b6 a4 cluster with s4 needles and face plate install

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I recently acquired an 05 b6 s4 cluster and swapped the needles and face plate im not sure how to set the needles they all seem fine besides the rpm sits a little lower than it should how would i go about setting the needles back to normal do i take it off and re position or would i be able to turn the needle counter clockwise til it stops and than set it on the mark any help would be greatly appreciated,thanks [IMG][/IMG]

[audifirst]

remove the needle and put it higher..
usually if you doing yourself I recommend taking photos of the needle position before you remove them, this way at least you can match to your original ..

[b6a41.8tbagg]

remove the needle and put it higher..
usually if you doing yourself I recommend taking photos of the needle position before you remove them, this way at least you can match to your original ..

yeah i took pics i put the needles on there marks when i turned the key over the rpm needle dropped just a little below the the last line,i havent fired it up yet to see where it moves. ill have to take it apart and re position that needle thanks

[chad99]

I recently acquired an 05 b6 s4 cluster and swapped the needles and face plate im not sure how to set the needles they all seem fine besides the rpm sits a little lower than it should how would i go about setting the needles back to normal do i take it off and re position or would i be able to turn the needle counter clockwise til it stops and than set it on the mark any help would be greatly appreciated,thanks [IMG][/IMG]

Did you find a s4 with Red needles?....also any reason why you didn't want the color dic?

[onceover]

Color display wont drop in. You have to swap the whole cluster for that

[itsmatt33]

i have a s4 cluster for sale :]


OP why didnt u just put the whole s4 cluster in?

[walky_talky20]

The way to calibrate these properly is to use vag-com "output test mode". It will put both needles at a certain position. I believe it puts them to 3k RPM and 100 KPH (62 MPH). Obviously you could care less if they are perfectly accurate at '0'. What you want is for the speedo/tach to be accurate within their normal operating range. The guys that rebuild clusters will hook them up and do this test before they put them back together so they get the needles set properly.

Example:

[kwimberly]

What's the benefit of this? Just to get the S4 badge on your A4? Different fonts?

[rollerton]

When I do mine I plug the cluster into the car with the needles removed, turn the key on and install the needles at the bottom stop or " 0 " . Or run the VCDS output test and set them that way. If you just lightly set the needles you CAN turn them CCW to get them right, then push them on fully.
So-- O.P; You just installed the white needles and S4 gauge faces on your A4 cluster? Doesn't it look kind of funny? The S4 back-lighting is WHITE as opposed to the A4's RED. So, when you do this doesn't it make the needles kind of a dim pink color? Also the cutout for the center display is just barely larger...so the screen doesn't look right (to me) this way.

[chad99]

I recently acquired an 05 b6 s4 cluster and swapped the needles and face plate im not sure how to set the needles they all seem fine besides the rpm sits a little lower than it should how would i go about setting the needles back to normal do i take it off and re position or would i be able to turn the needle counter clockwise til it stops and than set it on the mark any help would be greatly appreciated,thanks [IMG][/IMG]

Did you find a s4 with Red needles?....also any reason why you didn't want the color dic?

Haha stupid flakey internet connection at airports

[onceover]

Did you find a s4 with Red needles?....also any reason why you didn't want the color dic?

Really?

[Greedo]

What's the benefit of this? Just to get the S4 badge on your A4? Different fonts?

I'm wondering the same. Only difference I'm noticing is the S4 badge. What am I missing?

[chad99]

Color display wont drop in. You have to swap the whole cluster for that

I meant why didn't he just swap in the whole cluster instead of just the faces...but then again it might not work since hi car is listed as 2003

[ShogunR32]

He probably found an S4 cluster on ebay for cheap that didn't work and used it for parts. I saw one not that long ago for like $40.

