car all night.. as usual .. the best run of the night for me was a 12.31@ 118.5 mph.. it sucks that my best runs always come later than the first 2 or 3.. which im guessing would drop my times by about .2 sec or so. .. and if my car was boosting properly, i woulda shaved even more off my et.. woulda been mid 11's or so.. anyhow.. ill post some videos later.. and then.. ill have some better times to compare it to later in the year.. after i fix the problems and such and stop being such a pussy when im dropping my clutch @ 4000 rpm's... and .. oh yeah.. btw.. have a few logs to post of the ride home.. just to show you the issues i was facing all night and still ran a 12.3.... well .. thats pretty damn good in my eyes....ill put them up later.. im tired.. just watched UK stomp the hell outta wake forest...

Vids... where?

[bigern45]

you're are a fucking douche.. thats the whole point of forums, to get on here and talk about experiences and to help each other get better at what we all like to do... if youve got nothing but negativity to put on here.. i suggest you to shut the fuck up and do something that you think is more valuable with your time. three goddamned posts in a row stirring up negativity. and im not pissed, a little unsatisfied, hence my desire to locate my issue and fix my problem and get better. thats what this is about.. and so yeah ... i posted it..

and what the fuck are you doing research on me now just so you can find something to put me down with?? go get a fucking life

[bigern45]

Vids... where?

post number 15

[NOTORIOUS VR]

Dude breathe easy, why are you taking his entire post so personal. By telling him he's wasting his time posting this on the internet is like me telling you if you don't like it don't read it. The guys just letting people know how his car has progressed, get off his nuts.

He's clearly just here to argue about nonsense... guess it makes him feel better about himself or something

[DanS4]

Nice runs. MBC ?

Waiting for maple grove to open up.

[bigern45]

Nice runs. MBC ?

Waiting for maple grove to open up.

are you suggesting it?? or you asking if thats what i have.. and no.. boost is controlled with n75 valve, i almost wonder if this issue is too hard to locate if i should just run one..

[Haterade]

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Dude breathe easy, why are you taking his entire post so personal. By telling him he's wasting his time posting this on the internet is like me telling you if you don't like it don't read it. The guys just letting people know how his car has progressed, get off his nuts.

Wow, you read my post all wrong, what I said is if you can't handle criticism then don't bother posting, makes sense no?

[Haterade]

you're are a fucking douche.. thats the whole point of forums, to get on here and talk about experiences and to help each other get better at what we all like to do... if youve got nothing but negativity to put on here.. i suggest you to shut the fuck up and do something that you think is more valuable with your time. three goddamned posts in a row stirring up negativity. and im not pissed, a little unsatisfied, hence my desire to locate my issue and fix my problem and get better. thats what this is about.. and so yeah ... i posted it..

and what the fuck are you doing research on me now just so you can find something to put me down with?? go get a fucking life

How the Fuck are you helping anyone out with your post then? Wow you ran Fukin 12s, when stock ko3s could have done that.
Then you get your panties in a bunch and get nasty.
Fuck you, don't get upset at me for a shitty run after spending all that money. As I said shitty car or driver. If its the ladder then you shouldn't be driving. You are also definetly giving epl a bad name. All those mods and just 12s?

Before this got out of hand I was simply implying that it seems that people whine about their performance after a bad run, then get upset when criticized about the time.
So relax your panties, you ran a shitty time so what?
No big deal, at least you went to the track, most people don't even make it.

[DanS4]

are you suggesting it?? or you asking if thats what i have.. and no.. boost is controlled with n75 valve, i almost wonder if this issue is too hard to locate if i should just run one..

I was asking if you were running one. I would try that out and see if it controls your boost.(run in parallel) Boost should be controlled by tune. No leaks so it should be good. Any codes? O2s good ; EGTS ?

[bigern45]

nope.. just one day started running less boost. so then i pressure tested, fixed like 6 minor leaks, pinholes if that.. now pressure test up to 21-21psi.. still boost issues.. brand new n75 valve.. clamp off the n75 to wastegate actuators and boost goes super high.. so it is a sensor or something that is showing off to make the ecu limit my boost.. i thought maybe an air charge sensor?? took it off, cleaned it.. nothing different.. MAF?? its a brand new hitachi.. i guess it could be dirty, but how would a MAF cause a boost issue? if anything, youd think it would show lean or rich condition. cant think of any other sensors or solenoids that would cause these issues. oh well..

[NOTORIOUS VR]

^^ I wonder if maybe it's an EGT issue? Have you logged them and made sure they're behaving?

[bigern45]

well i logged on the way home from the track. when EGT's go bad, then the car runs in limp mode, and it hasnt run in limp mode but one time, that was when i was coming home from the track. are you suggesting that the EGT's are showing bad at all times? and so my boost/timing is adjusted accordingly? when its in limp mode, the car will boost to 10 psi. the other day i jumped on vagcom and the egt's showed fine, no glitches, and the boost issue was still apparent.. so im not sure, i dont think so, but who knows. ive sent some logs in, well see what the verdict is and see where to start looking..

[bigern45]

How the Fuck are you helping anyone out with your post then? Wow you ran Fukin 12s, when stock ko3s could have done that.
Then you get your panties in a bunch and get nasty.
Fuck you, don't get upset at me for a shitty run after spending all that money. As I said shitty car or driver. If its the ladder then you shouldn't be driving. You are also definetly giving epl a bad name. All those mods and just 12s?

