Show and Tell Your Suspension Setup!

[goreckless]

Suspension: KW Variant 1 coilovers
Wheels: HRE M40 19x8.5 ET38 (front), ET33 (rear)
Tires: Falken FK452 245/35/19

Since I have no clue exactly how much we dropped it, here are before and after pics...

Before:


After:

I'm getting tint soon, and I was just wondering what % yours is. It looks really good!

Thanks

[AllOnBlack]

WOW. That looks AMAZING!

I was just thinking how sinister this car looks and then notice "Hell st" in the background

[Blake P]

I'm getting tint soon, and I was just wondering what % yours is. It looks really good!

Thanks

The tint in those pictures was 30%, but has been removed and retinted to 50% after 2 fix-it tickets from johnny law.

[xileh]

WOW. That looks AMAZING!

I was just thinking how sinister this car looks and then notice "Hell st" in the background

Thank you. The sign in the background is the idea with the picture ;)
I live just a few miles away from Hell

[MiracleWhips]

Bump

Anyone else care to share?

[Nght&Day-B8]

I have to take some pictures this weekend of mine.. I'm lowered on H&R sport springs, all I can say is I'm very pleased

[Nght&Day-B8]

ok, so here it is by request! Im on H&R sport springs, still on stock 17's

[SignitrSideways]

Stasis Touring Springs, the drop was.... a ton since i came from non-s-line suspension. wheels: 19" VMR 708's.. Tires 255/35 Hankook V12
before:

after:

[b6onboost]

^ is it just perspective or is the B8 really THAT much bigger than the B5? I know the B8 is larger, but I've never seen them side by side.

[SignitrSideways]

^ is it just perspective or is the B8 really THAT much bigger than the B5? I know the B8 is larger, but I've never seen them side by side.

its really THAT much bigger. pretty crazy seeing them in a garage next to each other actually

[CLEAR]

[QUOTE=Nght&Day-B8;4247347]ok, so here it is by request! Im on H&R sport springs, still on stock 17's




I guess this is why H&R comes with Super Sport which gives 1.5" front & 2" rear , vs your "sport" 1.5" f & r drop.


Sport Spring AWD, Typ B8 1.5 1.5 50361 $ 439.00 Kit
Super Sport Spring AWD, Typ B8 1.5 2.0 50361-77 $ 439.00 Kit

[Nght&Day-B8]

yea, now that i have it done i should of gone with super sport. its definitely higher in the rear. but im eventually going with coilovers around march of next year so i'll just hold off.

[audib8nyc]

definitely going to pick up some h&r's for next summer in the meantime ill have my fat friends sit in the back lol

[cd6sir]

H&R OE Sport Springs + BILSTEIN B8

[Calabria]

its really THAT much bigger. pretty crazy seeing them in a garage next to each other actually

How much room is there for the rear passengers and the front passengers for that matter compared to the B5? Makes it look like an A6 next to it...

[mattstorm]

Still need to take proper pics, but here's my set up.




KW V2's, 19' VMR 710's, Stasiss Rear Sway.

Special thanks to Nick and Ryne at AE Performance for the install. If you are in SoCal, I would highly recommend these guys, they're service is impeccable and knowledge of the B8 is incredible.

[SignitrSideways]

How much room is there for the rear passengers and the front passengers for that matter compared to the B5? Makes it look like an A6 next to it...

i would say that thats how it feels inside too. I'm 6'1" and with a slight move forward of the person in the front seats, I can sit fine, where in the B5 my head is hittin the roof haha. sitting next to my buddy's e30 3 series, the b5 looks comparable in size. the fronts are huge in my perspective! It's a heavier, bigger car by all means.

[MiracleWhips]

Just wanted to thank everyone so far who has contributed to this thread!

Obviously us B8'ers have a lot of style!

[L0U]

Suspension: KW Variant 3 coilovers
Drop: around 3/4 inch
Wheels: HRE M40 20x9 ET39 (front), ET41 (rear)
Tires: Michelin PS2 255/30-20

It appears to me from Anthonys ride and yours, that 255s on 20x9 works real well. Anthonys et42, and your slightly more agressive et39,41. This is a great refference for anyone putting 20s on.

Strange that the et is actually pushing the fronts out more than the rears? usually the lower offset is in the back. Is the rears really the 41, or are they the 39?

If the rubber stays 255, I wonder how much shift a 9.5 rim would move things. If the rim is as wide as the tire on the 9", maybe the bottom line is the same et works.

Lou

[Blake P]

...usually the lower offset is in the back.

FYI- I'm running a higher offset in front too. After adding spacers, my setup is now 19x8.5" ET28 front and ET33 rear on 245/35/19 Nitto INVO tires. It's about as close to flush as I could get without any rubbing.

