rns software complaint

[jimmya4]

i have looked all over for a place to download the navi software (i guess 2007 north america is the hot ticket) but cant find a place that has any seeds. can anyone tell me where they got theirs? or if anyone is around in socal that knows how to burn one. before you tell me its stealing im going to have to say i have a 40 thousand dollar (when new) car with a 2 grand upgrade navigation that shouldn't even use a disk for navi in the first place.... bought the car used and didnt have a nav disk. thanks for any help

[Quattro]

i dont encourage piracy, but I am sure if you google "Audi nav disk 2008" you can find some torrents, links, etc to dl it.

I am not trying to be a douche, but I dont think we are allowed to post links download stuff.

[barkerd427]

I looked forever to include going to www.navplus.us and I couldn't find anything but the software upgrade. I have really been looking since I got the car, 2 years ago. I finally just bought it a couple months ago.

[bcramer]

You can get it here www.navteq.com

[jimmya4]

i understand how people are against it, but then i would ask you the question of why these cars use a disk at all.... why cant you just go to an audi dealer i already have the 2500 dollar system in my car that means it should work.... i promise you i will never pay 200 dollars for a disk when i can buy a completely new garmin or what ever for the same price. if you have the audi navigation... it should work if not they should make it work for you and if you lose your disk you should be able to go to the dealer and pay the price of a blank dvd disk which is about a 200th of the price of what they ask for.

[swoardrider]

look on ebay. thats what I did

[jimmya4]

look on ebay. thats what I did

thats what im going to do but they are still like a hundred bucks if its the newer year. it just pisses me off

[bcramer]

i understand how people are against it, but then i would ask you the question of why these cars use a disk at all.... why cant you just go to an audi dealer i already have the 2500 dollar system in my car that means it should work.... i promise you i will never pay 200 dollars for a disk when i can buy a completely new garmin or what ever for the same price. if you have the audi navigation... it should work if not they should make it work for you and if you lose your disk you should be able to go to the dealer and pay the price of a blank dvd disk which is about a 200th of the price of what they ask for.

If Audi provided all the map data then yes. However, they don't. Navteq provides all the map data which means they have the right to charge for it. How else would Navteq stay in business? Also, would you rather have Audi allocate millions of dollars in creating that map that could have gone towards R&D for our cars?

Also, your logic is flawed when you state how much it costs for the car and Nav. system. If it costs all this money, then 200 bones should be nothing to you.

/soap box.

Good luck.

[RedS-line]

Even people that buy lambos dont like paying more for something than they feel they should. The fact is that 200 for a disk is asking too much simply because technology has moved at a pace where brand new portable gps units now start at 100 bucks. The price of the disk should drop accordingly imo.

[bcramer]

Even people that buy lambos dont like paying more for something than they feel they should. The fact is that 200 for a disk is asking too much simply because technology has moved at a pace where brand new portable gps units now start at 100 bucks. The price of the disk should drop accordingly imo.

Except you don't get free updates with all of those units. More often than not you need to buy the update or buy an extra peripheral to get the update.

[barkerd427]

It would be worth the cost if the US disk was as good as the European disk. I have used both and there wasn't a single street that I couldn't get the nav to recognize in Europe. But here I live on a road that would have definitely been in the nav over there. My road shows up on the nav, but it will not allow the routing software to use it. It just doesn't make sense. I can even use the road as the destination, but the nav directions cut off at the highway and says the destination is as indicated. The portable navs that my friends have don't seem to have this problem and they don't have to pay $200 for an update. The price is just highly inflated for what you get. If I had known about all this I wouldn't have gotten the nav.

[jimmya4]

If Audi provided all the map data then yes. However, they don't. Navteq provides all the map data which means they have the right to charge for it. How else would Navteq stay in business? Also, would you rather have Audi allocate millions of dollars in creating that map that could have gone towards R&D for our cars?

Also, your logic is flawed when you state how much it costs for the car and Nav. system. If it costs all this money, then 200 bones should be nothing to you.

/soap box.