Before this got out of hand I was simply implying that it seems that people whine about their performance after a bad run, then get upset when criticized about the time.
So relax your panties, you ran a shitty time so what?
No big deal, at least you went to the track, most people don't even make it.

the most confusing post ive ever read. after all that ranting at me pissed, and then you say no big deal, many people dont go to the track anyways? and how do i give epl a bad name? MY CAR IS NOT RUNNING PROPERLY YOU IDIOT. people have taken rides in my car after EPL tuned it and were utterly shocked and its performance. just because i have a bad sensor or something causing my car not to boost properly at this moment and the best i can run is a 12.3, that doesnt give any one a bad name. i was never whining. just stating what i did at the track and what i was hoping for and that i didnt make it.. i cant believe im still arguing with you..

[GarbatyA4]

take it easy. 12.3 is fast. I wish I had a 12-11 second capable DD car.

Once you figure out your issue, add a bit of race gas and go for 11's.

Nice runs and nice car.

Cheers.

ps. I'll be doing the same set up as you but VAST tuned and FMIC.

[Haterade]

the most confusing post ive ever read. after all that ranting at me pissed, and then you say no big deal, many people dont go to the track anyways? and how do i give epl a bad name? MY CAR IS NOT RUNNING PROPERLY YOU IDIOT. people have taken rides in my car after EPL tuned it and were utterly shocked and its performance. just because i have a bad sensor or something causing my car not to boost properly at this moment and the best i can run is a 12.3, that doesnt give any one a bad name. i was never whining. just stating what i did at the track and what i was hoping for and that i didnt make it.. i cant believe im still arguing with you..

Now your juts being a fuken idiot. You sound like your whining. drop it, you moron.

[99ebpsi24]

Now your juts being a fuken idiot. You sound like your whining. drop it, you moron.

Seriously dude I'm getting so sick of seeing your post in here and it's not even my thread. It's like you can't drop it, be done with it and let the man get the feedback and help fixing the issues at hand. If you don't have anything that would help him with his issue or a positive comment about the build/times ect. get off the thread.

Back on topic, I haven't checked your last thread about the pin-hole in the turbo itself...I'm guessing that is ruled out if you're thinking EGTs now?

[koolkoreanked]

Sweet runs dude! I too ran this weekend but couldn't hook for shit. I was doing 12.6s but with 2.0 60 foots. The few times I got a decent 1.8 60 ft my car was heat soaked and ran the same 12.6 but at 114 mph. I feel your pains tho. My car won't hold 25 psi either. I'm getting ready to redo all the clamps and see if that helps. Let me know if you fix the problem. I sure need help with mine.

[NOTORIOUS VR]

well i logged on the way home from the track. when EGT's go bad, then the car runs in limp mode, and it hasnt run in limp mode but one time, that was when i was coming home from the track. are you suggesting that the EGT's are showing bad at all times? and so my boost/timing is adjusted accordingly? when its in limp mode, the car will boost to 10 psi. the other day i jumped on vagcom and the egt's showed fine, no glitches, and the boost issue was still apparent.. so im not sure, i dont think so, but who knows. ive sent some logs in, well see what the verdict is and see where to start looking..

Bad/failing EGT's won't always throw your car into limp nor will it always throw a CEL. If they're reading off it's just going start to dump more fuel then is required... too much fuel = less power... it also will dial back boost @ higher EGT's.

Just something to keep in mind if you don't find a boost leak. Especially since you said the car used to run more boost.

Also what plugs/gap are you running?

[bigern45]

when my egt's glitched before, it definitely went into limp mode. 10 psi was all the boost allowed. and yes, black smoke out the tail pipe due to fuel being dumped and timing retarded, to try and cool things down a bit.. i havent seen an EGT biased too hot, the only ones i have seen glitched to all the way hot.

after talking with tony today, he went over my logs and the wastegate duty cycle operation that i left there with when he tuned my car is identical to the logs that i sent him over the weekend. if ive checked/repaired all my boost leaks(which im pretty sure i have) and the wastegate solenoid is operating properly, then the only other thing that could be an issue is a mechanical failure with one of the turbo's wastegates. so tomorrow im going to make sure that both of my wastegate actuators are operating properly and one is not binding up, keeping one of the wastegates partially open. this.. would kill my boost. so im crossing fingers guys... ill let everyone know..

way to go on the runs, i know it wasnt what you were hoping for but 12.6 is still fast. and yeah.. 60' times are the key to a good et for sure..

[NOTORIOUS VR]

when my egt's glitched before, it definitely went into limp mode. 10 psi was all the boost allowed. and yes, black smoke out the tail pipe due to fuel being dumped and timing retarded, to try and cool things down a bit.. i havent seen an EGT biased too hot, the only ones i have seen glitched to all the way hot.

after talking with tony today, he went over my logs and the wastegate duty cycle operation that i left there with when he tuned my car is identical to the logs that i sent him over the weekend. if ive checked/repaired all my boost leaks(which im pretty sure i have) and the wastegate solenoid is operating properly, then the only other thing that could be an issue is a mechanical failure with one of the turbo's wastegates. so tomorrow im going to make sure that both of my wastegate actuators are operating properly and one is not binding up, keeping one of the wastegates partially open. this.. would kill my boost. so im crossing fingers guys... ill let everyone know..

way to go on the runs, i know it wasnt what you were hoping for but 12.6 is still fast. and yeah.. 60' times are the key to a good et for sure..

No doubt 12.6 is fast, just get your issue sorted and then you'll be where you're supposed to be with that setup :)

as for 60' yea, my 12.8 runs were all 1.9's... I have a feeling though now it wasn't just the shitty track prep (or complete lack there of) it was also my OE clutch cursing @ me... because earlier that year I was hooking 1.7's but that was with about 50 less whp and 30 less wtq.