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    Veteran Member Three Rings RusS4's Avatar
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    Need some help with a gauge cluster swap from a 2001.5 to a 2000 using vag com. Does the licensed program need to be bought or can it be done with the free software. The 2001.5 has more mileage so the mileage need to be changed. Where can I get the software. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings CONTROL ONE's Avatar
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    You can't change mileage via VC. I think you can make a 1 time adjustment upwards on new clusters but that's it.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings RusS4's Avatar
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    so gauges cant be swapped then? and the mileage be corrected?
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    from what i know i dont think you could put in a 2001 cluster in a 2000 ive tried and i have a vag to try to recode it..

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    Veteran Member Three Rings RusS4's Avatar
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    Quote Originally Posted by RusS4 View Post
    so gauges cant be swapped then? and the mileage be corrected?
    yes but you will have to have the mileage etc adapted at the dealer with the cluster. they use the scantool to adjust the mileage
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    so being that they have already been swapped i can just plug the new cluster into my car and drive up to the stealership and they can swap everything?
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    Veteran Member Three Rings RusS4's Avatar
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    bump??
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    Quote Originally Posted by AielloS4 View Post
    yes but you will have to have the mileage etc adapted at the dealer with the cluster. they use the scantool to adjust the mileage
    I'm pretty sure the only time the cluster can be re-programed for milage is before the cluster reads 5 miles, after that it burns in.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings RusS4's Avatar
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    well it hasent even been plugged in yet. i guess ill have to get it towed to the dealer then reprogramed?
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    no defiantly not before 5 miles. There are thousands of people out there that can turn back the mileage/ or adjust the mileage or whatever you need. Just gotta find them.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings RusS4's Avatar
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    how can it be done?
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    I've read some where that there's an eprom behind the cluster that stores the mileage. You just remove it from your old cluster and plug in to your new. Anyone have any pictures of the rear of the cluster to confirm this?
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    Veteran Member Three Rings RusS4's Avatar
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    i didnt see anything begind the cluster other than a couple stickers with numbers on them so i peeled the stickers off my old cluster before i swapped them.
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    take apart the back of the cluster so that you can actually see the needles. Then see and confirm it.

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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    theres a write up on audiworld somewhere. I remember seeing it a while back. Also i believe marc knows somewhat how to xfer the mileage over but i may be wrong. try pming him.

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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    the problem is that i dont have my old cluster anymore.
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    bump?
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    sounds like you're kinda screwed then...

    i'm doubting a dealer will do that for you. maybe if you pay a tech on the side, but even then i'm sure there are some pretty big reprecussions for getting caught doing that.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings RusS4's Avatar
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    Any audi techs out there that might be able to help me out? I havent hooked up the new gauge yet. Is there any way that i might be able to ship it to you?
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    why are you so worried about the mileage? just use the cluster. who cares? the recode procedure using vag com is easy.
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    i mean id like the gauge i swapped in there to read the correct mileage if possible. the guy i swapped it with's car had a little over 20,000 miles on it
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    If you really want it to read correctly, you can swap the mileage eprom from the back of your old cluster to the new one. It's a solder job. I have no idea which one it is and take no responsibilty for the end result.

    EDIT: apparently it's the one circled in white.

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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    you positive that that is the correct one? ill try to get my old gauge back but i dunno yet.
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    Quote Originally Posted by RusS4 View Post
    you positive that that is the correct one? ill try to get my old gauge back but i dunno yet.
    I have no idea, that's just what I've heard..that's why I put in my little disclaimer in my post

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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    Does anyone have a part number or know a price on the LCD if it even can be replaced? If that part can just be replaced I'd settle for that. Right now mine is really looking like crap.
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    Quote Originally Posted by blmlozz View Post
    I'm pretty sure the only time the cluster can be re-programed for milage is before the cluster reads 5 miles, after that it burns in.
    A new uncoded cluster can have the mileage rest to any greater value once until the odo reads 100 kilometers.

    There is no approved dealer tools that can adjust an already mileage coded cluster, but there are several tools that you can use to redo the mileage with varying success. There is a VAGTACHO, VAG commander etc, and most are copies that have come out of China.

    The 2001 cluster is a different part number than a 2000, and I don't think you can successfully swap them.

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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    I don't think there is a replacement LCD available, yet many cluster repair shops claim to be able to fix that flaw.

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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    Know of any off hand? Links are helpful.
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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    Marc knows. IM him curiousyellow

    He's a helpful chap.

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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    yes maguiver replaces the lcd's. there is a sperate thread a few threads down from this one.

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    Re: gauge cluster swap

    As i stated above. i have a 2000 s and i brought a 2001 cluster hooked it up and not everything works... Also the oil indicators stays on and the RMP dont work. I have a vag com and ive tried reprogram it and recode it and no luck but i might be wrong..

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