Biggest FMIC Core W/O Bumper Support

[A4ringedONE8T]

What is the biggest FMIC core that anyone has fit behind an S-Line front bumper (or that anyone thinks will fit)? I don't care about the bumper support, it will not be in the car. Been trying to look over install threads for different pictures but havent found anything too helpful. All the "kits" use tiny cores (other than the AWE which is ugly). I believe the B7 bumper is flatter on the front than the B6 and doesnt round in on the corners so should be able to fit a wider core.

Hoping to fit a Precision 750 core, 31.5" x 10.3" x 3.5" overall dimensions

Going for the same fitment as on my B6, the absolute biggest that will fit



Opinions and suggestions please!

Thanks, Shawn

[06B7audiA4]

From my understanding, unless your going custom...theres only 1 fmic on the market for the B7 that DOESNT use the support in the front...

Evolution Racewerks FMIC, that FMIC doesnt use the support

Goodluck, I hope you dont hit anything, I hit a deer this past month and luckily my FMIC survived completely without a scratch ONLY cause I had that support. Is it really worth losing your warranty and front end over a support. Im guesssing you looked at all the fmic out there and still are satisfied with fitment..They are good for well over 350hp?

[A4ringedONE8T]

From my understanding, unless your going custom...theres only 1 fmic on the market for the B7 that DOESNT use the support in the front...

Evolution Racewerks FMIC, that FMIC doesnt use the support

Goodluck, I hope you dont hit anything, I hit a deer this past month and luckily my FMIC survived completely without a scratch ONLY cause I had that support. Is it really worth losing your warranty and front end over a support. Im guesssing you looked at all the fmic out there and still are satisfied with fitment..They are good for well over 350hp?

I dont want or intend to use a kit, everything will be fabbed at my shop. When the setup is complete, it should be well over 350hp, if not close to double that on race gas and hi boost (of course at the crank). 400awhp + on pump gas and 550awhp on race gas is my goal.

I havent had a bumper support in my B6 for over 3 years, Im not worried about it whatsoever but thanks for looking out!

[06B7audiA4]

Yea, i gotcha...well overall I truthfully havent read once of anyone doing a custom fmic well itleast a huge fmic on a b7 yet, no need cause even with the stage 3 apr kit and others, the core are well enough...

Do you plan to go over 500hp, lol?

[A4ringedONE8T]

Yea, i gotcha...well overall I truthfully havent read once of anyone doing a custom fmic well itleast a huge fmic on a b7 yet, no need cause even with the stage 3 apr kit and others, the core are well enough...

Do you plan to go over 500hp, lol?

400-450awhp on pump gas and 550awhp on race gas are my plans. You'll be seeing alot of me in the near future. Click the link in my sig for my B6, that should give you an idea of what to expect from the B7

[06B7audiA4]

400-450awhp on pump gas and 550awhp on race gas are my plans. You'll be seeing alot of me in the near future. Click the link in my sig for my B6, that should give you an idea of what to expect from the B7

WELL u will surely be the first to push those number if it happens..
Guessing your piece'n ur own kit together, custom tune and all?

[dougyfresh]

I think the pres 750 will fit.

[A4ringedONE8T]

I think the pres 750 will fit.

Thanks Doug, guess I should have posted this in the B6 section

[A4ringedONE8T]

WELL u will surely be the first to push those number if it happens..
Guessing your piece'n ur own kit together, custom tune and all?

Its a race between me and someone else I know to the 400's

The setup will be custom at first, to be released as a kit shortly after it is tuned and we have results. We have done two Mk5 2.0FSI GTI's with ATP 3071R setups and REVO 30R software and both are in the 400's on the ground. Should have no problem getting to the 400's with the A4

[dougyfresh]

Thanks Doug, guess I should have posted this in the B6 section

Not really.

Give it some time but the B7 guys will catch up soon enough.







Yeah, the FSI head technology will get you to 400awhp much easier than the B6 A4 1.8T.

[Audi Skate Snow]

Yeah, the FSI head technology will get you to 400awhp much easier than the B6 A4 1.8T.

+1000

[04Ultrasprt]

good luck with the build and keep us posted on here, I'm very curious to see where you go with this. Even though the AWE doesnt meet the looks youre going for, would it work for your application?

[Vorsprung]

Whos making the kit fifteen52? and jeez a 35R thats the biggest on the B7 yet, as far as I know of.

Im excited that there are finally some people pushing for big power on the B7.

[A4ringedONE8T]

Whos making the kit fifteen52? and jeez a 35R thats the biggest on the B7 yet, as far as I know of.

Im excited that there are finally some people pushing for big power on the B7.

