Suspension issue 3.0Q and purchased 1.8 springs....

[Wanted]

I have a 2003 B6 3.0Q 6spd with the non-sport suspension and purchased 02 Sport springs from a 1.8T manual. This is my daily driver and I have other "toys" that I modify so I went the route of purchasing 02 Sport Springs from a fellow AZ member because I wanted a better stance.

I purchased the springs quite some time ago and for some reason am just now putting two and two together that I might have a problem. (I know...)

Both cars are manual transmissions and by all indications I'm finding that the GVW difference between the two is only 183lbs when both are manual. Mine is Quattro - but the donor car was not.

The question: Can I use the springs from a manual 1.8T on a manual 3.0?

Anyone now or have any info where I might find the spring rates for the different springs that audi used?

I've searched and read TONS but would appreciate some direct feedback.

Thanks in advance,

Matt

[pmi_man]

they fit just fine, i just installed my tein springs for a 1.8t fwd on my 3.0. the only difference is that the 3.0 weighs arround 100lbs more i think.

[Ill 3.0]

I don't ever remember reading someone with a 3.0 and tried 1.8T springs and I'm not surprised you had a hard time finding info on this. Hell, even manufacturers are sometimes vague about what suspension setups work for B6 1.8T/3.0/4.2. Personally, for the cost of the springs and labor to replace them I'd just sell them on AZ and buy 3.0 springs.

EDIT just saw new post: Well, guess you learn something new everyday now that pmi_man says they're fine. But how do they ride?

[Boosted3.0]

Shocks would have a different rates and the springs are 1.8 specific. However I don't think you should have a problem, just don't expect your ride to be amazing. Also make sure you buy new shocks since your stock 3.0 non sport wern't designed to be constantly compressed.

[Audi Skate Snow]

They are the same thing as long as both quattro... only difference between the springs are the spring rate since the cars weight different.

[Wanted]

I'm going to give it a shot and see what happens. I have enough other cars that if it ends up raking too far forward (which I don't think it will) that I don't want to drive it, I can park it and address the issue. I'll also be putting on new shocks all around as well at the same time.

Thanks for the feedback! I'll keep you posted.

[JEENYUS]

i am pretty sure that yesterday there was a kid that had installed 1.8t shocks on his 3.0... i will look for the thread. pmi man was the OP... i should have put two and two together...

[Wanted]

For what it's worth regarding shocks - when you go to a site for shocks - say any of the Koni FSD sites for instance; the part number is the EXACT same for 1.8T vs 3.0 (including manual vs auto, quattro vs FWD). It only changes up for avant over sedan and only then the change is the rear shock only.

Koni.com - it's easy to switch it up and see what carries over from one to other if you want to look for yourself.

The 3.0 guy (pmi man) shouldn't have a single problem with a 1.8t shock/strut/dampner - whatever you want to call them. Valving isn't specific to a couple hundred pounds (which is what the difference is with 1.8t vs 3.0) - otherwise our cars would ride like sh*t when we traveled with gear/luggage in our cars, or you have multiple passengers. Valving is based on a general weight with plenty of +/- built in for just those occasions.

[absolutegtr]

make sure you wait a couple weeks for the springs to settle

[Wanted]

Good advice absolutegtr.

[TNAquattro]

When I bought my car it was sitting on b5 1.8T front springs and b6 1.8T rear springs on sport suspension.. ride wasn't bad but I switched to c/o's anyways for adjustability.

[Boosted3.0]

For what it's worth regarding shocks - when you go to a site for shocks - say any of the Koni FSD sites for instance; the part number is the EXACT same for 1.8T vs 3.0 (including manual vs auto, quattro vs FWD). It only changes up for avant over sedan and only then the change is the rear shock only.

Koni.com - it's easy to switch it up and see what carries over from one to other if you want to look for yourself.

