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    AWD Swap almost DONE

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    Well today i installed the whole rear of a quattro B6 A4 into my 2004 audi A4 front trak. Gas tank fit perfectly, all the straps fit, stock speed sensors fit, stock e-brake cables fit. I had to extend the fuel pump harness to go under the seat as the FWD fuel pump is in the trunk. So all i did was fallow the harness and re-ran the harness to go under the seat. No cutting at all... Thats basically it... I found out the quattro shocks are the same as the FWD sport, only difference is the springs at one more dot im guessing a little stiffer cause of the weight. anyways heres the pics.

    Quattro gas tank


    quattro rear end



    Difference between the gas tanks


    FWD rear end


    FWD rear end removed


    Gas thank and rear removed


    installing quattro rear


    quattro installed



    quattro fuel pump


    On the alignment rack, everything went smooth


    Pictures not that great, took them with my phone.
    MK4 GTi 1.8T converted to AWD
    New 1/8th mile 7.36@102mph-27psi 93 octane, no meth
    New build times 23psi pump 11.9@126mph-96mph in the 1/8th
    04' A4 1.8t frontrak converted to quattro, was RWD for a lil now its quattro finally
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by O2VW1.8T View Post
    Well today i installed the whole rear of a quattro B6 A4 into my 2004 audi A4 front trak. Gas tank fit perfectly, all the straps fit, stock speed sensors fit, stock e-brake cables fit. I had to extend the fuel pump harness to go under the seat as the FWD fuel pump is in the trunk. So all i did was fallow the harness and re-ran the harness to go under the seat. No cutting at all... Thats basically it... I found out the quattro shocks are the same as the FWD sport, only difference is the springs at one more dot im guessing a little stiffer cause of the weight. anyways heres the pics.

    Quattro gas tank


    quattro rear end



    Difference between the gas tanks


    FWD rear end


    FWD rear end removed


    Gas thank and rear removed


    installing quattro rear


    quattro installed



    quattro fuel pump


    On the alignment rack, everything went smooth


    Pictures not that great, took them with my phone.

    you just gave me hope, how much did that set you back???
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    wow... pretty impressive .... might be the first time done on a b6.
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Where did you obtain your parts from?

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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    was quoting the hole first post really necessary dude

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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by BEESIX View Post
    you just gave me hope, how much did that set you back???
    Depending where you buy. I paid 550 for the whole rear end, 125 for gas tank, 125 for the fuel pump cause the junk yard broke the fitting on it.. I still need the trans and driveshaft and im done. But im going to try something with the stock trans..
    Got this stuff from the junk yard
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Just wait until he gets to the transmission



    Great job!
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by dougyfresh View Post
    Just wait until he gets to the transmission



    Great job!
    yea.. money and time.
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    nice work
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by dougyfresh View Post
    Just wait until he gets to the transmission



    Great job!
    guess who helped with that? lol
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by AudiA4_20T View Post
    guess who helped with that? lol
    Exactly. Did the parts make it down to him?
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by dougyfresh View Post
    Exactly. Did the parts make it down to him?
    yes sir, going to try tomorrow and see if it works Gotta say clint is the man, he's been helping me with the parts
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    New build times 23psi pump 11.9@126mph-96mph in the 1/8th
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by O2VW1.8T View Post
    yes sir, going to try tomorrow and see if it works Gotta say clint is the man, he's been helping me with the parts
    I like helping people who take risks and try things, thats the only way things get done... Anyway Ill have that extra trans for you tomorrow
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Very nice

    Glad you ran into no problems with different floor pans
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Oh jesus...
    Looking good Peter!
    quite a challenge you took on!

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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    I am quite impressed.....you Sir have bigger balls than me!
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    nice its coming along good...this is a stick right? not sure i think you said it was your wifes car for now till she gets a new one
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    i see x
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by B6driver View Post
    i see x
    Must be your IP...

    Yes its 5 speed.
    MK4 GTi 1.8T converted to AWD
    New 1/8th mile 7.36@102mph-27psi 93 octane, no meth
    New build times 23psi pump 11.9@126mph-96mph in the 1/8th
    04' A4 1.8t frontrak converted to quattro, was RWD for a lil now its quattro finally
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    Any idea how much the whole rear subframe weighs?
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by absolutegtr View Post
    Any idea how much the whole rear subframe weighs?
    I would say maybe 2 times as heavy as the FWD one. I can lift the FWD one with 1 hand, its probably 80lbs. I would say close to 200 maybe less.
    MK4 GTi 1.8T converted to AWD
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    New build times 23psi pump 11.9@126mph-96mph in the 1/8th
    04' A4 1.8t frontrak converted to quattro, was RWD for a lil now its quattro finally
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Excellent - glad its coming together for u hope all the sensors go into the ECU just fine u might need to do a lot of reprogramming... wonder how that part will work???
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by A4SoftWalker View Post
    Excellent - glad its coming together for u hope all the sensors go into the ECU just fine u might need to do a lot of reprogramming... wonder how that part will work???
    It all works, the only sensors are the rear speed sensors on the axles. ESP still works.
    MK4 GTi 1.8T converted to AWD
    New 1/8th mile 7.36@102mph-27psi 93 octane, no meth
    New build times 23psi pump 11.9@126mph-96mph in the 1/8th
    04' A4 1.8t frontrak converted to quattro, was RWD for a lil now its quattro finally
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    I almost gave up on this possibility, although I had still been saving just in case I came across the parts to give it a shot. THANK YOU for proving it is possible!!!
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    youve started a trend peter, this is the new cool thing to do lol, anyway Im headed to the junkyard in a few for the extra trans
    - Clint