A 4088R is still on the table as well, the 35R is a more sensible choice though And yes I am one of the owners of Fifteen52, I apologize for not knowing much of the B7 crew, have we met or talked before?

I'm Shawn BTW

[A4ringedONE8T]

good luck with the build and keep us posted on here, I'm very curious to see where you go with this. Even though the AWE doesnt meet the looks youre going for, would it work for your application?

Not quite what I'm looking for, plus I want to do our own piping configuration

[vinny.dtw]

Good luck Shawn, its good that you are staying in the Audi fam, and taking it to new levels.

[audidrver]

I thought you were going to have 2 turbos?

[A4ringedONE8T]

I thought you were going to have 2 turbos?

I never said two turbo's, I said two wastegate's (AKA TS)

[audidrver]

twin scroll . I follow all bat threads and you said maybe two turbos. Good luck with tour build. What high press pump do you plan on using to get to those numbers?

[A4ringedONE8T]

twin scroll . I follow all bat threads and you said maybe two turbos. Good luck with tour build. What high press pump do you plan on using to get to those numbers?

The best available, APR. We have tried the KMD upgrades twice with bad results on fitment and performance on two different 3071R Mk5's. Since then we have opted for the APR pump and never had any fueling issues. Both USP's MK5 APR GTI and REVO's MK5 GTI test cars have both made 500whp + with APR's pump and RS4 injectors IIRC the USP car has recently made it into the 600's on the ground w/ a 3076R and has yet to hit a fueling wall.

[Hyphy]

Not really.



Yeah, the FSI head technology will get you to 400awhp much easier than the B6 A4 1.8T.

x2

[IceMole]

So glad you're over here, finally someone who knows what they're talking about and will make headway with the B7. What are your bottom end plans? Do you think anything more then rods are needed? I only ask since I want to go down this path myself.

[06B7audiA4]

So glad you're over here, finally someone who knows what they're talking about and will make headway with the B7. What are your bottom end plans? Do you think anything more then rods are needed? I only ask since I want to go down this path myself.

I think there are plenty of other people who know what they are talking about.

Also the mk5 GTI is pushing that power but still FWD...ill be impressed when I see 500+ in a B7 within the next few months.

If your talking a yr from now, yes clearly possible...but lets see some results by summer.

[A4ringedONE8T]

So glad you're over here, finally someone who knows what they're talking about and will make headway with the B7. What are your bottom end plans? Do you think anything more then rods are needed? I only ask since I want to go down this path myself.

Since I started the BAT quest in my B6 I always said less was more regarding built motors. I entrusted IE with the "drop in" rod path on the 1.8T and I will do so again with the 2.0. We do quite a bit of business with Pete and IE and they are a pleasure to deal with and there products are top notch for the price! With the economy nowadays, a quality product with an affordable price is just whats needed. Once the car is fine tuned, we hope to offer a complete hardware kit w/ REVO software as well as IE drop in rods and all OEM parts needed to rebuild from top to bottom inorder to support 400awhp+ depending on turbo size (3071R, 3076R, or 35R) for the longitudinal B7. The FSI motor has already done 500whp+ in the MK5 GTI so its just a matter of doing it in the A4, no "maybe its possible" any longer.

[A4ringedONE8T]

I think there are plenty of other people who know what they are talking about.

Also the mk5 GTI is pushing that power but still FWD...ill be impressed when I see 500+ in a B7 within the next few months.

If your talking a yr from now, yes clearly possible...but lets see some results by summer.

That 500whp was acheived with a GT3071R as well. Remove an additional 10% for the AWD over the FWD and it leaves you with 450awhp. Add a turbo that flows 30-40% more and can support 35-40psi of boost and well, you get the point

[dougyfresh]

And the sheep come.....

[CO AVANT]

shawn's got big plans, big plans...

[dougyfresh]

Its a race between me and someone else I know to the 400's

Haha. I just saw this.

You know its on!




Do you even have a vehicle [in your possession] yet?? Our car is going under the knife in a few weeks.

[GhostSquadGarage]

The original core I built was 29"x11"x3" but required removal of the support.
The cooling and flow was madman but didn't see a real market for it to continue on.
Hit me up I'll put you in contact with who I sold the design to.

[Slo.Mo.Shun.]

The USP GTI is not running anymore, something happened ;).

Revo does not want to tune the 76r on because it spools about 800 rpm later than the 71r, plus there is not really a fueling and intake manifold solution for big power.

[Slo.Mo.Shun.]

The original core I built was 29"x11"x3" but required removal of the support.
The cooling and flow was madman but didn't see a real market for it to continue on.
Hit me up I'll put you in contact with who I sold the design to.

PS. I would buy it.

