New turbo OPTION! sort of

**Boris** · 03-31-2009 05:49 PM

I always asked atp why they didnt adapt their eliminator kit for our cars...

and now.. look!!! for the same price as RS6's you can get these ball bearing suckers, gt 28 rs, bolt on, Cheaper than those tials,...

hmmmm

gt28rs on stock log mani? HMmmmm

http://www.aptuning.net/2000_To_2003...tp-vvw-222.htm

**JDM EJ1 95** · 03-31-2009 05:53 PM

veeeery nice

**ajb_unc** · 03-31-2009 05:55 PM

holy crap that is awesome!!

**Hyperlitebordr** · 03-31-2009 05:56 PM

interesting...very nice alternative

**Boris** · 03-31-2009 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Hyperlitebordr

interesting...very nice alternative

Isn't it!! Shit, IM excited, theres no reason to get Rs6 journal bearings if these are legit. ATP knows their stuff pretty well, so I bet these things are...

Shooot, for guys that already have ko4 setups, you could sell your ko4's put these suckers and maybe rods as well in, and be set.

HOw much exactly the log mani's will restrict things will be interesting to see...BUT you could put an aftermarket Ko4 manifold on...if those increase flow at all...and these would fit as well, since its still oriented in the same place...

Hmmm.

I bet these are good for at least Rs6 type power. More if done right, if indeed they have the same characteristics of the gt28rs...

**washyourrhands** · 03-31-2009 06:16 PM

NICE

im so glad glad i just did k04s

**kodycobra** · 03-31-2009 06:20 PM

Hmm...Wonder if I should try em out

I'm getting ready to buy an upgrade here very shortly anyway

**Boris** · 03-31-2009 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by kodycobra

Hmm...Wonder if I should try em out

I'm getting ready to buy an upgrade here very shortly anyway

i think im gunna do it.

**kodycobra** · 03-31-2009 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Boris

i think im gunna do it.

You have a PM sir!

**Ragno** · 03-31-2009 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by kodycobra

You have a PM sir!

PM me too

I'm looking at getting new turbos SOON are these a sound option?
For a little more then K04 and about the same as RS6... could it really be true.

Are these BOLT up no modifications same aa the KO4 setup?

**bl0wn3ur0** · 03-31-2009 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Boris

Isn't it!! Shit, IM excited, theres no reason to get Rs6 journal bearings if these are legit. ATP knows their stuff pretty well, so I bet these things are...

Shooot, for guys that already have ko4 setups, you could sell your ko4's put these suckers and maybe rods as well in, and be set.

HOw much exactly the log mani's will restrict things will be interesting to see...BUT you could put an aftermarket Ko4 manifold on...if those increase flow at all...and these would fit as well, since its still oriented in the same place...

Hmmm.

I bet these are good for at least Rs6 type power. More if done right, if indeed they have the same characteristics of the gt28rs...

people have made the same power with eliminators that the "real" gt28rs makes on the 1.8t......so it should work the same for you guys

**Ragno** · 03-31-2009 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by bl0wn3ur0

people have made the same power with eliminators that the "real" gt28rs makes on the 1.8t......so it should work the same for you guys

What makes them not "real" besides the custom turbine housing? How new are these turbos to the market? No one has tried them before?

**S4FORCE1** · 03-31-2009 07:15 PM

Wow! Subscribed!

**GetAwayFromMe** · 03-31-2009 07:15 PM

I think that price is for one only. Someone prove me wrong. Either way if it's for a set than that's a pretty good deal.

**b5s4tt** · 03-31-2009 07:15 PM

thats good to know

**hyperlight944** · 03-31-2009 07:16 PM

i wonder how long they take to spool .. i need a turbo upgrade soon anyways hehe

**Boris** · 03-31-2009 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Ragno

What makes them not "real" besides the custom turbine housing? How new are these turbos to the market? No one has tried them before?

they just have modified turbine housings so they mate up to our exhaust mani's..that and it looks like they welded on the proper direction for the inlets.

I have not heard of anyone having these on their 2.7 yet, but I bet if you call atp they have on some test car of theirs....

seems promising. ATP turbo to the best of my knowledge is a first rate place, that supplies alot of other people with their garret turbos as well..

**Evilevo** · 03-31-2009 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by GetAwayFromMe

I think that price is for one only. Someone prove me wrong. Either way if it's for a set than that's a pretty good deal.

Are you out of your mind? I payed $2600 for both my turbos and that is with them being custom. That price is def for both

**Ragno** · 03-31-2009 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by GetAwayFromMe

I think that price is for one only. Someone prove me wrong. Either way if it's for a set than that's a pretty good deal.

2000 to 2003 Audi 2.7T twin turbo Eliminator GT28RS kit. 700HP capable in the pair. Complete hardware including custom turbine housing to bolt up to stock style exhaust manifold and stock style downpipe flanges. 3" downpipes highly recommended along with high flowing inlet pipes to ensure proper airflow in and out of these monster turbos.

Makes me think its two, but could be wrong.

**Boris** · 03-31-2009 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ragno

PM me too

I'm looking at getting new turbos SOON are these a sound option?
For a little more then K04 and about the same as RS6... could it really be true.

Are these BOLT up no modifications same aa the KO4 setup?

Yes its definitely for both turbos.

well i dont know that much more than you. I really just stumbled across this, but~ I know ATP turbo is reputable, and that eliminator kit for the a4 has been out for a long time, this is just that thing reconfigured for our manifold/orientation. So it leads me to believe that these things would likely be a pretty reliable setup, Not to mention its essentially a garret gt28rs...

