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    Veteran Member Four Rings mrpeterparker's Avatar
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    K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

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    ok, so things are finally starting to shape up around here =)

    some new logs over lunch today...

    Ambient Temp : +10 F

    The goods:
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    I love the 150% injector duty cycle, other than that not bad, my problem with my tune may stem from an elevation of near 4000ft
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    wow what software do you have thats sophistocated to do those graphs

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    Veteran Member Four Rings mrpeterparker's Avatar
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    software = coding skills of jjprice + microsoft excel.. lol
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    Sooo...
    What can I take away from all these graphs?

    I'm guessing the injectors going past 100% is not a good idea.
    Anything else?
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    Quote Originally Posted by mrpeterparker View Post
    ok, so things are finally starting to shape up around here =)
    lol. other then this, looks good.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings mrpeterparker's Avatar
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    yeah, but the only way to fix that is to do fueling.. which i'm not ready for
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    did you buy this off the classifieds recently? the giac 3- and fpr i mean

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    Veteran Member Four Rings mrpeterparker's Avatar
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    buy what exactly? the k04's came from achtuning....
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    sorry the giac 3- and fpr i forgot to add that, edited it and you got there before i had finished i guess.

    im only asking because it was in the forums so yeah. im glad you posted these logs.
    how does it feel compared to before?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings mrpeterparker's Avatar
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    of the forums = yes //

    the car is much faster... it runs like it "Should" for a 3-

    did you see my other thread about stg2+ software on K04's?
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    no i did not. but i started teh k04 under warranty thread and had a lot of questions abotu it but have no idea what it would pull like to know if its worth it ya know?

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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    Hope my injectors arent at 150% too. I'm also on giac 3-
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    Quote Originally Posted by mrpeterparker View Post
    yeah, but the only way to fix that is to do fueling.. which i'm not ready for
    you could turn down the boost with lemi. less air = less fuel = less load on injectors.... but that's no fun. lol Go enjoy your turbos.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings mrpeterparker's Avatar
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    ^ giac locks out the adaptation channels on stg3-
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    Could you just add bigger injectors so the stockers aren't working so hard or would it not run right? I'm doing the exact same thing now. My Ko4's will be here tomorrow and I am on stage 1 software right now but am debating on stage 3-.
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    fuel injectors and a MAF are the main components in fueling kits.
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    unless you have the hitachi? correct?

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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    stage 3- requires you to have hitachi
    B5 S4 - PJK04's Vast E85 Tuned
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    Quote Originally Posted by VR4-S4 View Post
    stage 3- requires you to have hitachi
    I have one that I had bought off of here when I had planned to go stage 3-, but now I've changed my mind. So if anyone wants one let me know as I don't need it amymore.

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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    anyone else running this setup since the time i posted? and took some logs?
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    Are you logging with vag-com?
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    no.. we logged with ECUx i think.. or APR's program..
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    im running almost the same setup, how ever i believe your car is running healthier, i have yet to get on a dyno or VAG graph the car. but im spiking 18 hold at 12. IMO something maybe wrong with my FPR. try to get on a dyno and see actual whp #s its truely the only thing to let us know between truth and a butt dyno. my car felt like it was a REALLY aggresive tune from GIAC. but no stage 3
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    since this log i've added ER intercoolers.. and will add an Aquamist W/M kit...

    i'll be dyno'in in april.. =)
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    Hmm...

    I checked the timing retard (banks 23-25 or something like that right?) and I'm not showing any retard, so I guess I'm not running lean right?

    What banks are the injector duty cycles?

    I'm running K04's on stock EVERYTHING. (except for piggies)
    00 B5 S4 - K04, Stern Soft MM, Stern Snub, DTS, Neuspeed Rear Sway, Oinkies, GIAC stg 2 XR, Vogtland GT, SSAC copy. Soo... Stg 2.31456?
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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    Quote Originally Posted by wdbdy2000s4 View Post
    lol. other then this, looks good.
    playing with fire.
    op; take some logs when its 85 deg F or hotter, when those iats get up into the 30*C ranges... id like to see how that timing pull is then.
    *edit, btw what were your IAT's like on these logs?
    00110100011100100110100101101110011001110111001100 001101000010100000110100001010

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    Re: K04's on stock fueling /w Stg3- Giac + 5.0bar FPR

    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdStrike View Post
    playing with fire.
    op; take some logs when its 85 deg F or hotter, when those iats get up into the 30*C ranges... id like to see how that timing pull is then.
    *edit, btw what were your IAT's like on these logs?

    I live in MN so it'll be a bit until then... although we hit 65 degrees today!


    whooot!

    I didn't post the IATS originally, because I thought it was pointless with the ambient temp being so low... but .. as you wish

    this log is PRE - ER intercooler installation... i.e stock IC's

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