[A4ringedONE8T]

The USP GTI is not running anymore, something happened ;).

Revo does not want to tune the 76r on because it spools about 800 rpm later than the 71r, plus there is not really a fueling and intake manifold solution for big power.

The latest I saw come out of that car was over 600whp am I correct? 76R spools 800rpm later than a 71R?? mwwwaahhhhhahahahaha LMAO!!!!!! Ive had both turbo's on my 1.8T, without changing anything else except the turbo, boost was IDENTICAL!! Same boost at the same RPM, except the 76R has a very strong tq spike and keeps ramping up hard up till redline where the 71R was fairly linear up top.

[GhostSquadGarage]

4088 for life !

[A4ringedONE8T]

The original core I built was 29"x11"x3" but required removal of the support.
The cooling and flow was madman but didn't see a real market for it to continue on.
Hit me up I'll put you in contact with who I sold the design to.

Better than anything else Ive seen for the platform but still not what Im looking for (nor do I want someone elses "kit" which wont mate up to the location of our turbo). And let me guess, CXRacing is selling it now? (img tag give away if thats correct )

Do you know the overall width of that core at the connections?

[A4ringedONE8T]

4088 for life !

Don't think I have the balls to try it, plus 35 to 40 is the common changeover for T3 to T4 flange. I would hate to have a manifold made in T4 and have that turbo be way too big (and I dont want to use a T3 to T4 adaptor)

[GhostSquadGarage]

Better than anything else Ive seen for the platform but still not what Im looking for (nor do I want someone elses "kit" which wont mate up to the location of our turbo). And let me guess, CXRacing is selling it now? (img tag give away if thats correct )

Do you know the overall width of that core at the connections?

3" and yes CX now sells it. I can put you in touch with the owner if you want to discuss more about it. I'm unsure if they've revised or changed anything to it since I originally developed it.
All you would really need to mate to the new turbo is the passenger 90deg pipe. Make your own to mount up. Otherwise like I stated in another thread custom is pretty much the only way people go when they're trying to hit max hp #'s on a particular car.
Here it is installed:

Don't think I have the balls to try it, plus 35 to 40 is the common changeover for T3 to T4 flange. I would hate to have a manifold made in T4 and have that turbo be way too big (and I dont want to use a T3 to T4 adaptor)

I was joking about it. It's my fav of the baby turbos, though. The pull is just out of control for the amount of HP it produces.

[ray-ray]

A 4088R is still on the table as well, the 35R is a more sensible choice though And yes I am one of the owners of Fifteen52, I apologize for not knowing much of the B7 crew, have we met or talked before?

I'm Shawn BTW

what's up shawn. glad to hear you are getting a b7. i remember you from the b6 forums back when i had my b6.

keep us updated as to what you do onto your car and good luck

[IceMole]

And the sheep come.....

If that was directed at me, I'm just looking for the easiest way to put a GT30 on my car...and yes I've contacted ASP.

[Vorsprung]

A 4088R is still on the table as well, the 35R is a more sensible choice though And yes I am one of the owners of Fifteen52, I apologize for not knowing much of the B7 crew, have we met or talked before?

I'm Shawn BTW

No, but I've seen threads about your B6 and your Eurotuner feature. Im a big fan of the car.

And I've heard some good stuff about Fifteen52 lately, I didn't realize you were an owner tho, just saw the sticker on your old intercooler.

And welcome to the B7 family! Really looking forward to see what you guys can do.

Oh and I'm Ian.

[dougyfresh]

If that was directed at me, I'm just looking for the easiest way to put a GT30 on my car...and yes I've contacted ASP.

No, it was in general about the B7 A4 forum here. I get the impression that the B7 owners are not willing to go much outside what is currently offered for them.. Not willing to push limits. However, Shawn showed up and now all of a sudden everyone is interested. They could have easily contacted his business (or someone else's) to start putting together something to make power on their vehicles. However, the masses would rather wait until another business foots the bill to prototype everything. Perhaps I am biased? I don't know. IT doesn't really matter anymore since we've got two (or three?) cars that I am aware of that are really going to push some limits in the B7 A4 chassis. This is going to be a fun year for you guys. I am excited. I hope you are too.

I know you, in particular, have been researching a good 'kit' or good form of making power for your vehicle. You'll make the right decision when it is time.

I am just a customer of ASP like anyone else. Nothing more, nothing less. I chose to work with them for my tuning and pushed them [pretty hard] until I got results that I was satisfied with. I am still tweaking things. Think I might have just found another 50awhp this past weekend (without increasing octane in my fuel or adding meth). Need to get back to ASP for some software tweaks to further optimize and prove my calculations.