The 3.0 guy (pmi man) shouldn't have a single problem with a 1.8t shock/strut/dampner - whatever you want to call them. Valving isn't specific to a couple hundred pounds (which is what the difference is with 1.8t vs 3.0) - otherwise our cars would ride like sh*t when we traveled with gear/luggage in our cars, or you have multiple passengers. Valving is based on a general weight with plenty of +/- built in for just those occasions.

Your running OEM shocks...not koni shocks.

[infernocl]

the addition weight in the front should drop the car tiny bit lower, but rears would drop lower as well from quattro.

seems like a good balance

[Wanted]

Your running OEM shocks...not koni shocks.

- gee thanks boosted - what a putz statement. It was reference based on the valving of shocks in general - thus the "for instance".

[Boosted3.0]

- gee thanks boosted - what a putz statement. It was reference based on the valving of shocks in general - thus the "for instance".

Just because 1.8T and 3.0 Koni shocks are valved the same does not mean the OEM shocks are valved the same between the 1.8T and 3.0. A little hint...they are different. The spring rates are the same between the Koni shocks because the spring rates are much higher then stock. When your spring rate is much higher the weight of the car makes much less of a difference. Maybe you should open your eyes and read before you insult a forum member. But hey it's your car and feel free to improperly mod it as you see fit. Damn three ringers.

[pmi_man]

just because someone has 1 less "ring" as you doesn't make them stupid. they could be just as retarted as you, not saying you are though, just in general. that's an ignorat statement

[Wanted]

Boosted - your statement doesn't make much sense and I don't buy the boards argument that OEM shocks are valved so differently. I've read the threads on it and other than conjecture I've seen no hard data to prove that it is in fact different. Valving - using fluids in small measurements such as ounces like we are talking about with shocks is not going to make that much difference when you are talking about the weight differences between these two models. I also don't buy the rhetoric about using sport shocks with standard springs like you see discussed here. For the variance of under 1" on the height - it's negligible at best. I looked at 6 or 7 shock sites and they ALL showed the same part numbers between the 1.8 and 3.0 so your blind statement of the OEM being vastly different really doesn't hold any water with me. What empirical data to support that the OEM would be different do you have?

You say "a little hint - they are different" - prove it.

It's more of the same out of some members like you who talk so far out of their ass that you create fact where in truth there only lies fiction.

[Boosted3.0]

just because someone has 1 less "ring" as you doesn't make them stupid. they could be just as retarted as you, not saying you are though, just in general. that's an ignorat statement

Retarted is actually spelled Retarded. If you want to talk about being ignorant (which you also misspelled,) you shouldn't be using slurs for mentally handicapped people to refer to someone’s intelligence. I never said he was stupid so I don't know where you’re getting that from. I just said he shouldn't be so quick to insult a forum member for helping someone. My reference to three ringers was that some members with three rings don't have the forum experience to know how to act online towards others. Key word is some.

[Wanted]

My reference to three ringers was that some members with three rings don't have the forum experience to know how to act online towards others. Key word is some.

That's almost funny Boosted. Almost. To assume that someones "experience", forum or otherwise, has ANYTHING to do with the number of rings or other forum moniker is another pretty short sighted statement on your part. Bow to the four rings ... gimme a break. You're proving that anyone can make any statement about anything to drive those ring numbers up......

[Boosted3.0]

That's almost funny Boosted. Almost. To assume that someones "experience", forum or otherwise, has ANYTHING to with the number of rings or other forum moniker is another pretty short sited statement on your part. Bow to the four rings ... gimme a break. You're proving that anyone can make any statement about anything to drive those ring numbers up......

Short *sighted*

Horrible argument btw.

[pmi_man]

yeah, i mis-spelled retarded, big whoop. and no i meant ignorant. but go ahead and critique my grammar, it doesn't mean you know more or less about cars than people with less "rings".

[Boosted3.0]

yeah, i mis-spelled retarded, big whoop. and no i meant ignorant. but go ahead and critique my grammar, it doesn't mean you know more or less about cars than people with less "rings".

Again I never said I knew more about cars then someone with three rings.