Good luck.

sorry i dont agree at all. when the car is bought new the gps should have the mapping built in (it is a computer....) and if there is an update you should either be able to manually upload it or take it to the dealer. just like you would if you have a disk. the mapping company would get there money the same way basically they do now by selling it with every individual car bought... if something is wrong with my mapping on my car i should get it replaced sense i have already bought the software once and it costs them no money to produce besides the money of a blank dvd disk.... im upset

[Blarg]

The disk would have been something to negotiate into your purchase. Yeah it stinks but I knew it was a disk based system when I bought it so I had no surprises or complaints.

[RedS-line]

Except you don't get free updates with all of those units. More often than not you need to buy the update or buy an extra peripheral to get the update.

the tomtom's come with one year of free updates via usb cable connected to the web fyi.

[bcramer]

the tomtom's come with one year of free updates via usb cable connected to the web fyi.

Exactly. It's not a lifetime of free updates. Also, they state one year of free updates...how many are there? I'd bet they're not even on a quarterly release schedule. Which means you most likely get 1 free update.

Woohoo!

[elwigglero]

sorry i dont agree at all. when the car is bought new the gps should have the mapping built in (it is a computer....) and if there is an update you should either be able to manually upload it or take it to the dealer. just like you would if you have a disk. the mapping company would get there money the same way basically they do now by selling it with every individual car bought... if something is wrong with my mapping on my car i should get it replaced sense i have already bought the software once and it costs them no money to produce besides the money of a blank dvd disk.... im upset

It's a dvd based nav system. Navteq structures their pricing for audi based on an ongoing revenue model. Would you rather pay substantially more up front for the nav system or buy updates when you feel you need them? I prefer the latter.

A lot of resources go into the R & D for these nav systems. The "cost" has nothing to do with the physical piece of plastic that the update is burned onto.

[jimmya4]

It's a dvd based nav system. Navteq structures their pricing for audi based on an ongoing revenue model. Would you rather pay substantially more up front for the nav system or buy updates when you feel you need them? I prefer the latter.

A lot of resources go into the R & D for these nav systems. The "cost" has nothing to do with the physical piece of plastic that the update is burned onto.

i never mentioned anything about not paying for releases. i have a very expensive navi system in my car and i cant use it without spending 200 dollars. i would be fine using the original update it came with... make a navigation that updates via usb or through the dealer dont start throwing cd's at us.

[cgmiller63]

I sent you a PM.

[Spiff69]

Wait - if you buy a Navteq disc, you get free updates for life?

[jimmya4]

Wait - if you buy a Navteq disc, you get free updates for life?

im pretty sure thats false. but no matter, my argument is shall something happen to my disc, i cant just go find a way to get my nav to work without dropping 200 dollars and from audi its 300... just have the base version installed on the car buy the updates as you want.

[Down3yDJdud3]

I found the image on one of my favorite torrent tracking sites. PM me if you want the link to the seed! I have not gotten a chance to burn the image to a DVD. Has anyone tried this? Is it simple as burning the ISO and popping the DVD into the slot?

[bcramer]

I found the image on one of my favorite torrent tracking sites. PM me if you want the link to the seed! I have not gotten a chance to burn the image to a DVD. Has anyone tried this? Is it simple as burning the ISO and popping the DVD into the slot?

For some yes. For others no.

[jimmya4]

i found some seeders and im downloading the 07 north america. Can anyone tell how they got the files onto a dvd and had it work in our cars?

[Down3yDJdud3]

i found some seeders and im downloading the 07 north america. Can anyone tell how they got the files onto a dvd and had it work in our cars?

I have un-rard the file and have the image on my hd, but I am fighting a brutal cold so I have really got nothing done. I should have more info in the next day or so. I also need to pick up some blank dvd's.

Let me know if you succeed.

[jimmya4]

how did you "un-rar" the files? i have about 40 percent completed and its been clost to 12 hours haha. hopefully it speeds up over night. im just not sure what to do after its finished downloading. i have some blank dvd's to use though

[swoardrider]

jimmya4,
check PM. problem solved.

[Blarg]

FYI, the nav discs are dual layer DVDs, not a normal DVD.

[urban96]

ive heard the newer navs are more sensitive and its hit/miss with burnt dvd's

[jimmya4]

FYI, the nav discs are dual layer DVDs, not a normal DVD.

all dual layer does is increase capacity. normal dvd's are 4.8gb while the nav software is 3.5 i have talked to several people putting them on blank dvd's no one mentioned a specific type other than dvd-r