[b6a41.8tbagg]

I'm wondering the same. Only difference I'm noticing is the S4 badge. What am I missing?

just a few things nothing major the s4 badge being one the rpm starts at 0 and goes to 8k the 2 lines after 160mph i just wanted the grey face plates and white needles mostly it looks sick in the daytime

[b6a41.8tbagg]

He probably found an S4 cluster on ebay for cheap that didn't work and used it for parts. I saw one not that long ago for like $40.

no i got out an audi salvage yard i baught 2 of them for $100 not bad

[chad99]

no i got out an audi salvage yard i baught 2 of them for $100 not bad

Currious which salvage yard... are they in the bay area?...or up by sac

[b6a41.8tbagg]

thanks for the replys im not sure if i would be able to swap the whole cluster my car is an 03 with a build date of sept 02 ive heard the color dis is compatible with 02 for some reason.yeah the needles do look a little pink just slightly they look crisper it looks really good though i was still wanting to maintain the red needles on white backlighting,ill have to do the output tests on vagcom to calibrate there positions.i have a color dis laying around if anyone wants it pm me

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Currious which salvage yard... are they in the bay area?...or up by sac

sacramento pm me ill let you know the spot

[ShogunR32]

no i got out an audi salvage yard i baught 2 of them for $100 not bad

I was close. Pm me if you wanna sell your other S4 cluster so i can throw it in my car. I have an 05 that I put 152k miles on so i think it should work.

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I was close. Pm me if you wanna sell your other S4 cluster so i can throw it in my car. I have an 05 that I put 152k miles on so i think it should work.

nice..if the front screen wasnt cracked i would sell you it not sure of mileage on it,next time im down that way i can grab a few more in really good condition depending on price and see if you still want one add me and ill pm you when i pick some more s4 stuff up should be that way in less than 2 weeks

[b6a41.8tbagg]

The way to calibrate these properly is to use vag-com "output test mode". It will put both needles at a certain position. I believe it puts them to 3k RPM and 100 KPH (62 MPH). Obviously you could care less if they are perfectly accurate at '0'. What you want is for the speedo/tach to be accurate within their normal operating range. The guys that rebuild clusters will hook them up and do this test before they put them back together so they get the needles set properly.

Example:

thank you for this much appreciated

[ShogunR32]

nice..if the front screen wasnt cracked i would sell you it not sure of mileage on it,next time im down that way i can grab a few more in really good condition depending on price and see if you still want one add me and ill pm you when i pick some more s4 stuff up should be that way in less than 2 weeks

sounds good.

[rollerton]

thanks for the replys im not sure if i would be able to swap the whole cluster my car is an 03 with a build date of sept 02 ive heard the color dis is compatible with 02 for some reason.

I have the same car, same build month. Once you get the SKC to do the adaptation it should install just fine- there ARE a couple versions of the S4 cluster, but good odds it would install just fine.
P.S. I need ONE white fuel / temp gauge needle! One of mine broke..... so I'm running RED needles on an S4 cluster..which, isn't so bad I guess.

[dougyfresh]

just a few things nothing major the s4 badge being one the rpm starts at 0 and goes to 8k the 2 lines after 160mph i just wanted the grey face plates and white needles mostly it looks sick in the daytime

That is the most ridiculous reason for a mod I've read. All that effort for what? To keep the red DIS still (which sucks moose cock), grey face plates (which are meh) and face plates that say "S4" which from a badging standpoint is 'Poser'.

The colour DIS is what you want (my '02 has that and its fucking awesome). But then again what do I know? My views on mods to these cars are not really inline with the industry and general public.

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[QUOTE=dougyfresh;7886955]That is the most ridiculous reason for a mod I've read. All that effort for what? To keep the red DIS still (which sucks moose cock), grey face plates (which are meh) and face plates that say "S4" which from a badging standpoint is 'Poser'.

The colour DIS is what you want (my '02 has that and its fucking awesome). But then again what do I know? My views on mods to these cars are not really inline with the industry and general public.[/QUOTE


well its my car i enjoy adding s4 interior parts they are made to a higher standard than regular a4 not so meh! but more fuck yeah in my opinion if you think that thats poser cool we all have our opinions ill probably be more of a poser next week when i put the entire s4 cluster in an s4 tiptronic steering wheel with paddle shifters s4 recaro seats and porsche boxster front calipers..ill be getting my pose on.