[L0U]

i could have sworn your 28s were on the back. my mistake.

edit, wait post 130 in your (blakes ride post)

HRE M40
19x8.5"
ET38mm (F) / ET33mm (R)
Brushed

38, not 28! the 33 rear was correct. but this would mean 5mm more inwards on the front.

clarification required i suppose.

[dOubleO]

Here's mine:

• H&R 29092-1 Street Coilover Kit
• VMR V710 19x8.5 ET35 w/ 245/35/19 Hankook Ventus V12

[audib8nyc]

i wanna buy some lowing springs any body wanna share they're experience like best company? how much? where to order from ?

[Blake P]

i could have sworn your 28s were on the back. my mistake.

edit, wait post 130 in your (blakes ride post)

HRE M40
19x8.5"
ET38mm (F) / ET33mm (R)
Brushed

38, not 28! the 33 rear was correct. but this would mean 5mm more inwards on the front.

clarification required i suppose.

Yes, the 33's were on back and 38's were in front, but the fronts looked sunk and the rears were rubbing every once in a while on big dips and driveways so I decided to swap them front and rear to see how it looked. Surprisingly, they were equally unaggressive all around, but not quite flush. When I changed tires this past week to Nitto INVO with more forgiving sidewalls than the Falken FK452's, I also added 5mm spacers all around. This brought the front offset to ET28 and rears to ET33. Now I'm completely happy with how they look and have absolutely NO rubbing at all. Ideally, I wish HRE would have built the wheels with non-staggered offsets of ET30 all around... scratch that, ideally HRE would have realized 8.5" is too pansy for the B8 and done at least 9" ET35 or 9.5" ET40 all around. Oh well, live and learn!

[L0U]

Thanks for the history on the changes. Do you think you could post a current picture of the front back gaps? With all the tweaks it should be just about perfect now.

[Blake P]

Thanks for the history on the changes. Do you think you could post a current picture of the front back gaps? With all the tweaks it should be just about perfect now.

Sure, but it might be a couple weeks before I have a chance to take new pics.

[awhk82]

It appears to me from Anthonys ride and yours, that 255s on 20x9 works real well. Anthonys et42, and your slightly more agressive et39,41. This is a great refference for anyone putting 20s on.

Strange that the et is actually pushing the fronts out more than the rears? usually the lower offset is in the back. Is the rears really the 41, or are they the 39?

If the rubber stays 255, I wonder how much shift a 9.5 rim would move things. If the rim is as wide as the tire on the 9", maybe the bottom line is the same et works.

Lou

Some how HRE has sent me wheels with wrong offsets: 2 x ET46 and 2 x ET34. I was putting ET46 upfront and ET34 at the rear. After putting on coilovers, then I found out that the rear offset is too aggressive. I shaved 5mm off the hub to ET39 but the rears still rubs whenever my car go throughs bumps or something. So I switched the front and rears and put a 5mm spacers for the rears to make it ET41 with ET39 front. The rear still barely rubs but it has to some how matches the flushness of the front thus adding the 5mm spacers. The best offset I would recommend for 20x9 255 application would be ET43 for front and rear. Regarding the rim width, I don't think it affects much as long the tires stays at 255 with offset around ET43.

[awhk82]

H&R OE Sport Springs + BILSTEIN B8

Great to see another HK person on the forum. Nice to meet you.

[JasonR]

Sorry to hear about the trouble you had to go through. Very helpful information, so thanks!

The best offset I would recommend for 20x9 255 application would be ET43 for front and rear. Regarding the rim width, I don't think it affects much as long the tires stays at 255 with offset around ET43.

I don't think I follow what you're saying here. Offset and rim width are related, and you have to select an appropriate offset for the car and a given rim width. For example, let's suppose you wanted to swap your ideal 9" wide rims with ET43 offset for an 8.5" wide rim, and maintain the same 'look' with respect to the fenders. The narrower rim would be 1/4" sunken into the wheel well compared with the 9" rim if we selected the same ET43 offset. To compensate, we'd need to subtract that 1/4" (6.35mm) from the offset for ET36.65 (so ET36 or ET37 assuming whole numbers are the goal).

[eboosted]

OEM ADS suspension:

[Quattroownsyou]

This thread makes me wanna go out and buy a B8.....some really nice rides in here.

[awhk82]

Sorry to hear about the trouble you had to go through. Very helpful information, so thanks!



I don't think I follow what you're saying here. Offset and rim width are related, and you have to select an appropriate offset for the car and a given rim width. For example, let's suppose you wanted to swap your ideal 9" wide rims with ET43 offset for an 8.5" wide rim, and maintain the same 'look' with respect to the fenders. The narrower rim would be 1/4" sunken into the wheel well compared with the 9" rim if we selected the same ET43 offset. To compensate, we'd need to subtract that 1/4" (6.35mm) from the offset for ET36.65 (so ET36 or ET37 assuming whole numbers are the goal).