Im excited. I think Im going to go this route after some more research. these turbos cost about the same as what custom manfolds cost for the plain gt28rs's...

**Boosted-S4** · 03-31-2009 07:29 PM

so what are we looking at in $ for this crazy kit?

**Ragno** · 03-31-2009 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Boosted-S4

so what are we looking at in $ for this crazy kit?

Could you not just run the turbos, then upgrade and slowly build up on that as a base?

**RusS4** · 03-31-2009 07:34 PM

NICE! even tho im going single this is still a a great idea.

**AB18** · 03-31-2009 07:36 PM

Atp has been playing with these for years on the 2.7T. Pretty sure mika did there tuning and was horrible. A custom tune from epl or asp is a much better option.

**s2the4** · 03-31-2009 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Ragno

Could you not just run the turbos, then upgrade and slowly build up on that as a base?

to run gt28rs turbos on our car I wouldn't feel comfortable until Rods were replaced, piston rings, head studs, rod bearings, main shaft bearings, and re-deck the heads. But even so you are limited as opposed to doing a full motor overhaul. So all in all is really worth to only go half ass and run 28's or go full out motor rebuild I guess it's up to how much dinero you have.

**Ragno** · 03-31-2009 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by s2the4

to run gt28rs turbos on our car I wouldn't feel comfortable until Rods were replaced, piston rings, head studs, rod bearings, main shaft bearings, and re-deck the heads. But even so you are limited as opposed to doing a full motor overhaul. So all in all is really worth to only go half ass and run 28's or go full out motor rebuild I guess it's up to how much dinero you have.

Thats if you run higher psi on them, no? Could you not run them a little more conservatively for 450-500 and get the reliability of dual ball bearing turbos.

and a little bit of modern turbo technology, instead of the prehistoric ko4..

**Dr. Jekyll** · 03-31-2009 07:49 PM

A built short block isn't all that expensive. Using IE rods you're looking at about 1600 in parts, assuming you get no discounts at all. I'm not sure how much labor it is to hot tank, hone deck, balance and build a short block... but I heard it's not too bad. The bigger issue with 28RS's is that you really want to rev your engine. So you really should build the heads. That will probably tack on another 1500-2000 in parts and labor... if not more.

That said, I really like the fact that we have another turbo option and they are priced very nicely :-)

**kodycobra** · 03-31-2009 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Ragno

Thats if you run higher psi on them, no? Could you not rum them a little more conservatively for 450-500 and get the reliability of dual ball bearing turbos.

and a little bit of modern turbo technology, instead of the prehistoric ko4..

Yes, you could run them on low boost conservatively, I think that what he was saying is that...You'd be foolish not to build the engine in order to take full advantage of those disco potatoes.

**AMC** · 03-31-2009 07:53 PM

yes iknow what to use on one of my spare blocks!
this is awsome

**s2the4** · 03-31-2009 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Ragno

Thats if you run higher psi on them, no? Could you not run them a little more conservatively for 450-500 and get the reliability of dual ball bearing turbos.

and a little bit of modern turbo technology, instead of the prehistoric ko4..

ya i would really only feel comfortable running it more conservatively. I know that there is a guy that has an autospeed rs6 turbo-d S4 and he got away with only doing rods. I don't know to what other extents he went on the build but I heard it wasn't much and got 500whp on it. How reliable is it not too sure.

**Boris** · 03-31-2009 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by AMC

yes iknow what to use on one of my spare blocks!
this is awsome

it really is..shoot, screw rs6's this has got be at least as good as rs6's even on the log mani

**AMC** · 03-31-2009 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Boris

it really is..shoot, screw rs6's this has got be at least as good as rs6's even on the log mani

haha right no more journal bearings and the price is just right man, dude these will do alott better than rs6;s all u need is rods and set the boost up

**laxman851** · 03-31-2009 08:32 PM

I love life... and i'll love it more when I have more money saved up and get to drop these K04's

**A4 Meets 27t** · 03-31-2009 08:37 PM

I remember like 3 years ago they were testing these, it hopefully about time they did it right I hope.

**///M3 TO S4** · 03-31-2009 08:38 PM

I think this is the best news EVER for the B5 S4 community....They are going to sell those turbo's like hot-cakes. I know i'm buying them THIS SUMMER

Boris: + rep for you for finding this!

**kodycobra** · 03-31-2009 08:40 PM

I'll be buying them this week as soon as I can get the fueling/tuning, as far as what all I need, and who to go to figured out.

**bl0wn3ur0** · 03-31-2009 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Ragno

What makes them not "real" besides the custom turbine housing? How new are these turbos to the market? No one has tried them before?

i wasnt saying they arent real, i was saying that the eliminator turbos make the same amount of power as the regular garret gt28rs(on 1.8t) so ithey should do the same for the 2.7t

**Stone825** · 03-31-2009 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by ///M3 TO S4

I think this is the best news EVER for the B5 S4 community....They are going to sell those turbo's like hot-cakes. I know i'm buying them THIS SUMMER

Boris: + rep for you for finding this!

Hey hey... don't forget about the few Bi-Turbo A6 owners

. We just have a chubby version of your car.

**Ragno** · 03-31-2009 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by ///M3 TO S4

I think this is the best news EVER for the B5 S4 community....They are going to sell those turbo's like hot-cakes. I know i'm buying them THIS SUMMER

Boris: + rep for you for finding this!

Maybe my need of turbos is just in time

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