[b6a41.8tbagg]

thanks for the info much appreciated next time im at the yard i can look for a broken cluster and grab a set of needles for ya ill let you know add me ill pm ya

I have the same car, same build month. Once you get the SKC to do the adaptation it should install just fine- there ARE a couple versions of the S4 cluster, but good odds it would install just fine.
P.S. I need ONE white fuel / temp gauge needle! One of mine broke..... so I'm running RED needles on an S4 cluster..which, isn't so bad I guess.

[Matt Devo]

well its my car i enjoy adding s4 interior parts they are made to a higher standard than regular a4 not so meh! but more fuck yeah in my opinion if you think that thats poser cool we all have our opinions ill probably be more of a poser next week when i put the entire s4 cluster in an s4 tiptronic steering wheel with paddle shifters s4 recaro seats and porsche boxster front calipers..ill be getting my pose on.

you completely missed Doug's point. There's nothing wrong with upgrading your car functionally with S/RS etc parts.

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well than im sorry doug the poser thing kinda stung just a little i would love to own an s4

you completely missed Doug's point. There's nothing wrong with upgrading your car functionally with S/RS etc parts.

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another pic or just more ridiculousness [IMG][/IMG]

[diagnosticator]

Sorry, I still don't understand why you wanted to do this, the modified cluster still looks the same as the original A4 cluster to me.

[Kittrell]

This is so ridiculous. First of all the S4 cluster goes to 170 mph. Since the dial is symmetric your speed is now incorrect. You will actually be driving faster than your speedometer tells you. You have to mod the cluster eeprom for the needles to match the S4 readout. Following what everyone else has said the reason to get the S4 cluster is for the color DIS. So Doug's poser comment was spot on and it was meant to "sting". Swapping the S4 backing only is the equivalent to just slapping an S4 badge on the trunk. You are correct, you do not own an S4. I'm not saying you shouldn't swap on some parts but there are ways to do it without being tacky. What you have done here is tacky and frankly embarrassing. Good luck with the rest of your modding.

[chad99]

I agree what he did was a lot of work for not much payout BUT I also agree that the font on the S4 face is nicer than the stock faces; its a minor change and honestly I didn't notice the difference till I looked at both gauges side by side

[b6a41.8tbagg]

This is so ridiculous. First of all the S4 cluster goes to 170 mph. Since the dial is symmetric your speed is now incorrect. You will actually be driving faster than your speedometer tells you. You have to mod the cluster eeprom for the needles to match the S4 readout. Following what everyone else has said the reason to get the S4 cluster is for the color DIS. So Doug's poser comment was spot on and it was meant to "sting". Swapping the S4 backing only is the equivalent to just slapping an S4 badge on the trunk. You are correct, you do not own an S4. I'm not saying you shouldn't swap on some parts but there are ways to do it without being tacky. What you have done here is tacky and frankly embarrassing. Good luck with the rest of your modding.

embarrassing go fuck your self, good luck with the rest of your day

[itsmatt33]

lol this got funny. incase anyone else wants to pretend they have an s4 they can buy my s4 cluster hahah

[b6a41.8tbagg]

hahahahahahahahahah your cute heheheheheh

lol this got funny. incase anyone else wants to pretend they have an s4 they can buy my s4 cluster hahah

[itsmatt33]

why thank you. ladies seem to think so too:]

[b6a41.8tbagg]

[IMG][/IMG] so its off how would i correct this through the eeprom if possible can i just get another S4 cluster and do the adaptations to get it to work

[b6a41.8tbagg]

why thank you. ladies seem to think so too:]

word!would i be able to fix this or just snag another whole cluster and put that in

[b6a41.8tbagg]

i didnt mean that if you see me on the streets u have my permission to punch me in the stomach good day

embarrassing go fuck your self, good luck with the rest of your day