I definitely agree that if switching the wheels from 9" to 8.5" the wheels will sunken by .25", however, if keeping the same 255 width tires but changing the wheel offset to ET36 or ET37 will increase the chance of rubbing the fenders as the centre of the wheel and tires have been pushed outward by 6-7mm. My point to Lou is that changing from 9" to 9.5" wheel width with the same tire width and wheel offset will not cause the tire to rub the fender as the wider rim might give a very slight stretch on the sidewall but not the tread width.

[awhk82]

OEM ADS suspension:

New style mirrors eh? Anyone knows the part numbers and prices? Sorry about being OT.

[JasonR]

My point to Lou is that changing from 9" to 9.5" wheel width with the same tire width and wheel offset will not cause the tire to rub the fender as the wider rim might give a very slight stretch on the sidewall but not the tread width.

Gotcha! I hadn't considered the 'stretch' effect but that makes sense.

[L0U]

I definitely agree that if switching the wheels from 9" to 8.5" the wheels will sunken by .25", however, if keeping the same 255 width tires but changing the wheel offset to ET36 or ET37 will increase the chance of rubbing the fenders as the centre of the wheel and tires have been pushed outward by 6-7mm. My point to Lou is that changing from 9" to 9.5" wheel width with the same tire width and wheel offset will not cause the tire to rub the fender as the wider rim might give a very slight stretch on the sidewall but not the tread width.

Yes, I have come to get my head around the difference between wider rim, and offset. If the stock rim and tire is 255 et43...then moving an 1" bigger with the same tire 255 and et43 means that although the rim is 1" larger, the same size tire is centered in the same place. SO just how much wider is the tire going to extend with the same et, and same tire. We agree not very much. I read somewhere .3 of an inch wider on a 1" bigger rim, so cut that in half, we get .15" or about 3.8mm. or 3.8et less. (cut that in half again for your 9" rims we get 2et. I know that the 8.5s with 35et work, so your 9s with 37et in theory should. yet you needed 41. (off by 4mm) oh well. learning what works best more each day.

Running the same rim size and same tire size, but changing the et by 5 has more effect. Or changing the tire size on the same rim,et,. A 265 is 10mm bigger, so 5mm et equivalent.

I wonder if hre measure et differently, because 2 people now seem to have rubbing with what other rim makers seem to work with. sportecs uses 20x9 et40 lowered no probs.

I found a set of 20x9.5s in 42et. with 255s it might be majical for fittment! besides the tire sites vehicle guide guarantees the 20x9 et42 255s will fit a B8. :)

[L0U]

It appears to me from Anthonys ride and yours, that 255s on 20x9 works real well. Anthonys et42, and your slightly more agressive et39,41. This is a great refference for anyone putting 20s on.

Looking at the pictures of the 2 cars, Anthonys 42s look much, much further inside the wheelwell than your 39,41s . 2 or 3 mm different. compare pictures. Makes me think your 39/41s are perhaps actually 36/38s! Could they have been measured wrong from hre?

[awhk82]

Looking at the pictures of the 2 cars, Anthonys 42s look much, much further inside the wheelwell than your 39,41s . 2 or 3 mm different. compare pictures. Makes me think your 39/41s are perhaps actually 36/38s! Could they have been measured wrong from hre?

Anthony's car looks about right for ET42. My rear tires are somehow tucked in when looking at the top as well. The area that rubs is where the rear quarter panel meets the rear bumper, that's where the rear tires starting to stick out. I believe the difference between mine and his is that my car looks lower than his (probably due to lower suspension setting and/or bigger overall diameter of 20", which pushes the tires nearer the fenders. Also, I am using Pilot Sport 2, which is fairly bulky (don't know which word to use) compared to other brands of tires with the same tired width. Different brands of tires might physically have different actual tire widths eventhough they all stated their tires are 255 in spec. So tire brands woud be another factor to consider. I will try to take few snaps over the weekend for you to make better comparision.

[CLEAR]

drop it like it's Ibis White! :D

[Blake P]

Different brands of tires might physically have different actual tire widths eventhough they all stated their tires are 255 in spec.

This is 100% true. I've found that different tires with the same specs can vary significantly in actual width. One of the primary reasons is the shape of the sidewall. For example, the sidewalls of my Falken FK452's were so square that the shop where I had them mounted and balanced refers to them as "fender fvckers" because they cause rubbing issues for so many people. The sidewalls on the Nitto INVO's I replaced them with last week are much more rounded and not anywhere near rubbing the fenders now. FYI- Toyo T1R's are notorious for having the most forgiving sidewalls for avoiding fender rubbing issues.

[Blake P]

drop it like it's Ibis White! :D

That looks so $$$... great job!