2011 Audi S5 engine

[hbk695]

Hi,
I've been following this forum for a while, and spotted several threads about the my11 S5. However, there is still no concrete information. The only thing that seems to be said is "word on the street is the my11 S5 is keeping the V8". Does anyone have any concrete sources about this topic besides the caranddriver article and the other sites that reported months ago that the "2011 S5 might keep the v8". I also know about an interview with a regional manager or something from Germany that was translated from German that said Audi would still offer the V8 for customers that demand it, however there was no indication that the 2011 S5 would not offer the V6t. Basically, I am very interested in the S5 and must purchase a car by this summer. I'm currently holding off, hoping that they put the 3.0t into the S5 coupe. I live in New York and would have to commute everyday, so a V8 would not be a wise decision for me. I also don't like convertibles and know they currently offer the engine in the cabrio. If anybody has any new information I'd gladly appreciate it. I'm going to need a car by July, so if i know for a fact they are not going to offer the 3.0t, as much as i love this car, I'd probably have to look for something else. Performance is also important to me so please dont suggest the A5. Thanks in advance for your contributions.

[vortexjunkie]

i put a call in to a friend at headquaters to find out the def. answer for you.... he will tell me

[swoardrider]

A friend of mine is in sales at an Audi dealership. I asked him about it on Friday, and he said 2011 S5 coupe will keep the V8 because of some sort of marketing BS. Audi thinks it can compete better with the M3 having a V8. What they really need to do is import the RS5 to compete against the M3 and put the V6T in the S5 and drop the price to compete against the 335i.

[switchface]

Hi,
I've been following this forum for a while, and spotted several threads about the my11 S5. However, there is still no concrete information. The only thing that seems to be said is "word on the street is the my11 S5 is keeping the V8". Does anyone have any concrete sources about this topic besides the caranddriver article and the other sites that reported months ago that the "2011 S5 might keep the v8". I also know about an interview with a regional manager or something from Germany that was translated from German that said Audi would still offer the V8 for customers that demand it, however there was no indication that the 2011 S5 would not offer the V6t. Basically, I am very interested in the S5 and must purchase a car by this summer. I'm currently holding off, hoping that they put the 3.0t into the S5 coupe. I live in New York and would have to commute everyday, so a V8 would not be a wise decision for me. I also don't like convertibles and know they currently offer the engine in the cabrio. If anybody has any new information I'd gladly appreciate it. I'm going to need a car by July, so if i know for a fact they are not going to offer the 3.0t, as much as i love this car, I'd probably have to look for something else. Performance is also important to me so please dont suggest the A5. Thanks in advance for your contributions.

Exact same thing for me...keep me posted on what you find. I too am looking for concrete evidence, rather than speculation.

[geoff2005]

A friend of mine is in sales at an Audi dealership. I asked him about it on Friday, and he said 2011 S5 coupe will keep the V8 because of some sort of marketing BS. Audi thinks it can compete better with the M3 having a V8. What they really need to do is import the RS5 to compete against the M3 and put the V6T in the S5 and drop the price to compete against the 335i.

seriously, they need a new marketing department

[GSS5]

A friend of mine is in sales at an Audi dealership. I asked him about it on Friday, and he said 2011 S5 coupe will keep the V8 because of some sort of marketing BS. Audi thinks it can compete better with the M3 having a V8. What they really need to do is import the RS5 to compete against the M3 and put the V6T in the S5 and drop the price to compete against the 335i.

The only place where the S5 loses to an M3 is on the track. I was looking between an M3 and an S5 and evidently picking the S5 turned out to be a no-brainer. It's a much better all-round car with AWD at a significantly lower price. BMWs are 'driver's cars', Audis are practical. I'm not much of a track person so that's my opinion.

[HobbesA5]

I'm going to need a car by July

Just keep in mind that a 2011 might not show up until August. I don't know how flexible your need-by date is.

[hbk695]

i put a call in to a friend at headquaters to find out the def. answer for you.... he will tell me

Thanks, I'd really appreciate it.

[hot2trots4]

That is great that they are keeping the V8. I love how the Audi V8 sounds. Nothing like it.

[hbk695]

That is great that they are keeping the V8. I love how the Audi V8 sounds. Nothing like it.