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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Looks good Peter

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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by A4SoftWalker View Post
    Excellent - glad its coming together for u hope all the sensors go into the ECU just fine u might need to do a lot of reprogramming... wonder how that part will work???
    What sensors? What ECU? Its Quattro. Its mechanical.

    You just have the rear speed sensors for ESP and ABS as well as the roll control sensors (on the anti-roll bar).
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Ok well i tried to install the back half of the quattro trans and it wont work. I will need a trans

    quatto rear tail section, you can see the splines to the center diff


    FWD section




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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    wow, nice job! to bad the trans conversion didn't work
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by BEESIX View Post
    you just gave me hope, how much did that set you back???


    Is it necessary to repost all his pictures?

    He said he got the stuff from a junkyard
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    awesome job man! only 1 question looking at the tranny tail section. do you by any chance have a side by side cut sheet to the tail sections of the tranny.. reason im asking is could there only be a spline connection or is that a differnce in the tranny. maybe you can locate the diffence without having to completely replace or swap them. i couldnt find anything but maybe someone has a tranny rebuild manual.
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by walkerkd View Post
    awesome job man! only 1 question looking at the tranny tail section. do you by any chance have a side by side cut sheet to the tail sections of the tranny.. reason im asking is could there only be a spline connection or is that a differnce in the tranny. maybe you can locate the diffence without having to completely replace or swap them. i couldnt find anything but maybe someone has a tranny rebuild manual.
    I said that to him, but he said theres no way
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by O2VW1.8T View Post
    Ok well i tried to install the back half of the quattro trans and it wont work. I will need a trans
    Does Clint have a trans coming to you?
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Hmmm this is giving me ideas..... I wonder if one can do this in a B7 A4? Is the body the same in regards to a B7 AWD body to a B7 FWD body Is the Q system the same? Mechanical?

    I know this is the B6 A4 forum but i just had to ask. Sorry for the brief thread jack.

    Please Pm me to keep it out of the OP's thread or if he wishes to keep it as more info for others like me or him if he wants to swap a B7 A4 as well.....


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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by viziers View Post
    Hmmm this is giving me ideas..... I wonder if one can do this in a B7 A4? Is the body the same in regards to a B7 AWD body to a B7 FWD body Is the Q system the same? Mechanical?

    I know this is the B6 A4 forum but i just had to ask. Sorry for the brief thread jack.

    Please Pm me to keep it out of the OP's thread or if he wishes to keep it as more info for others like me or him if he wants to swap a B7 A4 as well.....


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    I would say yes if you need help let me know
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by O2VW1.8T View Post
    I would say yes if you need help let me know

    I sure will. Thank you very much for the offer!

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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by Papachristou View Post
    Is it necessary to repost all his pictures?

    He said he got the stuff from a junkyard
    relax i know how to read maybe you should learn too, i asked HOW MUCH he payed not WHERE he got it from, and big whoop i made a mistake and quoted all the pics SORRY
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by BEESIX View Post
    relax i know how to read maybe you should learn too, i asked HOW MUCH he payed not WHERE he got it from, and big whoop i made a mistake and quoted all the pics SORRY
    Big whoop, wanna fight about it?

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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Supreme View Post
    Big whoop, wanna fight about it?
    lmaoo i was thinking about typing that, but not many people would know where that was from and would get serious bout it lol
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    Re: AWD Swap almost DONE

    Quote Originally Posted by walkerkd View Post
    awesome job man! only 1 question looking at the tranny tail section. do you by any chance have a side by side cut sheet to the tail sections of the tranny.. reason im asking is could there only be a spline connection or is that a differnce in the tranny. maybe you can locate the diffence without having to completely replace or swap them. i couldnt find anything but maybe someone has a tranny rebuild manual.
    I can go through the individual parts tonight, most likely the only difference is the main shaft, however I would venture to say that buying one and installing it will cost more than a junkyard tranny.

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