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I agree the V8 does sound great. But in this day and age it makes absolutely no sense to still offer this engine for the 2011 lineup. The S4, S5 Cabrio, S5 Sportback all currently offer the supercharged 3.0 engine that produces almost as much output as the V8, is lighter and far more fuel efficient. If Audi does end up keeping the V8 i just hope they offer it with the new 7-speed S-tronic instead of the terribly old and slow tip-tronic for people like me that live in the city and prefer an automatic. I've been an Audi fan for a while now, but if they announce that they're not making any changes and still offering the gas guzzling V8 along with the old tiptronic transmission, I'm jumping off the bandwagon. I did however find an intersting article on AutoBlog which said that the new V8 R8 will be offered with the S-tronic, so hopefully thats a good sign for the S5. Here's the link: http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/09/r...h-gearbox-com/

[Lugnuts]

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The S4, S5 Cabrio, S5 Sportback all currently offer the supercharged 3.0 engine that produces almost as much output as the V8, is lighter and far more fuel efficient.

I'm not so sure about this statement. There have been more than a few people that have commented that the V6T is not as fuel efficient as previously reported on paper. I can't find the posts right now, but I seem to recall real-world mileage somewhat similar to the V8. (When not driving like a granny of course)

[Greeney]

I'm not so sure about this statement. There have been more than a few people that have commented that the V6T is not as fuel efficient as previously reported on paper. I can't find the posts right now, but I seem to recall real-world mileage somewhat similar to the V8. (When not driving like a granny of course)

We own an S5 Cab now with the V6T, to say the least the mileage is disappointing. Wish they kept the V8.

[Lugnuts]

We own an S5 Cab now with the V6T, to say the least the mileage is disappointing. Wish they kept the V8.

I'm assuming it's because the supercharged engine is generally running in the higher RPMs.
How is it in comparison to your S5 coupe?

[sillyboy]

For 2grand in mods that 3.0 S/C will absolutely embarrass your V8. The only advantage the V8 has is the sound....There are a few vids out there of the MTM S/C S4 walking the M3 from a roll up to 125mph or so, then the M catches it(RWD advantage there). That is with only chip and exhaust.....
The new RS5 still will not compete with the M3 on a track, and maybe, maybe it will be an even run in the 1/4 mile......Still, it is a great looking car, but a bi-turbo V8 would have been great.......wait till you see what BMW has in store for the next gen M5 and M3........


If you drive either of these cars to the red-line....they'll both get crap mpg......

[Elberoth]

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The S4, S5 Cabrio, S5 Sportback all currently offer the supercharged 3.0 engine that produces almost as much output as the V8, is lighter and far more fuel efficient.

It is only 6kg lighter, which hardly makes any difference.

[vshin]

For aesthetic reasons I would usually recommend the V8. However, I have commuted to mid-town manhattan for a year in a manual and got real tired of constant stop-and-go traffic. I'd recommend the 3.0T not just for the engine, but also for the s-tronic transmission that will come with it. Unfortunately, you probably won't see this configuration until the 2012 refresh .

Since you need to buy this summer, I'd get the S5 and live with the lack of fuel efficiency. In terms of performance, the V8 is still superior.

[RXBG]

For 2grand in mods that 3.0 S/C will absolutely embarrass your V8. The only advantage the V8 has is the sound....There are a few vids out there of the MTM S/C S4 walking the M3 from a roll up to 125mph or so, then the M catches it(RWD advantage there). That is with only chip and exhaust.....
The new RS5 still will not compete with the M3 on a track, and maybe, maybe it will be an even run in the 1/4 mile......Still, it is a great looking car, but a bi-turbo V8 would have been great.......wait till you see what BMW has in store for the next gen M5 and M3........


If you drive either of these cars to the red-line....they'll both get crap mpg......

the RS5 is faster around the ring than the M3 by about 4 seconds. and will be faster than the M3 in acceleration. numbers will be forthcoming and independently confirmed by car mags in a couple of months. the RS5 owns the M3.

[SupraBlur]

the RS5 is faster around the ring than the M3 by about 4 seconds. and will be faster than the M3 in acceleration. numbers will be forthcoming and independently confirmed by car mags in a couple of months. the RS5 owns the M3.

Where did you get this data? The recorded time for the E92 M3 is 8:05, and the V8 R8 is 8:03 (dead even with a 997.1 GT3). Unless the RS5 is 3100 lbs, I call shenanigans.

[switchface]

Hate to sound like a broken record if I've been repeating this in a few threads, but how can you plop down $60k knowing they haven't really addressed the carbon build up issue?

Are you:

1. accepting it and will address/clean it when necessary?
2. naive to it?
3. have a solution planned?

I'm not trying to harp on the negative or knock anyone's purchase, I'm vocalizing this concern because I want to buy an S5 and this is really the only thing holding me back at this point.

[vshin]

If you won't buy cars because of carbon buildup, then you're basically not buying -any- car with direct injection. This is an industry-wide issue across many brands, not just Audis. Until they find a way to address this issue without violating emission regulations, the best solution is to perform "Italian tune-ups" every 3-5k miles to burn off the bigger deposits. This is the reason why engineers say DI engines should be driven hard

[elf_cruiser]

Carbon buildup problem is easily solved by bypassing the PCV system and venting the valve cover straight into the atmosphere...

Hate to sound like a broken record if I've been repeating this in a few threads, but how can you plop down $60k knowing they haven't really addressed the carbon build up issue?

Are you:

1. accepting it and will address/clean it when necessary?
2. naive to it?
3. have a solution planned?

I'm not trying to harp on the negative or knock anyone's purchase, I'm vocalizing this concern because I want to buy an S5 and this is really the only thing holding me back at this point.

[hbk695]

For aesthetic reasons I would usually recommend the V8. However, I have commuted to mid-town manhattan for a year in a manual and got real tired of constant stop-and-go traffic. I'd recommend the 3.0T not just for the engine, but also for the s-tronic transmission that will come with it. Unfortunately, you probably won't see this configuration until the 2012 refresh .

Since you need to buy this summer, I'd get the S5 and live with the lack of fuel efficiency. In terms of performance, the V8 is still superior.

Acutally in terms of performance, especially if I'd go with the Automatic, the V8 would be significantly slower than the V6t with the S-tronic. They recently did a comparison between the V8 S5 and the V6 Cabrio on insideline.com and both showed almost identical performance numbers even though the cabrio outweighed the coupe by a few hundred pounds.
Source: http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...-s5-coupe.html

[Lugnuts]

If you want an Audi that looks good, performs well, with the V6T and S-Tronic...S4?

[hbk695]

If you want an Audi that looks good, performs well, with the V6T and S-Tronic...S4?

The S5 looks far superior in my opinion to the S4, i still have a few years where I won't need a four door, and i want to enjoy them. Plus my friend just got the S4, and I don't want to have the same car.

[JGreen76]

I am subscribed to this thread! I am looking to get a 2011 S5, but am a little hung up due to the V8 and tip-tronic. I don't really want an S4 only because the S5 is stunning and in a class of it's own,IMO. I was talking to my Audi Dealership the other day about this...... The bottom line is, I will wait for the V6T/s-tronic, Audi NA will give us the final word and everything else is just hear-say.

[yellowc4s]

Just keep in mind that a 2011 might not show up until August. I don't know how flexible your need-by date is.

September 2011 in my case

[Scotty@Advanced]

Carbon buildup problem is easily solved by bypassing the PCV system and venting the valve cover straight into the atmosphere...

That would surely pass emissions and keep the EPA happy!

[JimmyBones]

A friend of mine is in sales at an Audi dealership. I asked him about it on Friday, and he said 2011 S5 coupe will keep the V8 because of some sort of marketing BS. Audi thinks it can compete better with the M3 having a V8. What they really need to do is import the RS5 to compete against the M3 and put the V6T in the S5 and drop the price to compete against the 335i.

I was reading an article from Audi's internal website about this early today at work and I can't for the life of me find it now but I will check tomorrow. From what I remember the article said that the coupe will keep the V8 another year because Audi claims that the demographic that wants the coupe like the V8 over the V6T. They say that the customer's perception is that the V8 feels and sounds more like a proper sports car. I agree with the other posters that Audi does need to bring over the RS5 and the S4 already kicks the 335I, Infinity, and Mercedes cars butts so now all that is left is to destroy the M3 again like the RS4 did. My shop foreman already even agreed to send me to RS5 school if it comes over so I want that car just as bad as you guys do.

[sifu]

An interesting article to read.

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010...inite-for-u-s/

[ikaruba]

Recently got the order sheets for the 2011 S5 coupe and definitely the 4.2 FSI engine is still available, with HD radios standard with the Navigation package which also inculdes Rear parking sensors and camera for all trim lines! Prices not available yet and delivery expected August or september.

[Chiggy]

I accessed my carcostcanada membership the other day and it had some information listed for a few of Audi's 2011 models, including the S5. No pricing information was provided but it indicated the availability of an 8 speed automatic with tiptronic transmission. I believe the new 2011 A8 is going to have an 8 speed tiptronic, sounds like they might be using the same transmission in the new S5. That would make sense since both the A5 and S5 have the same 4.2 FSI engine. However, I wonder if the S5 will get a boost in HP as the A8 version of the engine will have 370+ HP. Carcostcanada didn't mention engine specs other than displacement and that it would be a v8.